Modern Vespa

I know this is not a news flash or anything, but a P series saddle in prime condition is actually a pretty comfy ride when you have to ride on California's deteriorating roads, potholes and all. Those springs can take much more of the shock away from your back than the more modern seats with plastic pans.

California is prone to potholes? I am a west coaster and I will tell ya the constant freeze and thaw with the addition of salt here in Chicago make California's roads look like a roller rink.

True true... Good thing you've got that K&Q Throne! just thinking about it made me more comfortable! The roads here are pretty chitty too A.. I was really surprised how bad they were in San Diego.. a nice stock P or K&Q would have saved my boney ass.

My original old 1980 P series saddle is still the most comfortable I've ever had. I think about putting it back on all the time.

Love the P seat, but I still favor a properly stuffed Rally seat.
Seriously, riding my 180 is like having your ass cupped by the hands of angels. 8)

I had been riding my GT200 modern scoot quite a bit, which is why the P saddle seems even more comfy. I like the GT200, but that plastic pan in the seat sends every jolt right up your spine. I know...I am starting to sound like an old guy (because I am.)

Yup, the Rally saddle is another good one for crummy roads.

Is a P saddle any different tnan a '60s saddle? I like my stock GL saddle a lot, but it's obviously not as solid as a bench and feels 'looser' when riding. P saddle pic for reference, I didn't even know they had them available.


xantufrog's bike when 'new', but seat was quickly changed to a bench. From this old P saddle seat thread

Actually I was talking about a P series bench with springs. I had the single saddle on my Sprint, and the P bench has it beat for comfort...at least for my posterior.

Bench style sprung p seats are comfy as fuck. I have a spring bench one on my t5 and its so comfortable

Heh, that wasn't a P-series saddle - the previous owner had just stuck one of the earlier model saddles on mine (his) for some reason. I changed it out for a Stella seat he threw in with the sale, which was kind of hard and sucky, then got my hands on an old p-series bench seat with the foam over springs - I'll second Len that they are way better than the new foam over plastic design. Lovin it

Springs rock ,I've even had cars n trucks with spring seats that were bomb.

I have to agree. I have ridden a lot of bikes and can't remember having a saddle as comfy. It definitely beats the lounge seat with the butt rest on the Burgman I had recently. No more hot numby cheeks for me.