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That's awesome, lol - Thanks!

Yup, looks like floors and the wheel well mentioned earlier have been patched (or that's what it looks like from here) Oh well, not a pristine body by any means, but looks like the work that you would've had to do is sort of already done.

Good luck with the rest. Looks like you're gonna have this thing done by the end of the day
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Just got down really cleaning the frame before grinding/blasting it and I must of won the Pakistan lottery. Hell I've seen worse rust on 10 year old cars and worse repairs to boot.

I went ahead and did a quick rustolum rust converter layer on the bare metal so it doesn't rust. I'm not quite ready for paint yet and want to have a plan before really blasting the paint off.

I don't know if it was the thick layer of sand over everything but it was preserved. I saw some more janky fun but deep down in all the inner sanctum crevices... looks good.

The headstock... I might just go ahead with the round one because I like it better, but I'll have to swap the bars, one has a crack in it. Holy crap how does one even get a crack in tubed steel. I guess I should actually strip it first and see if the whole thing was broke off. At least the squarish replacement I got had already been blasted and looks good to go.
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I love the current movement of celebrating a bikes sordid history. Keep at it and don't get discouraged!

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sandsz wrote:
Mattgyver wrote:
Based on the foot peg things on the floor of the sandblasted bike, I think that bike was also from Panistan.
Sorry the sticker was a mspaint special, not real.

Aww, almost was hoping for one from 'NAM.

I'm going to cut a plastic 50gal drum in half, build a quick frame to hold it and fill it with water and baking soda. I'll drip the whole damn bike in there and do electrolysis for a while, maybe it'll boil up the paint with rust and I'll see where I'm at. I already gotta do two tanks and all the body panels, why not?

PAKI-Special well on its way. I need some cool Paki art to put on the side covers. Why not embrace the heritage? Maybe some Pakistan Henna or paint the thing like one of those Paki trucks.
Solid ideas... all of 'em... I'd love to see you follow the Pakistani paint idea.. there are pics on here of really good examples.. I'll try and find some..
I wanna see a fringed seat cover.
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Vader19 wrote:
sandsz wrote:
Mattgyver wrote:
Based on the foot peg things on the floor of the sandblasted bike, I think that bike was also from Panistan.
Sorry the sticker was a mspaint special, not real.

Aww, almost was hoping for one from 'NAM.

I'm going to cut a plastic 50gal drum in half, build a quick frame to hold it and fill it with water and baking soda. I'll drip the whole damn bike in there and do electrolysis for a while, maybe it'll boil up the paint with rust and I'll see where I'm at. I already gotta do two tanks and all the body panels, why not?

PAKI-Special well on its way. I need some cool Paki art to put on the side covers. Why not embrace the heritage? Maybe some Pakistan Henna or paint the thing like one of those Paki trucks.
Solid ideas... all of 'em... I'd love to see you follow the Pakistani paint idea.. there are pics on here of really good examples.. I'll try and find some..
I wanna see a fringed seat cover.
I want to see you have all the work done by a 9 year-old kid.
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PAKI-Special well on its way. I need some cool Paki art to put on the side covers. Why not embrace the heritage? Maybe some Pakistan Henna or paint the thing like one of those Paki trucks.
This country has had enough racist bullshit to last 10 lifetimes. Please leave your racially derogatory terms in the trash bin outside.
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PAKI-Special well on its way. I need some cool Paki art to put on the side covers. Why not embrace the heritage? Maybe some Pakistan Henna or paint the thing like one of those Paki trucks.
This country has had enough racist bullshit to last 10 lifetimes. Please leave your racially derogatory terms in the trash bin outside.
I'm using Paki as an abbreviation of Pakistan. Is there another way of abbreviating it? Sorry I didn't know it was a racist term. Did you know the word Eggplant in Italian is a racist way to describing a black man?

Don't be a negative nelly, like SFvsr, who btw seems to have more sand in his VaJJ then my bike's undercarriage.
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jackson85 wrote:
Vader19 wrote:
sandsz wrote:
Mattgyver wrote:
Based on the foot peg things on the floor of the sandblasted bike, I think that bike was also from Panistan.
Sorry the sticker was a mspaint special, not real.

Aww, almost was hoping for one from 'NAM.

