Sat Aug 31, 2013 4:21 pm

Molto Verboso
borrowed time
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Location: inland empire
 
Molto Verboso
borrowed time
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Location: inland empire
Sat Aug 31, 2013 4:21 pm linkquote
Oh Snap!
I don't have a lammy, but i'm going to do the knobbies and maybe a straight bar weld on the scoot. I'm so into this thread! I'm going totally opposite direction of Vader's clean scoots. Lord know all the imperfections my scoot has, now if it's covered with dirt and mud.......I can just blame everything on that!

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Sat Aug 31, 2013 4:28 pm

Mr. Clean
P,SUPER,V90, 50 Special
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Posts: 10207
Location: This is't my locker!
 
Mr. Clean
P,SUPER,V90, 50 Special
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Sat Aug 31, 2013 4:28 pm linkquote
Rufi if you go knobbies and off road the chit out of it, you'll have not only my blessing, but I'll buy your 1st box of bandaids!, and I'll buy you some bad ass off road grips! do it man! we'll take it to the bear with the 185!
Sat Aug 31, 2013 5:27 pm

Enthusiast
'69 Vespa Sprint, '59 Lambretta LI125 (S1)
Joined: 11 Feb 2013
Posts: 90
Location: Louisville, KY, USA
 
Enthusiast
'69 Vespa Sprint, '59 Lambretta LI125 (S1)
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Posts: 90
Location: Louisville, KY, USA
Sat Aug 31, 2013 5:27 pm linkquote
Thanks for bringing this up. I'm having a ball researching it.

The Austrian technical museum has the entire photo archive from the 1960 ISDT online: http://www.technischesmuseum.at/motorsport-in-oesterreich/veranstaltung/articleid/2135



A Polish Osa scooter:




Heinkel



And now I'll quit bugging you with odd-scoots.
Sat Aug 31, 2013 7:46 pm

Molto Verboso
07 LX50
Joined: 10 Feb 2013
Posts: 1977

 
Molto Verboso
07 LX50
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Posts: 1977

Sat Aug 31, 2013 7:46 pm linkquote
A+ for everyone !



Sat Aug 31, 2013 9:44 pm

Enthusiast
Vbc Super 150
Joined: 07 Jul 2011
Posts: 94
Location: Australia
 
Enthusiast
Vbc Super 150
Joined: 07 Jul 2011
Posts: 94
Location: Australia
Sat Aug 31, 2013 9:44 pm linkquote
This is where I learnt to ride as a kid. First on the super then on a honda c90. Both ex post office. I had one of those experiences of coming down a rise and sticking fast in a mud bog and being launched over the bars. I should have learnt by now to allow things to dry out after rain before riding there.



Sun Sep 01, 2013 9:04 pm

Molto Verboso
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Location: inland empire
 
Molto Verboso
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Sun Sep 01, 2013 9:04 pm linkquote
I like that pic of the girl n chetak mud man.
Thu Sep 05, 2013 10:50 pm

Molto Verboso
79' P210 GickSpeed Special
Joined: 23 Sep 2012
Posts: 1407
Location: Limbo
 
Molto Verboso
79' P210 GickSpeed Special
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Location: Limbo
Thu Sep 05, 2013 10:50 pm linkquote
Was going to stay up at the top of the parking lot and risk getting towed.
Then I thought about this thread and went for it.
Steep gravel and mud is some crazy shit on S1 tyres!
Got stuck for a few seconds a couple of times.
Going back tomorrow...
Maybe I'll get a little wild next time...

