Sun, 01 Sep 2013 00:21:39 +0000

Molto Verboso
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Molto Verboso
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Sun, 01 Sep 2013 00:21:39 +0000 quote
Oh Snap!
I don't have a lammy, but i'm going to do the knobbies and maybe a straight bar weld on the scoot. I'm so into this thread! I'm going totally opposite direction of Vader's clean scoots. Lord know all the imperfections my scoot has, now if it's covered with dirt and mud.......I can just blame everything on that!

Last edited by rufio on Mon, 02 Sep 2013 13:41:08 +0000; edited 1 time
Sun, 01 Sep 2013 00:28:19 +0000

Mr. Clean
P,SUPER,V90, 50 Special
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Mr. Clean
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Sun, 01 Sep 2013 00:28:19 +0000 quote
Rufi if you go knobbies and off road the chit out of it, you'll have not only my blessing, but I'll buy your 1st box of bandaids!, and I'll buy you some bad ass off road grips! do it man! we'll take it to the bear with the 185!
Sun, 01 Sep 2013 01:27:39 +0000

Enthusiast
'69 Vespa Sprint, '59 Lambretta LI125 (S1)
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Enthusiast
'69 Vespa Sprint, '59 Lambretta LI125 (S1)
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Sun, 01 Sep 2013 01:27:39 +0000 quote
Thanks for bringing this up. I'm having a ball researching it.

The Austrian technical museum has the entire photo archive from the 1960 ISDT online: http://www.technischesmuseum.at/motorsport-in-oesterreich/veranstaltung/articleid/2135



A Polish Osa scooter:




Heinkel



And now I'll quit bugging you with odd-scoots.
Sun, 01 Sep 2013 03:46:50 +0000

Molto Verboso
07 LX50
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Molto Verboso
07 LX50
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Sun, 01 Sep 2013 03:46:50 +0000 quote
A+ for everyone !



Sun, 01 Sep 2013 05:44:04 +0000

Enthusiast
Vbc Super 150
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Vbc Super 150
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Sun, 01 Sep 2013 05:44:04 +0000 quote
This is where I learnt to ride as a kid. First on the super then on a honda c90. Both ex post office. I had one of those experiences of coming down a rise and sticking fast in a mud bog and being launched over the bars. I should have learnt by now to allow things to dry out after rain before riding there.



Mon, 02 Sep 2013 05:04:35 +0000

Molto Verboso
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Mon, 02 Sep 2013 05:04:35 +0000 quote
I like that pic of the girl n chetak mud man.
Fri, 06 Sep 2013 06:50:28 +0000

Molto Verboso
79' P210 GickSpeed Special
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Molto Verboso
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Fri, 06 Sep 2013 06:50:28 +0000 quote
Was going to stay up at the top of the parking lot and risk getting towed.
Then I thought about this thread and went for it.
Steep gravel and mud is some crazy shit on S1 tyres!
Got stuck for a few seconds a couple of times.
Going back tomorrow...
Maybe I'll get a little wild next time...

Sat, 07 Sep 2013 00:14:38 +0000

Molto Verboso
79' P210 GickSpeed Special
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79' P210 GickSpeed Special
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Sat, 07 Sep 2013 00:14:38 +0000 quote
Part 2

OP
Sat, 07 Sep 2013 04:40:37 +0000

Style Maven
'74 50s x3 '78 P200 E '84 Cosa '91 PK50XL2 '58 AllState '68 Sprint '80 50special and a '66(?) Super125
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'74 50s x3 '78 P200 E '84 Cosa '91 PK50XL2 '58 AllState '68 Sprint '80 50special and a '66(?) Super125
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Sat, 07 Sep 2013 04:40:37 +0000 quote
What would you change?
See there Will... wasn't that fun! And now you're hooked - I just love trail riding on a Vespa.
Now fold back or remove your mirror so you can go faster & I won't have to worry about you smacking it into a tree & getting it folded back for you. Ain't nobody behind you...

These pics & videos ARE getting to me, getting an itch.

So now I'm getting more & more stoked for a winter project building a frame up just for dirt riding. These are some of the random ideas that have occurred to me and I'm sure some will be stupid or impractical or doomed for some other reason, so fire away with your own suggestions or the problems you see in mine.

I was thinking about the widebody I posted earlier, it's not good enuff to restore, but maybe still too nice to make into a dirt bike. I can get a decently beat up Sprint very cheeep, with only a badly rusted floor & no motor. I was thinking of putting on a new 1/8" or 3/16" steel plate floor but leave off the reinforcing struts, to handle any ground contact. I'd also brace the frame to the column top.

The Sprint fork should be OK, I'd remove the mudguard anyway & see if I can maybe use a different shock & shock mount points to get more travel, then add a hugger. I have an electric start 150 motor w/ 10" wheels I'd try converting to 8" so I effectively get 'lower gearing' and I can run that 4.00x8 tractor tire. No kickstarter needed to catch on stuff too. Electric start is NICE when you're using both legs trying to stay upright.