I'm going to cut a plastic 50gal drum in half, build a quick frame to hold it and fill it with water and baking soda. I'll drip the whole damn bike in there and do electrolysis for a while, maybe it'll boil up the paint with rust and I'll see where I'm at. I already gotta do two tanks and all the body panels, why not?

PAKI-Special well on its way. I need some cool Paki art to put on the side covers. Why not embrace the heritage? Maybe some Pakistan Henna or paint the thing like one of those Paki trucks.
Solid ideas... all of 'em... I'd love to see you follow the Pakistani paint idea.. there are pics on here of really good examples.. I'll try and find some..
I wanna see a fringed seat cover.
I want to see you have all the work done by a 9 year-old kid.
Why, are you available?
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Bar Italia Classics wrote:
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PAKI-Special well on its way. I need some cool Paki art to put on the side covers. Why not embrace the heritage? Maybe some Pakistan Henna or paint the thing like one of those Paki trucks.
This country has had enough racist bullshit to last 10 lifetimes. Please leave your racially derogatory terms in the trash bin outside.
I'm using Paki as an abbreviation of Pakistan. Is there another way of abbreviating it? Sorry I didn't know it was a racist term. Did you know the word Eggplant in Italian is a racist way to describing a black man?

Don't be a negative nelly, like SFvsr, who btw seems to have more sand in his VaJJ then my bike's undercarriage.
I'll forgive the unintentional use of "Paki". But the rest of your post -- with only a handful of posts to your name -- pretty much guarantees that you haven't really figured out the tone of this forum.

For future reference, newbies don't get a lot of latitude to go mouthing off.

Hope it works out better for you next time.
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really, Jess?
Reconsideration request tendered? A timeout perhaps?

He has potential..... may take the hint. Just accept this as fact: Too many tender toes around here sometimes.

And with most ppl 'Paki' is a proper form or diminutive of 'Pakistani', much like 'Indo' or 'Brit' or 'Aussie'. Shorthand for the longer name, not derogatory per se.
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Re: really, Jess?
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much like 'Indo' or 'Brit' or 'Aussie'. Shorthand for the longer name, not derogatory per se.
Negative.

I disagree.

Paki is along the lines of "Jap"......no bueno.

Indo is used by Indonesian surfers and was passed on to American surfers who use the term with respect. "I paddled out with the Indo boys yesterday..fuckin kicked my ass". And so on.

Brit is rarely used and I tend to just say the "British".

Aussi is another word that I learned from the Australian surfers here in the 80's. Again, "I paddled out with Aussi boys yesterday and they kicked my ass".

ANyway.........

BTW. Aussis surfers refer to us as Yanks or Yankees. Its all good in tha hood.
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OK. Maybe best to avoid ALL diminutives then, unless you are up to date on these things or have a handbook. I am not and do not. My apologies to all of Pakistani heritage(and my Paki(stani) friends, both here & in Greece).

Did you know that 'Greek' is a Turkish word for 'slave' and you really ought to call them 'Ellenithes' to avoid risk?

I think Aussie & Indo were used long before you were surfing.

shoulda just hit 'walk away' i guess....
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I think Aussie & Indo were used long before you were surfing.

For sure.

I'm actually not a surfer. I just play one on tv.

Abreviating is like shorthand texting........kinda lazy.
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This isn't about the term "Paki". It's about mouthy newbies.
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I take it back. Our friend sandsz has attempted to re-register no less than 24 times with a variety of "Paki" related usernames, some of them riffing on SFvsr's name in new and imaginative ways.
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sandsz has attempted to re-register no less than 24 times.
Is that a record?

I didn't even know you could do that.
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I take it back. Our friend sandsz has attempted to re-register no less than 24 times with a variety of "Paki" related usernames, some of them riffing on SFvsr's name in new and imaginative ways.
I won't speak for our Pakistani users, but I'm flattered.
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I take it back. Our friend sandsz has attempted to re-register no less than 24 times with a variety of "Paki" related usernames, some of them riffing on SFvsr's name in new and imaginative ways.
I won't speak for our Pakistani users, but I'm flattered.
Quit being negative man you're bringing me down.
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Is that a record?

I didn't even know you could do that.
I've seen spammers originating out of China that have tried more times than that. But only rarely. It's kind of gratifying to waste the time of the spammers for a change, as each registration cycle requires several steps.
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Ooh, he tried one more registration. The username was "Go fuck yourself asshole".

