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What you guys using?

I found that Craftsman Tool sells this one.

http://www.sears.com/schwaben-brake-bleeder-wrench/p-00940578000P?prdNo=5&blockNo=5&blockType=G5
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That's a nice looking wrench. I've been using an ordinary 6-point box-end, since the MP3 bleeders don't need a ton of torque, nor do they present a clearance problem. Avoid 12-pointers for this.
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Not needed, that is for hard to reach bleed screws.
Regular 6 point wrench works fine.
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WEB-Tech wrote:
Not needed, that is for hard to reach bleed screws.
Regular 6 point wrench works fine.
I must be missing something, must be the process I am using.

I have a 3/16 clear hose on the bleeder nipple going to a one-way valve through another hose to a trash water bottle.
Need a easy way to open to bleeder, squeeze the trigger multiple times and close. I didn't have a good 11mm wrench to do this. The one I did have is an open end wrench and you really can't get a good hold to open and close on the front of the MP3/250. So this one at Sears looks like it will solve my problem it is bent to get around the MP3/250 obstructions.
I hope? I will find out when I get it and try it...

My observation, the minute you open up that bleeder, you can get air back into the system through the threads possibly?
I wish there was a replacement bleeder where these can be replaced.

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klaborde wrote:
My observation, the minute you open up that bleeder, you can get air back into the system through the threads possibly?
Another reason why reverse bleeding works well.
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jimc wrote:
klaborde wrote:
My observation, the minute you open up that bleeder, you can get air back into the system through the threads possibly?
Another reason why reverse bleeding works well.
Yep, 60 cc syringe and some hose worked great for me.
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WEB-Tech wrote:
jimc wrote:
klaborde wrote:
My observation, the minute you open up that bleeder, you can get air back into the system through the threads possibly?
Another reason why reverse bleeding works well.
Yep, 60 cc syringe and some hose worked great for me.
I'll 3rd this method too.
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old as dirt wrote:
WEB-Tech wrote:
jimc wrote:
klaborde wrote:
My observation, the minute you open up that bleeder, you can get air back into the system through the threads possibly?
Another reason why reverse bleeding works well.
Yep, 60 cc syringe and some hose worked great for me.
I'll 3rd this method too.
Please explain the steps in using the 60 cc Syringe doing the front wheels?

Thanks,
Keith
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klaborde wrote:
old as dirt wrote:
WEB-Tech wrote:
jimc wrote:
klaborde wrote:
My observation, the minute you open up that bleeder, you can get air back into the system through the threads possibly?
Another reason why reverse bleeding works well.
Yep, 60 cc syringe and some hose worked great for me.
I'll 3rd this method too.
Please explain the steps in using the 60 cc Syringe doing the front wheels?

Thanks,
Keith
I don't have a syringe but use an aircraft style pressure bleeder. a container that has a pump and a hose to the nipple. then fill from the bottom up to the master cyl. be sure to remove the fluid from the master cyl every couple pumps.
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old as dirt wrote:
klaborde wrote:
old as dirt wrote:
WEB-Tech wrote:
jimc wrote:
klaborde wrote:
My observation, the minute you open up that bleeder, you can get air back into the system through the threads possibly?
Another reason why reverse bleeding works well.
Yep, 60 cc syringe and some hose worked great for me.
I'll 3rd this method too.
Please explain the steps in using the 60 cc Syringe doing the front wheels?

Thanks,
Keith
I don't have a syringe but use an aircraft style pressure bleeder. a container that has a pump and a hose to the nipple. then fill from the bottom up to the master cyl. be sure to remove the fluid from the master cyl every couple pumps.
Ok, that makes sense...
Scooterwest has a video doing similar with a bleede
R that is preasurized witha air compressor. They have to meep sucking out the resovoior. I didnt know you could do same with a syringe.
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klaborde wrote:
old as dirt wrote:
klaborde wrote:
old as dirt wrote:
WEB-Tech wrote:
jimc wrote:
klaborde wrote:
My observation, the minute you open up that bleeder, you can get air back into the system through the threads possibly?
Another reason why reverse bleeding works well.
Yep, 60 cc syringe and some hose worked great for me.
I'll 3rd this method too.
Please explain the steps in using the 60 cc Syringe doing the front wheels?

Thanks,
Keith
I don't have a syringe but use an aircraft style pressure bleeder. a container that has a pump and a hose to the nipple. then fill from the bottom up to the master cyl. be sure to remove the fluid from the master cyl every couple pumps.
Ok, that makes sense...
Scooterwest has a video doing similar with a bleede
R that is preasurized witha air compressor. They have to meep sucking out the resovoior. I didnt know you could do same with a syringe.
what they use is a vaccum pump. pulling the fluid from the top down. A pressure fill is pushing fluid from the bottom up.
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old as dirt wrote:
klaborde wrote:
old as dirt wrote:
klaborde wrote:
old as dirt wrote:
WEB-Tech wrote:
jimc wrote:
klaborde wrote:
My observation, the minute you open up that bleeder, you can get air back into the system through the threads possibly?
Another reason why reverse bleeding works well.
Yep, 60 cc syringe and some hose worked great for me.
I'll 3rd this method too.
Please explain the steps in using the 60 cc Syringe doing the front wheels?

Thanks,
Keith
I don't have a syringe but use an aircraft style pressure bleeder. a container that has a pump and a hose to the nipple. then fill from the bottom up to the master cyl. be sure to remove the fluid from the master cyl every couple pumps.
Ok, that makes sense...
Scooterwest has a video doing similar with a bleede
R that is preasurized witha air compressor. They have to meep sucking out the resovoior. I didnt know you could do same with a syringe.
what they use is a vaccum pump. pulling the fluid from the top down. A pressure fill is pushing fluid from the bottom up.
Got it !
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