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1963 VBB with a PX150 engine??? Is it worth less because the original engine was replaced with a modern engine? I guess it is not 100% original...

What do you think?
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People do it all the time. I'm considering putting a 200 in my '59 at some point... Maybe... If I find a cheap lump. Still thinking about it.

Only a purist might scoff, but the newer ones are more reliable, some would say. 12volt, electronic ignition, etc.
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Unless the scooter you are referring to us a Vietnamese restoration aka bodge. Then yes it's crap.
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It is my opinion that the value of a 1963 VBB would only be negatively impacted if the scooter were a restoration; that is, a beautifully restored scooter at $4000 with the incorrect engine would probably sell for $1000 less. Exceptions to this would be crazy custom shit (non-nammer).
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SFvsr wrote:
It is my opinion that the value of a 1963 VBB would only be negatively impacted if the scooter were a restoration; that is, a beautifully restored scooter at $4000 with the incorrect engine would probably sell for $1000 less. Exceptions to this would be crazy custom shit (non-nammer).
I see!!! Thanks!
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SFvsr wrote:
It is my opinion that the value of a 1963 VBB would only be negatively impacted if the scooter were a restoration; that is, a beautifully restored scooter at $4000 with the incorrect engine would probably sell for $1000 less. Exceptions to this would be crazy custom shit (non-nammer).
I see!!! Thanks!
However, if the VBB in question is a run-of-the-mill rusty ass pile of a daily driver, then a PX150 engine would definitely add value.


Now. Let's see a picture of this scooter. SHOW ME THE 10 INCH WHEEL CONVERSION! (This is said with my best CGJ impression.)
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If it's a rider, not a show piece, then I think that conversion makes the bike more appealing. Not more valuable, mind you. Unlike cars of the era, Vespa just got better and better as time went on, from a functional standpoint. So this is a classic with a better motor. We're not talking big block Dodge Coronet here, so the negative impact would be minimal, and others seem to agree. Pay accordingly, and enjoy the ride!
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miami

Methinks you might be over analyzing the subject.

The value of any scooter is going to be the price the seller and buyer agree upon in closing a sale. If those two are happy, what does it matter what anyone else thinks? Unless you are buying something as an investment for value appreciation and/or stability purposes, just go with your budget and what floats your boat. Find something you personally like and try to bargain the price down, if possible, just on general principles. But if you pass up what you really want and can afford because a basic stranger on the internet says it's a bit overpriced, you are simply punishing yourself. Whatever you buy, you can rest assured that something seemingly similar or even better is going to someday turn up at a lower price, so just go for it.

Unless the price is outlandish, find something reliable and you like and ride the hell out of it! Every day you dawdle, is a day you are not riding.

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