Always amusing.
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Share some of the others... for a laugh!... see how creative he was.
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riffing on SFvsr's name in new and imaginative ways.
but I'm flattered.
Damn.........you were never flattered when I did it.
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sandsz wrote:
PAKI-Special well on its way. I need some cool Paki art to put on the side covers. Why not embrace the heritage? Maybe some Pakistan Henna or paint the thing like one of those Paki trucks.
This country has had enough racist bullshit to last 10 lifetimes. Please leave your racially derogatory terms in the trash bin outside.
If there's one think I love, it's consistency! Heck, the dude might just have been drunk and didn't really mean it. But on the other hand, for all we know he might like to dress up in Nazi outfits on the weekend! Either way, keep fighting the good fight.
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Hello

As an aside the Pakistan ambassador in London has the numberplate on the official car as PAK1.

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Hello

As an aside the Pakistan ambassador in London has the numberplate on the official car as PAK1.

Grumpy
The quickest way to disarm racists is to embrace their bigotry in jest.

I've never heard Paki used in a derogatory fashion in the US but I was aware that it was not so nice in Britlandia. 2 out of my 3 roommates are from Pakistan. I'll ask them their take on it, but I think they care a lot more about the lack of understanding of their religion than being labeled as an derogatory term for an Pakistani immigrant.

Anyone watch the US-Costa Rica soccer match a couple nights ago? I watched it on Univision because I didn't have the feed in English (and I speak Spanish so no hay niguna problem para mi a verlo en Espanol) but I was surprised at how the Mexican announcers referred to JOse Torres repeatedly as "El Gringo Torres" every time he touched the ball. I got the feeling that they were saying it in a derogatory fashion because he is a Mexican-American who plays in the Mexican league but represents the US internationally. BTW, I'm sure you west coasters know but for everyone else "Gringo" is basically the N-bomb for Norte-Americanos.
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"Gringo" is basically the N-bomb for Norte-Americanos.
Gringo is no where near or close to the "N" word.
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in Texas it sure is Jimmy
Thats cause Texans have thin skin.

I dont know....maybe go around your area and take a survey.
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here is one of the definitions of Gringo from the Urban dictionary. I am in san diego next to the border and don't really hear it much at all. although I haven't been to TJ for years cause of all the cartel crap.

"Folklore says it was generated when the US invaded mexico, wearing green uniforms, and the people shouted at them "Green Go Home"

With time it lost all derogatory status and was turned into the most common word to refer to any US citizen. it also represents behaviour and attitudes latinos consider to be "american".


this line was funny...."Mira a los pinche Gringos de mierda!"


I cant even mention what the Urban dictionary says about Paki........
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It's pretty derogatory, that's why the Mexican announcers called the guy "El Gringo Torres" over and over and to reenforce the displeasure that a Mexican American would play for the US national team.

Side note- Did you know Chivas FC in Mexico (not the LA one) has never fielded a non-mexican born player?

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"Folklore says it was generated when the US invaded mexico, wearing green uniforms, and the people shouted at them "Green Go Home"

With time it lost all derogatory status and was turned into the most common word to refer to any US citizen. it also represents behaviour and attitudes latinos consider to be "american".
So Mexicans speak English now....cause green in Spanish in Verde. Not doubting you, just saying, it's on the internet, must be true.
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dcunited4life wrote:
"Gringo" is basically the N-bomb for Norte-Americanos.
Gringo is no where near or close to the "N" word.
Ok, maybe it's closer to some of the derogatory terms used for Mexicans (or any immigrant from south of the border, which all get lumped in as Mexicans unfortunately) Still, I ain't calling my Mexican friends beaner or the like and I sure as hell ain't calling any Guatemalans Mexicans....being that Mexico stole half their country they're a little sensitive about that.
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I like jbweld.
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I like jbweld.
I never use the stuff tried it once or twice back in the day and never had much success with it. I learned there is no substitute for fixing it right. So I guess what I'm saying is Jbweld stinks
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jimmyb865 wrote:
I like jbweld.
I never use the stuff tried it once or twice back in the day and never had much success with it. I learned there is no substitute for fixing it right. So I guess what I'm saying is Jbweld stinks
You were using it wrong. 8)
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