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I remember on my pre-2000 Ducati the sidestand was also self-retracting like on my Vespa GTS. There was an aftermarket fix, like a bolt or spring, pr something. Is there anything out there to make Vespa side stand not to spring back when bike is lifted? Aftermarket stand perhaps? Thanks. Dan
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some people remove 1 of the springs- this disables the self retracting feature
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From reading the past posts, welding a small block of metal in the cutout seem to help too.
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Any update on this topic? I too am having an issue the sidestand retracting back on its own. If ever i end up parking somewhere on its side and someone happens to brush by the scoot, chances of the bike falling over can happen. I want a fix on this, maybe to a manual mode of retract...

I see a lot of Side stands for sale on eBay, and i was wondering if this is a fix?
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Why not use the center stand wouldn't that be safer?
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I agree, if what you are saying is...
that using the side stand is a situational sorta thing, and that there are situations in which the side stand is preferred, and some where the center stand makes more sense.
LarryMK wrote:
Why not use the center stand wouldn't that be safer?
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sometimes a centre stand situation isn't practical. can we possibly get a proper fix the the removal of the retractable problem please.
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so I can clearly see that a self-retracting side stand could be risky to the bike. Only having a center stand I have not had this issue. i have thought about adding a side stand but have seen some threads that were sort of down on it. So I am curious of your take on the side stand, when is it better then the center stand, etc. Thanks


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For me.....
......I like putting the GTS on the side stand to get on, after taking it off the center stand. Sometimes it'll hit the pavement in a hard corner but (for me) I really have to be laying the scooter over. I think it's the side stand...maybe it's the center stand dragging

Going to have my side stand modified to stay down and actually be able to hold the GTS up securely. Will post pix when it's done. Went thru the same thing with the BMW, but aftermarket solved the problem.
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SB wrote:
some people remove 1 of the springs- this disables the self retracting feature
CAUTION: Removing one of the two springs can lead to disaster if the lone spring breaks or slips off for some reason. That's why they gave two springs.

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I can't remember exactly how they worked but my previous motorbikes, a HD Sportster and a Honda Deauville both had side-stands that locked in the down position by virtue of taking the weight of the bike. There was a lug on the stand that engaged with a slot on the bracket, disengaging by the retracting spring tension as the bike was hoiked upright. You still had to manually retract the stand though, it wasn't self-retracting.

Does that make sense?

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Kruella_DV wrote:
a HD Sportster and a Honda Deauville both had side-stands that locked in the down position by virtue of taking the weight of the bike. .
Hnnda and the rest of the Japanese use an electrical switch to make sure you don't ride off with our sidestand down. When the Italian mousetrap factory closed, Vespa hired their chief engineer to solve the same problem.
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If you want a proper locking side stand, the better method is to install a new spring peg like the method shown in the previous post. Drill the hole and have the screw welded in place. I did this a couple years ago and my side stand is quite dependable. I can leave the scooter running while on the side stand and walk away to close the garage door. My dealer parked my scoot on a slight downhill and left it on the side stand. I don't recommend that! I still prefer to park on the flat or up hill when I use a side stand. Is a non-retracting side stand dangerous? Maybe. Will you drive away with the stand down? Probably, I do sometimes until it scrapes and pops up. But then, some say motorcycles are dangerous and we should drive a cars instead.

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