Fri Sep 06, 2013 4:14 pm

Molto Verboso
79' P210 GickSpeed Special
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Posts: 1407
Location: Limbo
 
Molto Verboso
79' P210 GickSpeed Special
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Location: Limbo
Fri Sep 06, 2013 4:14 pm linkquote
Part 2

Fri Sep 06, 2013 8:40 pm

Style Maven
'74 50s x3 '78 P200 E '84 Cosa '91 PK50XL2 '58 AllState '68 Sprint '80 50special and a '66(?) Super125
Joined: 22 Nov 2010
Posts: 8444
Location: seattle/athens
 
Style Maven
'74 50s x3 '78 P200 E '84 Cosa '91 PK50XL2 '58 AllState '68 Sprint '80 50special and a '66(?) Super125
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Posts: 8444
Location: seattle/athens
Fri Sep 06, 2013 8:40 pm linkquote
What would you change?
See there Will... wasn't that fun! And now you're hooked - I just love trail riding on a Vespa.
Now fold back or remove your mirror so you can go faster & I won't have to worry about you smacking it into a tree & getting it folded back for you. Ain't nobody behind you...

These pics & videos ARE getting to me, getting an itch.

So now I'm getting more & more stoked for a winter project building a frame up just for dirt riding. These are some of the random ideas that have occurred to me and I'm sure some will be stupid or impractical or doomed for some other reason, so fire away with your own suggestions or the problems you see in mine.

I was thinking about the widebody I posted earlier, it's not good enuff to restore, but maybe still too nice to make into a dirt bike. I can get a decently beat up Sprint very cheeep, with only a badly rusted floor & no motor. I was thinking of putting on a new 1/8" or 3/16" steel plate floor but leave off the reinforcing struts, to handle any ground contact. I'd also brace the frame to the column top.

The Sprint fork should be OK, I'd remove the mudguard anyway & see if I can maybe use a different shock & shock mount points to get more travel, then add a hugger. I have an electric start 150 motor w/ 10" wheels I'd try converting to 8" so I effectively get 'lower gearing' and I can run that 4.00x8 tractor tire. No kickstarter needed to catch on stuff too. Electric start is NICE when you're using both legs trying to stay upright.

At the back I'd stick the longest travel shock I could fit, moving the back of the motor down some and modify the pipe to clear. Maybe bring it over the top of the motor or over thru the toolbox cowl. High as I could route it I suppose.

I'm thinking of running all control cables outside the tunnel, on top of the floorboards tucked into the corner next to the tunnel.

Tractor seat probably. Match my back tire, right?

Needs to LOOK like a Vespa, so both cowls on & Euro Sprint headset w/ huge lite. Might cut down the floor a little, but full legshield for me.



Other ideas welcome If/when I start, I'll prob do a project thread.
Sat Sep 07, 2013 5:06 am

Molto Verboso
79' P210 GickSpeed Special
Joined: 23 Sep 2012
Posts: 1407
Location: Limbo
 
Molto Verboso
79' P210 GickSpeed Special
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Location: Limbo
Sat Sep 07, 2013 5:06 am linkquote
Use a small frame.
Paint it flat black or camouflage it.
Throw on some dirt tyres.
Kit it out a little.
Sat Sep 07, 2013 6:10 am

Hooked
1974 Rally 200
Joined: 06 Jul 2012
Posts: 340
Location: Nyack, New York
 
Hooked
1974 Rally 200
Joined: 06 Jul 2012
Posts: 340
Location: Nyack, New York
Sat Sep 07, 2013 6:10 am linkquote
Not mine, but some nice tires for someone's 8" dirtbike.
Tue Sep 10, 2013 12:27 pm

Veni, Vidi, Posti
a not so normal vbb2 '64, a weirdo vbx '86, a not so normal pts100 '82 and a red lipstick '74 sprint
Joined: 15 Jun 2009
Posts: 5762
Location: Indo
 
Veni, Vidi, Posti
a not so normal vbb2 '64, a weirdo vbx '86, a not so normal pts100 '82 and a red lipstick '74 sprint
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Posts: 5762
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Tue Sep 10, 2013 12:27 pm linkquote
cough cough.. in case u want more

http://modernvespa.com/forum/topic71148?highlight=extreme+rally
Thu Sep 19, 2013 12:11 am

