Modern Vespa

Can you recommend a 2 stroke oil you have been using for your vespa to mix it with gas?
Is there a brand to prefer or is there a brand to stay away from?

Thanks so much!

It is an old vespa so I need to mix gas with oil....

This one may get a lot of varied answers... so I'll just give my short 2c.
Stay away from über cheap chainsaw / yard tools stuff.
I always use Motul 710 and swear by it... it's more expensive than some but worth it in my O. No splooge and never a problem! %2 every time! (premix)

And here are some other suggestions..........

You are awesome! Thanks!

Oil is like underwear, either you like tighty-whities, silk panther print banana boats, or boxer briefs. How do you like your nuts tucked?

Seriously, this topic has been covered before. Amsoil Dominator, Motul 510 or 710 are some of the best.

Personally I only use 710, but would use Amsoil Dominator if I could not get 710 or if my drug habit got out of control.


710 =

What's with the cardboard tubes on the floor.. clean that shit up!!!!

And what appears to be a wooden chair...in the bathroom?

I like castrol activ for that sweet dino oil smell and cheap price

I was wondering the same.

Hey!!! Talk about oil!!! LOL

I'm not sure suspenders are necessary when your shorts are as tight as that.

Further investigation of top rung shows that the chair has evidence of being used under the door knob to provide some form of security lock while suspect performs lewd acts of cardboard fetish.

Or also could be chew marks while sitting on the john. That's what I do with my chair in the bathroom.

I suspect there is a gerbil hiding somewhere.

You didn't mention any particulars about your Scooter (year/make/model). Most Vespas made after 1980 and the Lambretta 75SL ' Cometa' have automatic oil metering devices with a separate oil tank. I recommend Motul 510 or 710. Consult this page for your year/make/model Vespa and pre-mix instructions. Do not take our word for it. Do your research.

http://books.google.com/books?id=YwMDEUn1V3gC&pg=PA155&lpg=PA155&dq=1964+Vespa+GL+premix&source=bl&ots=F-0lCXfDse&sig=-RiILWpkEbKy187mTFe81FTz9y0&hl=en&sa=X&ei=AMHaUfO-Fenw0QHcjIGQBw&ved=0CC0Q6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=1964%20Vespa%20GL%20premix&f=false

Note: Go all the way to the bottom of the page for pre-mix instructions page 154.

Common examples of pre-mix differences. Also remember modern Syn Oil is much better than what was produced in 1960's... Just Saying.

Most Vintage Vespa Models (Non-Piston Ported) 2%
Piston Ported 3%-5%
62-64 GS Model 5%
57-60 125 Model 5%
64-68 180 SS Model 5%

Yes, what scooter did you end up getting, miami?

1963 VBB with LML Stella 150 cc 5 port engine with a sito plus high performance sport exhaust.

I apologize, you are right!
1963 VBB with LML Stella 150 cc 5 port engine with a sito plus high performance sport exhaust.

Motul 710

This is not my information. It was taken from another site...

Depends on what you mean by a "Stella" engine. The engine as installed in the Stella is oil injected, and does not need premix (it still consumes oil, as all two strokes do, but it has a seperate oil reservoir and does the mixing itself).

However LML produces a 5 port Stella style engine designed to be used as a replacement engine for classic Vespas. This one DOES require premix, as would most classic Vespas. Example here:

http://www.scooterworks.com/Engine_150cc_-_5_port_NON-INJ_P3905C466.cfm

I would guess that they probably put the pre-mix version of the engine in, rather than take an engine out of a Stella and then make a premix reservoir.

Yes, my Vespa requires premix. I need some recommendation for the oil for the premix. I apologize I wasn't clear.

I am an Si-7 guy, on the recommendation of HRA.

He likes the 710 too, but I think the SI-7 burns cleaner on my bike.

I've used both Bell Ray, and Motul, and have been happy with both.





Rob

I only use Amsoil in my gas mixture and belray in my gearbox but \I use a high grade gear oil because of my clutch plates

As mentioned a "Stella" engine would be fuel injected and therefore premix would not be needed.

Is there an oil site glass on the frame below the fuel tap and choke levers?

It's a VBB with an LML, needs to be Pre mix.

Anyone give the Motul 800 a try?

I've got a bottle on my shelf.. haven't used it yet.. what I'v read about it, is that it has a higher flash point.. meaning if your're riding around town and not really racing or revving your motor all to hell, it may be a bit much.. and splooge on you! It'll no doubt work, but I'm saving it for a day at the races!

710 FTW!

Plus one on Dominator.

Also, I can understand the empty toilet paper roll in the bathroom. But WTF is an empty paper towel roll doing there? Pper towels=no bueno on plumbing!

So you like his cat ears then?

Those are not good for the plumbing also.

i also like the fold in the drapes.....DIIIIRTY!

Ok... all you guys seem to be dancing around it... so I'll just say it!
I think those shorts make his buns look wonderful!



oh... Motul 710 %2

Sorry, the good deals are done. Too many people took advantage of the good prices and we almost sold out. Edited for this reason.

I got a bottle of that with Chef Aaron's GS...being clear weirded me out!

I use Motul 800 on my kitted Rat, I believe it is premix only. Malossi 166 loves the high revs and sometimes I will get on it a bit...but just sometimes...like every light.

Ordered a case....

figure I will blend a little Bel-Ray in to make it light blue and easier to see.

Good thinking! I saw the order come through. We'll get it out today.

Also, I always ran Motul 800 on my high performance scooters that were not injected and loved it. My P-221 never seized once, and I attribute it to the 800 (and not running an engine cowl). The 800 is pre-mix only, though.

Just wish I had thought of it while I was down for AmeriVespa... 15% extra off....

ah well.

I noticed that, but don't understand why. What does it do (or not do) with autolube?

My guess is more viscous.