Modern Vespa

The entire computer industry is seeing a massive sea change right now, with mobile devices becoming incredibly important. I thought it might be useful to compare some older MV stats to today and see what that looks like.

I chose as a point in the past January of 2010. I don't have much data farther back than that breaking down the different types of devices, so this one will have to do.

For current data, I chose June of 2013.

What a difference two three and a half years makes.

That's quite a change in just 3-1/2 years!

Doh! You're right, I counted wrong. Now fixed.

That doesn't surprise me. I know my device of choice for viewing the web is the iPad (followed by the iPhone and lastly the iMac).

I haven't used my desk top in 4 yrs.I think my mom has it haha

Desktop for me all the way. No I-Pod, no I-Pad, no Sanitary Pad or whatever they call them. A tablet is something you swallow with a glass of water. A phone with more than a dial tone is bullshit. I don't want to text. I don't want to take pix or videos. I only want to make a phone call. My cell sits on my dresser and I only carry it on road trips or vacation. Then, I only turn it on when I want to make a call. Snort. Rant over.

jess-

Are the raw numbers indicative of mobile devices causing an increase in page views versus merely "stealing business away" from desktops?

Our son (age 52) was here for 2 weeks. He was constantly pulling out his Blackberry upon receiving a "notification" from several forums he monitors, as well as FB. Our 16 yr old grand daughter did the same with her smart phone.

And there were those who thought TV was causing mindlessness!

I'm also going to assume there was an increase in traffic - so while those are proportionally correct the 30% or so of mobile traffic you're seeing now would be a larger number than if you looked at 30% of 2010 traffic... Is that true?

The later graph does represent an increase in traffic. However, because of the seasonality of MV, it's not a strictly fair comparison. Let me pull the numbers from June of 2010.

Okay, here's the whole sequence from June 2010 to June 2013. Pageview traffic was actually up for a couple years but is now softening a bit, consistent with the shift to Facebook. Number of visits is up a bit.

My only access to the interwebs at the moment is my smartphone. I may soon get a tablet brcause my eyes are not what they used to be.

And in case anyone is curious, here's last month's mobile device breakdown by brand. Note that this is only mobile, no desktop. This is fairly consistent with industry trends.

Very interesting indeed-especially to me that the tablet category so quickly took a respectable spot. I wonder if that will increase or flatten over the next couple of years.

Good move on your part, Jess, to leave a considerable amount of space for devices we haven't even heard about yet.

And I still remember thinking "what the Hell am I going to do with these damn computer cards, punching out the little shards to make some dang computer work in college." I was sure I would never touch a computer in my lifetime. Positive, I was.

Does the "Not Set category include the Surface tablet, or would they fall in the Desktop bucket?

I would expect them to fall into Mobile, but let me see if they show up further down the list or not.

Well, I can't find anything conclusive. There are five pageviews (!) in June from a mobile device running Windows (not Windows Phone, that's separate). So that could be the Surface, or that could be something else weird and Surface could be lumped in with Windows desktop.

Really not sure. Realistically, though, I don't expect that Surface devices would be contributing very much to the traffic stats.

I'm curious. I use my laptop with my phone as a hotspot. Does that count as desktop or mobile?

The phone is just too small to use regularly. With a full size keyboard on the laptop, I can type almost as fast I can think, and my aging eyes find it much nicer. For now and in the past, phone hotspot is my best option.

reasonable assumption. Sell-in rate was high, sell-out rate was low.

That would count as desktop. What's being counted is the information that your browser identifies itself with (aka the "User Agent String"). So if you're browsing with your desktop, it's the desktop browser's User Agent String that is being counted.

Too bad. Like MS or not, variety in any marketplace is a good thing. It is interesting that some Linux variant is now a major player in the consumer computing market.

I'm definitely not passing judgement here. I just don't have anything that points to Surface specifically.

No worries, I didn't think so.

But can you break it down by seconds?



http://kotaku.com/72-hours-of-youtube-uploads-every-minute-and-more-inte-912032115

This includes tablet?

Yes.

And I bet that also doesn't account for browsers that submit a different User Agent String. For example, I like to use Opera on my Android phone and tablet, but I tell it to pretend it's a Desktop so that it won't take me to mobile-specific pages that just tend to annoy me with their stripped-down content more than they make life easier...

I would wager that your scenario represents a very, very small percentage of the traffic. I doubt that most of our users even know what a user agent string is. Not that they should -- it's a fairly obscure detail.

Oh. Right. IT guy. I forget sometimes that not everyone thinks like I do...

As for the M$ Surface, I don't know what Windows RT registers as, but I'd be pretty surprised if the running full Win8 register as anything but Desktop. But what do I know?

Mark

It might very well. I haven't seen one in person or examined any data coming from it yet.

All I see is a blue Pac-Man.

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I wholeheartedly agree.

I will say I split a lot of my browsing time between desktop PC, tablet, and my smartphone. Though on all my mobile devices I run my user agent as desktop to keep my formatting as I'm use to seeing it. So I might be skewing your results a tad.... though I'm sure it is a very insignificant amount in the grand scheme.

p.s - Jess, as unfortunate as it was you weren't able to attend Amerivespa I need to thank you as I was the recipient of your unneeded registration. Literally my face as they read off your name as they wrote me in instead

Where's the love for WebOS? I browse the forum regularly from my TouchPad.

you and the two other people who bought them during the firesale aren't making enough of a blip. script a http get to run every 5 seconds...

ks7877 made it happen. I was just going to eat the cost, but she convinced me that it was much needed. Glad it went to an MVer!

I use my iPhone 90% of the time, always on me, always connected.

Perhaps the lack of Surface stats can be traced to this: CLICKY

Question: How much bandwidth would an "I don't own a MS Surface Tablet" thread consume?

Does that include viewers that are guests and don't log in?

With the Surface or any other Win 8 tablet it could make a big difference which browser they are using. Even the RT versions ship with 2 slightly different versions of IE 10. One uses the "modern" (aka Metro) interface and has more limited features for "ease of use" and is the default if you launch from the tiles start screen. The other is a full IE 10 complete with developer tools and launches from the desktop. That's what I use whether I'm on my Windows 8 Pro tablet (full i7 processor, HD graphics, digitzer, etc similar to the Surface Pro but Sony and slightly bigger) or on the MS Surface RT (ARM processor limited to apps more like an iPad than a real computer).

Breakdown of Internet Explorer user strings is at http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms537503(v=vs.85).aspx#UATokenRef if anyone is interested.

As a result of this thread I spent a little time with yesterday's stats on my blog since I was updating my ride reports using my Windows tablet. I use Google Analytics on the site and looking at the stats it does not show a single access by a Windows tablet despite the fact that I was viewing, editing and publishing using one.

All of the Windows OS access are shown as desktop so apparently nobody used a Windows phone to visit the site in the last week which is all I checked. Mobile shows Firefox OS, iOS and Android. Tablet shows just iOS and Android.

Yes.