Hooked
'80 Bajaj chetak, '05 LML
Joined: 19 Dec 2010
Posts: 486
Location: Sydney
 
Hooked
'80 Bajaj chetak, '05 LML
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Posts: 486
Location: Sydney
Thu Sep 19, 2013 12:11 am linkquote
Thu Sep 19, 2013 4:49 am

Enthusiast
vespa Px 125e
Joined: 04 Mar 2009
Posts: 83
Location: Kingston, Surrey
 
Enthusiast
vespa Px 125e
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Posts: 83
Location: Kingston, Surrey
Thu Sep 19, 2013 4:49 am linkquote
Amazing thread!
Tue Oct 15, 2013 9:12 am

Molto Verboso
borrowed time
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Posts: 1134
Location: inland empire
 
Molto Verboso
borrowed time
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Location: inland empire
Tue Oct 15, 2013 9:12 am linkquote
Found a pic of the scooter at the MX course



Tue Oct 15, 2013 9:19 am

Style Maven
'74 50s x3 '78 P200 E '84 Cosa '91 PK50XL2 '58 AllState '68 Sprint '80 50special and a '66(?) Super125
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Location: seattle/athens
 
Style Maven
'74 50s x3 '78 P200 E '84 Cosa '91 PK50XL2 '58 AllState '68 Sprint '80 50special and a '66(?) Super125
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Tue Oct 15, 2013 9:19 am linkquote
Ooooh, getting air 2 up!

Jelly..
Wed Oct 16, 2013 7:07 pm

Addicted
1967 Granturismo 177, 1979 P200E, 1974 Primavera 125 Hooligans S/C Seattle/Austin
Joined: 11 Mar 2013
Posts: 668
Location: Austin, TX
 
Addicted
1967 Granturismo 177, 1979 P200E, 1974 Primavera 125 Hooligans S/C Seattle/Austin
Joined: 11 Mar 2013
Posts: 668
Location: Austin, TX
Wed Oct 16, 2013 7:07 pm linkquote
http://thescooterdiaries.com

Check this out. This was the ultimate off-road scooter trek
Wed Oct 16, 2013 7:20 pm

Addicted
Mostly Lambrettisti
Joined: 13 Oct 2012
Posts: 648
Location: SF, CA
 
Addicted
Mostly Lambrettisti
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Posts: 648
Location: SF, CA
Wed Oct 16, 2013 7:20 pm linkquote
On a Lammie... ahem.
Wed Oct 16, 2013 9:19 pm

nothing at all
Joined: 14 Nov 2008
Posts: 9657
Location: westla
 
nothing at all
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Posts: 9657
Location: westla
Wed Oct 16, 2013 9:19 pm linkquote
AND!! on a LD
Wed Oct 16, 2013 10:16 pm

Addicted
1967 Granturismo 177, 1979 P200E, 1974 Primavera 125 Hooligans S/C Seattle/Austin
Joined: 11 Mar 2013
Posts: 668
Location: Austin, TX
 
Addicted
1967 Granturismo 177, 1979 P200E, 1974 Primavera 125 Hooligans S/C Seattle/Austin
Joined: 11 Mar 2013
Posts: 668
Location: Austin, TX
Wed Oct 16, 2013 10:16 pm linkquote
Kick the guy a few bones while you're at it too
Thu Oct 17, 2013 9:06 am

Addicted
06 GT200, Flip flops
Joined: 09 Jun 2012
Posts: 533
Location: Cayo Hueso: an Island at the end of the road
 
Addicted
06 GT200, Flip flops
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Posts: 533
Location: Cayo Hueso: an Island at the end of the road
Thu Oct 17, 2013 9:06 am linkquote
not me, my buddy jake



Thu Oct 17, 2013 10:01 am

Mr. Clean
P,SUPER,V90, 50 Special
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Posts: 10207
Location: This is't my locker!
 
