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Weather permitting, this Friday I'm planning on riding with one of my kids to visit a hospital in northern Israel.
Once again, Trepp, a true gentleman. Well done sir. Ride safe and give them a smile for us all around the world. Here's hoping that the situation gets better sometime soon. It must.
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Kitty (and anyone else who's interested) Module 2 Direct Access TICK! This morning. Funny, I wasn't nervous about this at all, unlike the Module 1. Managed to do two corkers - first, I locked up the back wheel in a patch of diesel and did a nice rear wheel skid and also managed to make the rear let go on a roundabout (stepped sideways about 6 inches). The first got me a minor, as I had applied the brakes rather sharply to avoid entering a box junction where the exit wasn't clear (lack of forward planning) and the second wasn't for the roundabout issue but for running wide on one particular corner when I wasn't looking where I was going.

The good thing about it all was the examiner said that it was a breath of fresh air riding with someone experienced. Another point of note, is that we spent very little time doing slow stuff most of it was either dual carriageway town ring road plus roundabouts or NSL A/B road stuff. Nice to be able to sit a 60 and 70 mph during a test. Dead chuffed
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Well done, Doug!
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Kitty (and anyone else who's interested) Module 2 Direct Access TICK!

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Dead chuffed
So you should be - Well Done that man!

Hugs from both of us.
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Even though I don't know what Module 2 means I am betting it is challenging. Good for you.
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Well done Doug! Another member of the BBC (Big Boys Club)! Good to have you aboard!
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Oh Bravo Doug!
Chuffed to bits for you love
Now. What bike for you next then?
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Congratulations Doug, is it the geared test you're going through?
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Congratulations Doug, is it the geared test you're going through?
Yep Pepy. I sat an A2 test on my Vespa 125 in 2007 after riding it for ten months or so post CBT. Took no lessons and passed the A2 test with on minor fault. That became unrestricted in 2009, so I was able to ride any capacity as longs as there was no manual clutch involved.

Sat both Module 1 and Module 2 on a Yamaha XJ6N 600cc. Found Module 1 hard and failed the first time as I stupidly put a foot down on the U turn instead of letting the clutch out. On the second attempt, I had practised so much, my clutch control was much better and it was flawless. Today was much easier as it was just a normal(ish) ride.

Only downside was the expense.

Two days accelerated training on a 600cc £300
Module 1 twice £130
Module 2 £175
Hire of a 125cc for a week to practise from Scootech £120

TOTAL £725 ouch!!!!
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Ew, kosher.... what about those who don't want that?
I know you are saying that in jest. Yet there are fake bacon bits. They are not really bacon but taste like it. It's an American thing. They are and taste like bacon that just had plastic surgery. Not a bad choice. And come in little convenient pocket size packages. But that would be crashing the party.
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£725 = $1164.79 = 846.41EUR = ¥7097.41 = ₪4098.50 as of a few minutes ago. Never let it be said that getting licensed to ride in the UK is cheap...or easy. But if it results in better riders and less crashes then it worth it I guess.
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I took a Direct Access course back in October 2004. Back then all you needed was a CBT, Theory Test then a Practical Test.

Does passing M2 mean you have finished and now have the full A class bike licence or is there still more to do?
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Peppy it's the full unrestricted glitter and sparkles licence. With bells and a cherry on top. Nowt more for him to do.
I wanna do that
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Does passing M2 mean you have finished and now have the full A class bike licence or is there still more to do?
No I have a full A class licence now. I already had a full A class licence, BUT it had a 78 code next to it. That meant I could only ride automatics. There are a few of us Skoks who have exactly this type of licence... I never thought I would want to shift, but hey, things change.

So my history is CBT (2006), theory test (2007, inc Hazard perception), road pursuit test (2007) resulting in an A2 licence (so restricted to 400cc and 33bhp for two years). 2009, automatically derestricted to full A class licence. However, because my test was on an auto, both A2 and A had a 78 code.

I've just spent the last month removing that 78 code by doing the current Mod 1 and Mod 2 on a 600cc 75bhp manual bike. I was exempt from repeating my CBT and theory test because of my current A 78 licence status.

All this is very complicated; it even confused the test centre. They had to call the DVLA and DSA to check that what I was doing, was correct procedure. That caused an additional five minutes stress this morning prior to the test...
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£725 = $1164.79 = 846.41EUR = ¥7097.41 = ₪4098.50 as of a few minutes ago. Never let it be said that getting licensed to ride in the UK is cheap...or easy. But if it results in better riders and less crashes then it worth it I guess.
John, apparently this is exactly what it has done. There are far fewer youngsters putting bikes backwards and sideways through hedges. Testing here is now really tough. I found it tough and, although not a natural, relatively experienced with over 20,000 miles under my belt.

