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As part of a disc conversion on a 64 gl150 I picked up one of SIP's modified steering columns. As most know, the mudguard does not seat nicely on the steering column, as it does on the original. To correct this, and avoid the stacked washer method, I was thinking of using a slow set epoxy or similar that can be pressed between the fender and fender seat, fender can be wiggled and jiggled to sit just right and centered, then let it cure. When done the hope is that I would have a nice formed seat for the mudguard to sit on. Anyone try this? Any thoughts?
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I'd be worried about it cracking apart and I don't like the idea of "gluing/welding" it together"
The body work guy who welded my fender made a spacer... I'd make a spacer again but probably cut one out of a small aluminum block if I did it again.
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I'd be worried about it cracking apart and I don't like the idea of "gluing/welding" it together"
Ya I should clarify..,I would not to permanently marry them, thinking maybe wax paper or something between epoxy and mudguard. It's got to remain removable.

I thought about the cracking too. You have a photo of the spacer your guy built?
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I don't have a pic and i out of town, but he basically used washers to get the right fit and just welded them together. crude, but not loose like loose washers.. but if I do it again I'll make one like i said.. out of a little block of aluminum.
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i agree with the aluminium idea and would make one out of balsa or similar first
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aluminium
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c#ck! thats not how i spelled the A word
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I'm not sure if the PK fork is different than the P/PX but the one I fitted to the Super I ground down the mount rather than build it up. But a PK fork may have a larger gap naturally between the horncast and the normal top of the mounting pad... in which case spacing it up makes sense.
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It'd be good if there was a removable front guard that came apart at the back. I dropped my scoot awhile back but couldn't be arsed removing the steering column to repair the guard.
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It'd be good if there was a removable front guard that came apart at the back. I dropped my scoot awhile back but couldn't be arsed removing the steering column to repair the guard.
No Bob, you don't get away with it that easily! It's a Thing you have to do... a rite of passage, a cathartic experience! Keep a hankie at hand to wipe up the tears and blood.
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I know mate. I don't think I'm ready yet.
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Ginch wrote:
I'm not sure if the PK fork is different than the P/PX but the one I fitted to the Super I ground down the mount rather than build it up. But a PK fork may have a larger gap naturally between the horncast and the normal top of the mounting pad... in which case spacing it up makes sense.
It is. For me fitting the mudguard was not the hardest but probably the most time consuming part of the process.

One of the nice things is that the steering stops are held in with a grub screw so you can slide the mudguard down and put the stop in instead of doing the Houdini contortionist act.

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For me fitting the mudguard was not the hardest but probably the most time consuming part of the process.
Same...not exactly difficult but time consuming. I used my mtb stand and a laser level to get the fender centered on column, hanging plumb over the assembly, and with the right forward rotation so as to not rub on the legshield. Worked well. Once all is set, The gap between the fender and the fender seat is different at each of the three mounting holes....stacked washer method. I like the alum spacer idea, the right height can be cut and then the top shaped to match the fender curve at that point.
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I know mate. I don't think I'm ready yet.
I don't think anyone is ever ready for it the first time. You look at it and go....hey...that should come right off...then reality sets in.
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Ginch wrote:
I'm not sure if the PK fork is different than the P/PX but the one I fitted to the Super I ground down the mount rather than build it up. But a PK fork may have a larger gap naturally between the horncast and the normal top of the mounting pad... in which case spacing it up makes sense.
One other tip with the SIP PK fork is that if you want the arm to sit lower an ET4 front shock will fit right in.
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Damn....how hard should I pulling on the hub to break it loose off the spindle? Time for paint
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Ginch wrote:
I'm not sure if the PK fork is different than the P/PX but the one I fitted to the Super I ground down the mount rather than build it up. But a PK fork may have a larger gap naturally between the horncast and the normal top of the mounting pad... in which case spacing it up makes sense.
One other tip with the SIP PK fork is that if you want the arm to sit lower an ET4 front shock will fit right in.
That's basically what a friend of mine did on his. PX fork fitted to his Super, shorter PK shock lowers the height by about 45mm.
Oh and he used the grind-the-pad method of fitting the guard.

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