At the back I'd stick the longest travel shock I could fit, moving the back of the motor down some and modify the pipe to clear. Maybe bring it over the top of the motor or over thru the toolbox cowl. High as I could route it I suppose.

I'm thinking of running all control cables outside the tunnel, on top of the floorboards tucked into the corner next to the tunnel.

Tractor seat probably. Match my back tire, right?

Needs to LOOK like a Vespa, so both cowls on & Euro Sprint headset w/ huge lite. Might cut down the floor a little, but full legshield for me.



Other ideas welcome If/when I start, I'll prob do a project thread.
Sat, 07 Sep 2013 13:06:40 +0000

Molto Verboso
79' P210 GickSpeed Special
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Sat, 07 Sep 2013 13:06:40 +0000 quote
Use a small frame.
Paint it flat black or camouflage it.
Throw on some dirt tyres.
Kit it out a little.
Sat, 07 Sep 2013 14:10:29 +0000

Hooked
1974 Rally 200
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Location: Nyack, New York
 
Hooked
1974 Rally 200
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Sat, 07 Sep 2013 14:10:29 +0000 quote
Not mine, but some nice tires for someone's 8" dirtbike.
Tue, 10 Sep 2013 20:27:21 +0000

Veni, Vidi, Posti
a not so normal vbb2 '64, a weirdo vbx '86, a not so normal pts100 '82 and a yellow sunshine '74 sprint
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Veni, Vidi, Posti
a not so normal vbb2 '64, a weirdo vbx '86, a not so normal pts100 '82 and a yellow sunshine '74 sprint
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Tue, 10 Sep 2013 20:27:21 +0000 quote
cough cough.. in case u want more

http://modernvespa.com/forum/topic71148?highlight=extreme+rally
Thu, 19 Sep 2013 08:11:36 +0000

Hooked
'80 Bajaj chetak, '05 LML
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Location: Sydney
 
Hooked
'80 Bajaj chetak, '05 LML
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Thu, 19 Sep 2013 08:11:36 +0000 quote
Thu, 19 Sep 2013 12:49:38 +0000

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vespa Px 125e
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vespa Px 125e
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Thu, 19 Sep 2013 12:49:38 +0000 quote
Amazing thread!
Tue, 15 Oct 2013 17:12:21 +0000

Molto Verboso
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Tue, 15 Oct 2013 17:12:21 +0000 quote
Found a pic of the scooter at the MX course



OP
Tue, 15 Oct 2013 17:19:03 +0000

Style Maven
'74 50s x3 '78 P200 E '84 Cosa '91 PK50XL2 '58 AllState '68 Sprint '80 50special and a '66(?) Super125
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Tue, 15 Oct 2013 17:19:03 +0000 quote
Ooooh, getting air 2 up!

Jelly..
Thu, 17 Oct 2013 03:07:25 +0000

Addicted
1967 Granturismo 177, 1979 P200E, 1974 Primavera 125 Hooligans S/C Seattle/Austin
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Thu, 17 Oct 2013 03:07:25 +0000 quote
http://thescooterdiaries.com

Check this out. This was the ultimate off-road scooter trek
Thu, 17 Oct 2013 03:20:56 +0000

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Mostly Lambrettisti
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Location: SF, CA
 
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Thu, 17 Oct 2013 03:20:56 +0000 quote
On a Lammie... ahem.
Thu, 17 Oct 2013 05:19:36 +0000

nothing at all
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nothing at all
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Thu, 17 Oct 2013 05:19:36 +0000 quote
AND!! on a LD
Thu, 17 Oct 2013 06:16:33 +0000

Addicted
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Thu, 17 Oct 2013 06:16:33 +0000 quote
Kick the guy a few bones while you're at it too
Thu, 17 Oct 2013 17:06:50 +0000

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Thu, 17 Oct 2013 17:06:50 +0000 quote
not me, my buddy jake



Thu, 17 Oct 2013 18:01:16 +0000

Mr. Clean
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Thu, 17 Oct 2013 18:01:16 +0000 quote
jsunstar wrote:
not me, my buddy jake
That's rad.. I love those tires!
Thu, 17 Oct 2013 18:28:00 +0000

Hooked
'79 P200E
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Thu, 17 Oct 2013 18:28:00 +0000 quote
SIP has some cool pics on FB



Fri, 18 Oct 2013 00:56:32 +0000

Molto Verboso
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Fri, 18 Oct 2013 00:56:32 +0000 quote
THOSE ARE SO EFFING RAD.
off to the snow races!
Fri, 18 Oct 2013 01:02:55 +0000

Mr. Clean
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Fri, 18 Oct 2013 01:02:55 +0000 quote
^^^^ That is redonkulously sweet! I completely like it!