According to one of the instructors, lots of people got through the old testing regime by having a good day. That is almost impossible nowadays. You have to have control and be safe on the road. Actually make that VERY SAFE... if there is one thing that this test teaches you, it is observation; I now have a very sore neck from doing lifesavers Laughing emoticon

The other guy on his test with me today failed. I had followed him over the 8 miles to the test centre and wasn't particularly surprised, as he just seemed hesitant and not really in control. In fact after riding behind him for a while, I got pissed off and asked the instructor if I could take the lead.
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1st
Well done that man.

Any new toys planned ?

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Any new toys planned ?
Yes, but I have no idea what yet.

Reasons: I rarely ride my scooter. On a day-to-day basis I commute by bicycle. On days when it rains, I then get on my PTW. This amounts to fewer than one or two days a week on average. The rest of the time, I head off further afield.

I know what I DON'T want. I don't want a sportsbike. I am too old and inflexible for their riding position.

Candidates for consideration are:

Kawasaki Z1000SX
Triumph Speed Triple
Triumph Street Triple
Yamaha MT09
Kawasaki Z800
Triumph Tiger

It has to have more torque than the BMW C600 which almost rules out the Street, but the Street has got to win for lightness and delightful noise. The Yamaha is supposed to have a snatchy throttle which just won't do if that's true. I suspect a lot of test rides will happen over the next few months!!! So many more options. If I don't like them though, I will stay with the BMW.
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Peppy it's the full unrestricted glitter and sparkles licence. With bells and a cherry on top. Nowt more for him to do.
I wanna do that
Me two, I'll catch up with that in the next couple of years (having gone Auto restricted so far).

Really well done Doug - 'nowt more to do'! Clap emoticon Clap emoticon
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Kittysaz wrote:
Peppy it's the full unrestricted glitter and sparkles licence. With bells and a cherry on top. Nowt more for him to do.
I wanna do that
Me two, I'll catch up with that in the next couple of years (having gone Auto restricted so far).

Really well done Doug - 'nowt more to do'! Clap emoticon Clap emoticon
Same here bb7
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At the moment she is spending a week 'in the field' doing day/night navigation exercises and practicing long distance evacuation of wounded (marches over hilly terrain of 10-15 km carrying a 'wounded' soldier on a stretcher).
Ah, I remember that well from my service. In a couple of feet of fresh snow one time, just to add another element to stretchering your 'mate'. Character building stuff, good times as you say. Pleased that your daughter is doing so well, a stint at the military academy might set her up for life...
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Doug I vote for the Speed Triple! Had a lovely day canyon carving on my son's a couple of years ago north of LA calyfornia.

Full disclosure. It is the only one on your list I have actually ridden.

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It is getting harder and harder to pass the full test, not sure whether the powers that be are trying to make it safer or just trying to drive people away from bikes altogether.

For what it's worth my route was as follows;

CBT.
18 months road experience on an Aprilia Habana Custom 125cc.
4 hours bike school training on a geared 125cc.
Theory test.
DAS, 2 days training on a 500cc then the full test on the third day.
9 years accident free riding on a mixture of scooters and big bikes (touch wood it stays that way).

Enjoy the bike search, I've still yet to find the right bike for me. Laughing emoticon
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At Scootech this Sat, around 10.00 to get the remapping done, at last! - lets hope there's some improvement in the engine, as poor old LJ, is riding like a dog, sputtering and cutting out big time and not making the scootering experience nice these days..... Crying or Very sad emoticon
Kitty, I hear you've already had yours done- any improvement to your scoot??Lawrence did mention that it would give the scooter some more "pep"!!
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Silly Questions
A coworker asked me for help filling out the online application for a visa to visit the U.S.. As I was helping translate the form for him, we arrived at a series of questions that kinda took my breath away:
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Have you ever violated, or engaged in a conspiracy to violate, any law relating to controlled substances?
Yes No

Are you coming to the United States to engage in prostitution or unlawful commercialized vice or have you been engaged in prostitution or procuring prostitutes within the past 10 years?
Yes No

Have you ever been involved in, or do you seek to engage in, money laundering?
Yes No

Have you ever committed or conspired to commit a human trafficking offense in the United States or outside the United States?
Yes No

Have you ever knowingly aided, abetted, assisted or colluded with an individual who has committed, or conspired to commit a severe human trafficking offense in the United States or outside the United States?
Yes No

