Modern Vespa

I was reading a couple of posts about pulling the flywheel on a VBA, and it mentions using the nut pushing against the circlip to get it off. How to remove Flywheel without special flywheel tool

I looked at mine and apparently there is no circlip. I see a groove in there so I assume that's where the clip goes.

Can I pull it without the help of the circlip, or will it be easier with the circlip?

Can I buy that size circlip anywhere or will I need to order it?

Thanks.

If you loosen the nut (don't take it off) and then hammer on the end of it it should free the taper.

BUT

There's a small chance you could damage the bearings or possibly even the cases so I probably wouldn't do this unless absolutely necessary.

Measure the internal diameter where the circlip seats and you should be able to get an internal circlip from a bearing/engineering shop.

Thanks

For god's sake get the correct cir-clip. I know this means waiting, but it is the right thing to do.

You should be able to get one at any decent hardware store. I wouldn't worry about metric vs standard. The most important thing is making sure the cir-clip is beefy enough to take the pressure. Most of the generic cir-clips froma hardware store will be too thin metal and will twist out and get chewed up by the flywheel nut. So you'll have to get the right one.

Find someone with a VBB/Sprint and use theirs.

If it's being stubborn:

1) put some penetrant behind the nut.

2) heat flywheel hub.

3) when you have lots of pressure against the snapring(starting to bulge), give a couple sharp raps with a center punch in the dimple on the crank end. Small to medium hammer, easy does it - no mashed threads on crank this way. Turn the nut a bit & repeat as needed. Should pop right off now.

Speaking of snap rings, be sure to clean the corners of the groove well and install snapring with sharp edge facing out. If I'm using an old one I like to stretch it out a little so it's good & tight in the groove.

If it's being REAL stubborn PM me, I know a few other unapproved trix that have worked.

If I have to order one so be it. I'm in no hurry to fuck this thing up. We have an Ace store that stocks all kinds of small hardware, fasteners, etc. I'll try to find the beefiest on I can. if it doesn't look beefy, I won't use it. HA! I wish. The only other scooter within an hour and a half drive is a P200.

Thanks for the tips

Thanks for the tips. I'll hit you up if I run into any snags.

I should have one for u.
Going to check now, ill let u know soon.

Found one. If you want it PM me your address and ill send it to u.

Thanks Chaus

Yeah. This is the most dangerous and absolutely foolish advice combination I have read in a good while.

Make sure you have someone ready to take you to the ER when you pass out and start having seizures from phosgene poisoning.

Then you die.

Absolutely the most careless and stupid stupid stupid stupid fucking stupid advice to give over the internet. And if anyone ever follows this advice then you are just as stupid.

Thankyou for your concern. Guess I've just been lucky. My penetrant is 50/50 acetone & ATF, not some odd clorinated commercial product. Always remember to make SURE it is a non-chlorinated cleaner or solvent before you use it for anything or use appropriate protection. Also I don't do this kind of thing in cramped spaces....

And if this is the stupidest thing you've read here, you've been missing out. Search here for "stupid stupid stupid stupid fucking stupid" & you'll see what I mean. Then Google 'phosgene poisoning' if you are worried. Also PB Blaster, WD40 etc. post MSDS reports for all to see. Be careful, folks!


"On His Majesty's Service"

I may know more about phosgene poisoning than you'll ever know. My Grampa was a victim in WWI, he told me all about it.

'Nuff said.

Just noticed the thread, and curious. Did the circlip work?

Reason I ask is that I've never successfully used the circlip method to remove an old flywheel. And that's with a clean groove, etc.

Claw hammer - yes.
Two or three wedges - yes (Broken flywheel - yes!)

But, circlip - no.