Maybe when the snow melts there's dirt here.



Fri, 18 Oct 2013 04:10:30 +0000

Hooked
64 177
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Fri, 18 Oct 2013 04:10:30 +0000 quote
Fri, 18 Oct 2013 04:50:56 +0000

Molto Verboso
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Fri, 18 Oct 2013 04:50:56 +0000 quote
^ totally cool Jinfu! you win!
Fri, 18 Oct 2013 07:17:07 +0000

Veni, Vidi, Posti
74 Super, 75 Super, PX project, LML off-roader and new to 2018, '66 Blue Badge Smallframe
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Veni, Vidi, Posti
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Fri, 18 Oct 2013 07:17:07 +0000 quote
Fri, 18 Oct 2013 23:19:51 +0000

Veni, Vidi, Posti
74 Super, 75 Super, PX project, LML off-roader and new to 2018, '66 Blue Badge Smallframe
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Veni, Vidi, Posti
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Sat, 19 Oct 2013 04:31:57 +0000

Ossessionato
2 matching N.Z. '69 VBC Super, 177cc Racer, VespaCross Bodge, Puch SRA150, Piaggio Zip 100! & others
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Ossessionato
2 matching N.Z. '69 VBC Super, 177cc Racer, VespaCross Bodge, Puch SRA150, Piaggio Zip 100! & others
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Sat, 19 Oct 2013 04:31:57 +0000 quote
Ginchi, I'm up for that, are you game?
Sat, 19 Oct 2013 06:56:31 +0000

Veni, Vidi, Posti
74 Super, 75 Super, PX project, LML off-roader and new to 2018, '66 Blue Badge Smallframe
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Veni, Vidi, Posti
74 Super, 75 Super, PX project, LML off-roader and new to 2018, '66 Blue Badge Smallframe
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Sat, 19 Oct 2013 06:56:31 +0000 quote
SubEtherBASS wrote:
Ginchi, I'm up for that, are you game?
Location is the difficult part. I've asked a few people but nothing as yet.
Tue, 22 Oct 2013 23:25:51 +0000

Addicted
1967 Granturismo 177, 1979 P200E, 1974 Primavera 125 Hooligans S/C Seattle/Austin
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Location: Austin, TX
 
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Tue, 22 Oct 2013 23:25:51 +0000 quote
Used and abused



Thu, 07 Nov 2013 21:08:22 +0000

Mr. Clean
P,SUPER,V90, 50 Special
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Thu, 07 Nov 2013 21:08:22 +0000 quote
Quality air...



Thu, 07 Nov 2013 22:25:55 +0000

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1967 Granturismo 177, 1979 P200E, 1974 Primavera 125 Hooligans S/C Seattle/Austin
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Thu, 07 Nov 2013 22:25:55 +0000 quote
That rock looks ominous

Guys' got some cohones
Thu, 07 Nov 2013 23:10:18 +0000

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Vbc Super 150
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Vbc Super 150
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Thu, 07 Nov 2013 23:10:18 +0000 quote
Doing it in the dirt and in the air on 3 wheels.





Thu, 07 Nov 2013 23:18:10 +0000

Mr. Clean
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Thu, 07 Nov 2013 23:18:10 +0000 quote
shit that looks fun.. like smashup derby ape racing
Fri, 08 Nov 2013 13:31:10 +0000

Hooked
1961 VBB1; 1978 50 Special (no more)
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Location: Just outside the Beltway
 
Hooked
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Fri, 08 Nov 2013 13:31:10 +0000 quote
Ginch wrote:
SubEtherBASS wrote:
Ginchi, I'm up for that, are you game?
Location is the difficult part. I've asked a few people but nothing as yet.
Definitely in Italy. I have been to few of those when... well, when I did not have gray hair..
We had races for mopeds (mostly Ciaos and Garellis) and Vespe. I never raced though. Never had the money to customize a scooter for that. Now I regret of course.
Sun, 17 Nov 2013 07:28:03 +0000

Hooked
1980 Vespa P200e - 1962 Lambretta TV175 - 1977 Vespa Rally 200 - 1990 Honda S50
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Location: South Florida, USA
 
Hooked
1980 Vespa P200e - 1962 Lambretta TV175 - 1977 Vespa Rally 200 - 1990 Honda S50
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Sun, 17 Nov 2013 07:28:03 +0000 quote
mud
Sun, 17 Nov 2013 09:54:49 +0000

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Sprint 150
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Location: Cairo, Egypt.
 
Enthusiast
Sprint 150
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Sun, 17 Nov 2013 09:54:49 +0000 quote
Could this trip be done on a Vespa? What would happen as your altitude increased, need to change jets?
Sun, 17 Nov 2013 10:17:25 +0000

Enthusiast
Sprint 150
Joined: Thu, 31 Oct 2013 00:30:40 +0000
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Location: Cairo, Egypt.
 
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Sprint 150
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