Are you the spouse, son, or daughter of an individual who has committed or conspired to commit a human trafficking offense in the United States or outside the United States and have you within the last five years, knowingly benefited from the trafficking activities?
Yes No

Do you seek to engage in espionage, sabotage, export control violations, or any other illegal activity while in the United States?
Yes No

Do you seek to engage in terrorist activities while in the United States or have you ever engaged in terrorist activities?
Yes No

Have you ever or do you intend to provide financial assistance or other support to terrorists or terrorist organizations?
Yes No

Are you a member or representative of a terrorist organization?
Yes No

Have you ever ordered, incited, committed, assisted, or otherwise participated in genocide?
Yes No

Have you ever committed, ordered, incited, assisted, or otherwise participated in torture?
Yes No

Have you committed, ordered, incited, assisted, or otherwise participated in extrajudicial killings, political killings, or other acts of violence?
Yes No

Have you ever engaged in the recruitment or the use of child soldiers?
Yes No

Have you, while serving as a government official, been responsible for or directly carried out, at any time, particularly severe violations of religious freedom?
Yes No

Have you ever been directly involved in the establishment or enforcement of population controls forcing a woman to undergo an abortion against her free choice or a man or a woman to undergo sterilization against his or her free will?
Yes No

Have you ever been directly involved in the coercive transplantation of human organs or bodily tissue?
Yes No
So here are a few things that have been puzzling me:

In the history of US Visa applications, has anyone ever answered 'yes' to even one of those questions?

Also, I'm troubled by a couple of the questions that ask the applicant to make a judgement call as to whether they have engaged in "severe human trafficking" or "particularly severe violations of religious freedom". No, your honor... I only participated in casual human trafficking and mild violations of religious freedoms.

Seriously! If you answer yes to even one of these questions, you deserve to be denied a visa just on the assumption that you are too stupid to function in a normal society.

Wow. Just, wow.
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I already had a full A class licence, BUT it had a 78 code next to it. That meant I could only ride automatics. There are a few of us Skoks who have exactly this type of licence... I never thought I would want to shift, but hey, things change.
Yes, I'm one. For reasons of economy and haste, I originally took the restricted A1 (Light Bikes) licence on my 80cc Suzuki scooter. This limited me to 125cc forever. Didn't think I'd ever want to go higher, changed my mind after a week-long trip to France in 2005 and took the test again, again on my own bike (a GT125).

I'd like to pass the manual test so I'd have the option to hire a bike abroad, but when I have the time I don't have the money and vice versa...

Oh yes, and WELL DONE DOUG!!
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Re: Silly Questions
Treppenwitz wrote:
A coworker asked me for help filling out the online application for a visa to visit the U.S.. As I was helping translate the form for him, we arrived at a series of questions that kinda took my breath away:
Quote:
Have you ever violated, or engaged in a conspiracy to violate, any law relating to controlled substances?
Yes No

Are you coming to the United States to engage in prostitution or unlawful commercialized vice or have you been engaged in prostitution or procuring prostitutes within the past 10 years?
Yes No

Have you ever been involved in, or do you seek to engage in, money laundering?
Yes No

Have you ever committed or conspired to commit a human trafficking offense in the United States or outside the United States?
Yes No

Have you ever knowingly aided, abetted, assisted or colluded with an individual who has committed, or conspired to commit a severe human trafficking offense in the United States or outside the United States?
Yes No

Are you the spouse, son, or daughter of an individual who has committed or conspired to commit a human trafficking offense in the United States or outside the United States and have you within the last five years, knowingly benefited from the trafficking activities?
Yes No

Do you seek to engage in espionage, sabotage, export control violations, or any other illegal activity while in the United States?
Yes No

Do you seek to engage in terrorist activities while in the United States or have you ever engaged in terrorist activities?
Yes No

Have you ever or do you intend to provide financial assistance or other support to terrorists or terrorist organizations?
Yes No

Are you a member or representative of a terrorist organization?
Yes No

Have you ever ordered, incited, committed, assisted, or otherwise participated in genocide?
Yes No

Have you ever committed, ordered, incited, assisted, or otherwise participated in torture?
Yes No

Have you committed, ordered, incited, assisted, or otherwise participated in extrajudicial killings, political killings, or other acts of violence?
Yes No

Have you ever engaged in the recruitment or the use of child soldiers?
Yes No

Have you, while serving as a government official, been responsible for or directly carried out, at any time, particularly severe violations of religious freedom?
Yes No

Have you ever been directly involved in the establishment or enforcement of population controls forcing a woman to undergo an abortion against her free choice or a man or a woman to undergo sterilization against his or her free will?
Yes No

Have you ever been directly involved in the coercive transplantation of human organs or bodily tissue?
Yes No
So here are a few things that have been puzzling me:

In the history of US Visa applications, has anyone ever answered 'yes' to even one of those questions?