Mr. Clean
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Thu Oct 17, 2013 10:01 am linkquote
jsunstar wrote:
not me, my buddy jake
That's rad.. I love those tires!
Thu Oct 17, 2013 10:28 am

Hooked
'79 P200E
Joined: 02 Jul 2013
Posts: 198
Location: Homewood, AL
 
Hooked
'79 P200E
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Posts: 198
Location: Homewood, AL
Thu Oct 17, 2013 10:28 am linkquote
SIP has some cool pics on FB



Thu Oct 17, 2013 4:56 pm

Molto Verboso
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Location: inland empire
 
Molto Verboso
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Thu Oct 17, 2013 4:56 pm linkquote
THOSE ARE SO EFFING RAD.
off to the snow races!
Thu Oct 17, 2013 5:02 pm

Mr. Clean
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Thu Oct 17, 2013 5:02 pm linkquote
^^^^ That is redonkulously sweet! I completely like it!

Maybe when the snow melts there's dirt here.



Thu Oct 17, 2013 8:10 pm

Hooked
64 177
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Posts: 103

 
Hooked
64 177
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Posts: 103

Thu Oct 17, 2013 8:10 pm linkquote
Thu Oct 17, 2013 8:50 pm

Molto Verboso
borrowed time
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Location: inland empire
 
Molto Verboso
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Thu Oct 17, 2013 8:50 pm linkquote
^ totally cool Jinfu! you win!
Thu Oct 17, 2013 11:17 pm

Veni, Vidi, Posti
74 Super, 75 Super, PX project, LML off-roader and new to 2018, '66 Blue Badge Smallframe
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Location: Victoria, Australia
 
Veni, Vidi, Posti
74 Super, 75 Super, PX project, LML off-roader and new to 2018, '66 Blue Badge Smallframe
Joined: 30 Nov 2011
Posts: 8109
Location: Victoria, Australia
Thu Oct 17, 2013 11:17 pm linkquote
Fri Oct 18, 2013 3:19 pm

Veni, Vidi, Posti
74 Super, 75 Super, PX project, LML off-roader and new to 2018, '66 Blue Badge Smallframe
Joined: 30 Nov 2011
Posts: 8109
Location: Victoria, Australia
 
Veni, Vidi, Posti
74 Super, 75 Super, PX project, LML off-roader and new to 2018, '66 Blue Badge Smallframe
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Posts: 8109
Location: Victoria, Australia
Fri Oct 18, 2013 3:19 pm linkquote


Fri Oct 18, 2013 8:31 pm

Ossessionato
2 matching N.Z. '69 VBC Super, 177cc Racer, VespaCross Bodge, Puch SRA150, Piaggio Zip 100! & others
Joined: 26 May 2013
Posts: 4189
Location: That bushfire place
 
Ossessionato
2 matching N.Z. '69 VBC Super, 177cc Racer, VespaCross Bodge, Puch SRA150, Piaggio Zip 100! & others
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Posts: 4189
Location: That bushfire place
Fri Oct 18, 2013 8:31 pm linkquote
Ginchi, I'm up for that, are you game?
Fri Oct 18, 2013 10:56 pm

Veni, Vidi, Posti
74 Super, 75 Super, PX project, LML off-roader and new to 2018, '66 Blue Badge Smallframe
Joined: 30 Nov 2011
Posts: 8109
Location: Victoria, Australia
 
Veni, Vidi, Posti
74 Super, 75 Super, PX project, LML off-roader and new to 2018, '66 Blue Badge Smallframe
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Posts: 8109
Location: Victoria, Australia
Fri Oct 18, 2013 10:56 pm linkquote
SubEtherBASS wrote:
Ginchi, I'm up for that, are you game?
Location is the difficult part. I've asked a few people but nothing as yet.
Tue Oct 22, 2013 3:25 pm

Addicted
1967 Granturismo 177, 1979 P200E, 1974 Primavera 125 Hooligans S/C Seattle/Austin
Joined: 11 Mar 2013
Posts: 668
Location: Austin, TX
 
Addicted
1967 Granturismo 177, 1979 P200E, 1974 Primavera 125 Hooligans S/C Seattle/Austin
Joined: 11 Mar 2013
Posts: 668
Location: Austin, TX
Tue Oct 22, 2013 3:25 pm linkquote
Used and abused



Thu Nov 07, 2013 1:08 pm

Mr. Clean
P,SUPER,V90, 50 Special
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Mr. Clean
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Thu Nov 07, 2013 1:08 pm linkquote
Quality air...