Also, I'm troubled by a couple of the questions that ask the applicant to make a judgement call as to whether they have engaged in "severe human trafficking" or "particularly severe violations of religious freedom". No, your honor... I only participated in casual human trafficking and mild violations of religious freedoms.

Seriously! If you answer yes to even one of these questions, you deserve to be denied a visa just on the assumption that you are too stupid to function in a normal society.

Wow. Just, wow.
At this end, we get asked "has anyone placed anything in your luggage without your knowledge",,,,,In my best Lee Evans voice,,,HOW THE FUCK WOULD I KNOW. Crying or Very sad emoticon
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Doug - congratulations! #jealous
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Kitty (and anyone else who's interested) Module 2 Direct Access TICK! This morning. Funny, I wasn't nervous about this at all, unlike the Module 1. Managed to do two corkers - first, I locked up the back wheel in a patch of diesel and did a nice rear wheel skid and also managed to make the rear let go on a roundabout (stepped sideways about 6 inches). The first got me a minor, as I had applied the brakes rather sharply to avoid entering a box junction where the exit wasn't clear (lack of forward planning) and the second wasn't for the roundabout issue but for running wide on one particular corner when I wasn't looking where I was going.

The good thing about it all was the examiner said that it was a breath of fresh air riding with someone experienced. Another point of note, is that we spent very little time doing slow stuff most of it was either dual carriageway town ring road plus roundabouts or NSL A/B road stuff. Nice to be able to sit a 60 and 70 mph during a test. Dead chuffed
congrats, I agree Mod 1 is wierd with the swerve and all. Mod two is just riding. It goes to show though that every test diferent, my mrs test was at rush hour most of her's test was spent lane spliting between the Qs going into and out of he clyde tunnel. She had to stop when the examiner got stuck!
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A coworker asked me for help filling out the online application for a visa to visit the U.S.. As I was helping translate the form for him, we arrived at a series of questions that kinda took my breath away:
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Have you ever violated, or engaged in a conspiracy to violate, any law relating to controlled substances?
Yes No

Are you coming to the United States to engage in prostitution or unlawful commercialized vice or have you been engaged in prostitution or procuring prostitutes within the past 10 years?
Yes No

Have you ever been involved in, or do you seek to engage in, money laundering?
Yes No

Have you ever committed or conspired to commit a human trafficking offense in the United States or outside the United States?
Yes No

Have you ever knowingly aided, abetted, assisted or colluded with an individual who has committed, or conspired to commit a severe human trafficking offense in the United States or outside the United States?
Yes No

Are you the spouse, son, or daughter of an individual who has committed or conspired to commit a human trafficking offense in the United States or outside the United States and have you within the last five years, knowingly benefited from the trafficking activities?
Yes No

Do you seek to engage in espionage, sabotage, export control violations, or any other illegal activity while in the United States?
Yes No

Do you seek to engage in terrorist activities while in the United States or have you ever engaged in terrorist activities?
Yes No

Have you ever or do you intend to provide financial assistance or other support to terrorists or terrorist organizations?
Yes No

Are you a member or representative of a terrorist organization?
Yes No

Have you ever ordered, incited, committed, assisted, or otherwise participated in genocide?
Yes No

Have you ever committed, ordered, incited, assisted, or otherwise participated in torture?
Yes No

Have you committed, ordered, incited, assisted, or otherwise participated in extrajudicial killings, political killings, or other acts of violence?
Yes No

Have you ever engaged in the recruitment or the use of child soldiers?
Yes No

Have you, while serving as a government official, been responsible for or directly carried out, at any time, particularly severe violations of religious freedom?
Yes No

Have you ever been directly involved in the establishment or enforcement of population controls forcing a woman to undergo an abortion against her free choice or a man or a woman to undergo sterilization against his or her free will?
Yes No

Have you ever been directly involved in the coercive transplantation of human organs or bodily tissue?
Yes No
So here are a few things that have been puzzling me:

In the history of US Visa applications, has anyone ever answered 'yes' to even one of those questions?

Also, I'm troubled by a couple of the questions that ask the applicant to make a judgement call as to whether they have engaged in "severe human trafficking" or "particularly severe violations of religious freedom". No, your honor... I only participated in casual human trafficking and mild violations of religious freedoms.

Seriously! If you answer yes to even one of these questions, you deserve to be denied a visa just on the assumption that you are too stupid to function in a normal society.

Wow. Just, wow.
At this end, we get asked "has anyone placed anything in your luggage without your knowledge",,,,,In my best Lee Evans voice,,,HOW THE FUCK WOULD I KNOW. Crying or Very sad emoticon
I know a canadien girl that admited being done for a few joints, now she cant get a visa and has been in Van for the last 7 years.

Honesty is..........stupid?
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I used to hate it when.

My teacher used to say to me,,"what did I just tell you what to do?" Lets face it if I knew I would be doing it

Or "what did I just say?" Again if I knew You wouldn't have to tell me again

Or How Many times have I got to tell you?" Six more time please sir,,,cos I don't really give a shit about learning French

The best is "I'm not going to tell you again" Then the soppy bastard goes ahead and tells you anyway

The best one is a copper stopped me in the city one night and said "What is it that everyone else is doing that you're not?" Now come on FFS I'm not the brightest penny in the box but surely he would have realised that he didn't have to stop me if I was doing what everyone else was doing, and if I knew what I was doing wrong I would have sorted it out.
By the way I was driving with no lights

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Someone I know left his helmet on a petrol pump and rode off without it. The police officer's question was "Have we forgotten something, Sir?"
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Someone I know left his helmet on a petrol pump and rode off without it. The police officer's question was "Have we forgotten something, Sir?"
Instead of being sarcastic, why the hell didn't he just say "you've forgotten your helmet sir"

When I was an apprentice carpet fitter I worked under an old guy who was just the best teacher ever.
He would show me how to do something and then let me have a go with a spare/leftover piece of carpet, then when i got it wrong, instead of saying the usual "What did I show you"? or What's wrong with you can't you remember anything?"
He would just say " No thats not the right way to do it, here let me show you again and then you can have another go until you get it right, no rush"
Now thats how to teach people, with understanding and patients, not bullying.

I loved that man,,,his name was Wally Parker from Shepherd's Bush,,,a great character and a gentleman if there ever was one,,,,he past away many years ago.
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Re: Silly Questions
[quote="Treppenwitz"]A coworker asked me for help filling out the online application for a visa to visit the U.S.. As I was helping translate the form for him, we arrived at a series of questions that kinda took my breath away:

[quote]Have you ever violated, or engaged in a conspiracy to violate, any law relating to controlled substances?
Yes No





Actually there is a good reason for those questions even though Immigration expects you to answer NO to them all even if you have violated a few of them. They are a sworn statement to a Federal officer and as such can be used to various ends. If you have come to the US to do a bad thing, chances are you have answered at least one of those questions falsely. If you are found in the US doing something antisocial they can go back to that application and find a false statement and lock you up for that (perjury.)

Remember, every few years an ex-Nazi concentration camp guard is found in the US and is actually a citizen by then. They snatch him, revoke his citizenship based on the false application and deport him to Vienna or the Hague or Israel for further enquiries. It really is to give them a handle on you for decades to come.

Cheer up, things could be worse. So I cheered up and sure enough, things got worse.
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TREPP good for you and i wish more people and the news covered and did things like what your doing. Most people in Muslim countries don't hate Israel or non Muslims. They just want to be able to live and do things that others do. Your cultures are so alike in many ways i don't understand it. However wars (religious ones) have been going on forever. Have a safe trip
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Our heavily OCD'd IT Engineer left our company today and he had it bad.
No hand shaking, no pen borrowing and no door handle opening.
In his leaving card today I wrote " Can't touch this"
I though that was quite funny.

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I've just learnt that I've lost my grandfather (dads dad), to cancer and old age, and so am quietly reflecting...
As a child of young parents I was very lucky to have clear memories of a full set of grandparents and great grandparents, and with that a real sense of where I'd come from and the family around me. My grandfather is the last of my grandparents to leave us, which is a sad thing. Remembrance Day will include another name for us this year.
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Sorry about that brown_beret7, although it's sometimes expected, it's never good news. Spent some time remembering and reinforcing those great feelings that you have for him and he'll never really leave.

I still remember my dad's mum donning a full face of cold cream, taking our her dentures and chasing us around the campsite. Why she did that, I don't think that anyone ever knew
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Departed Paros on the 10:45 AM ferry on Wed, Arrived London at 9:30 PM. Departed Lon at 13:00 on Thur, arrived Walnut Creek, CA at midnight. The things we do for friends.
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Departed Paros on the 10:45 AM ferry on Wed, Arrived London at 9:30 PM. Departed Lon at 13:00 on Thur, arrived Walnut Creek, CA at midnight. The things we do for friends.
Holy crap, there's a ferry from Paros to London?!
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