Thu Nov 07, 2013 2:25 pm

Addicted
1967 Granturismo 177, 1979 P200E, 1974 Primavera 125 Hooligans S/C Seattle/Austin
Joined: 11 Mar 2013
Posts: 668
Location: Austin, TX
 
Addicted
1967 Granturismo 177, 1979 P200E, 1974 Primavera 125 Hooligans S/C Seattle/Austin
Joined: 11 Mar 2013
Posts: 668
Location: Austin, TX
Thu Nov 07, 2013 2:25 pm linkquote
That rock looks ominous

Guys' got some cohones
Thu Nov 07, 2013 3:10 pm

Enthusiast
Vbc Super 150
Joined: 07 Jul 2011
Posts: 94
Location: Australia
 
Enthusiast
Vbc Super 150
Joined: 07 Jul 2011
Posts: 94
Location: Australia
Thu Nov 07, 2013 3:10 pm linkquote
Doing it in the dirt and in the air on 3 wheels.





Thu Nov 07, 2013 3:18 pm

Mr. Clean
P,SUPER,V90, 50 Special
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Posts: 10207
Location: This is't my locker!
 
Mr. Clean
P,SUPER,V90, 50 Special
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Posts: 10207
Location: This is't my locker!
Thu Nov 07, 2013 3:18 pm linkquote
shit that looks fun.. like smashup derby ape racing
Fri Nov 08, 2013 5:31 am

Hooked
1961 VBB1; 1978 50 Special (no more)
Joined: 23 Apr 2012
Posts: 342
Location: Just outside the Beltway
 
Hooked
1961 VBB1; 1978 50 Special (no more)
Joined: 23 Apr 2012
Posts: 342
Location: Just outside the Beltway
Fri Nov 08, 2013 5:31 am linkquote
Ginch wrote:
SubEtherBASS wrote:
Ginchi, I'm up for that, are you game?
Location is the difficult part. I've asked a few people but nothing as yet.
Definitely in Italy. I have been to few of those when... well, when I did not have gray hair..
We had races for mopeds (mostly Ciaos and Garellis) and Vespe. I never raced though. Never had the money to customize a scooter for that. Now I regret of course.
Sat Nov 16, 2013 11:28 pm

Hooked
1980 Vespa P200e - 1962 Lambretta TV175 - 1995 Vespa PX208 Polini - 1990 Honda S50
Joined: 10 Jan 2011
Posts: 388
Location: South Florida, USA
 
Hooked
1980 Vespa P200e - 1962 Lambretta TV175 - 1995 Vespa PX208 Polini - 1990 Honda S50
Joined: 10 Jan 2011
Posts: 388
Location: South Florida, USA
Sat Nov 16, 2013 11:28 pm linkquote
mud
Sun Nov 17, 2013 1:54 am

Enthusiast
Sprint 150
Joined: 30 Oct 2013
Posts: 69
Location: Cairo, Egypt.
 
Enthusiast
Sprint 150
Joined: 30 Oct 2013
Posts: 69
Location: Cairo, Egypt.
Sun Nov 17, 2013 1:54 am linkquote
Could this trip be done on a Vespa? What would happen as your altitude increased, need to change jets?
Sun Nov 17, 2013 2:17 am

Enthusiast
Sprint 150
Joined: 30 Oct 2013
Posts: 69
Location: Cairo, Egypt.
 
Enthusiast
Sprint 150
Joined: 30 Oct 2013
Posts: 69
Location: Cairo, Egypt.
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