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heres a mockup of a side by side comparison.
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The Lambretta is clearly superior in stance.
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The Lambretta is superior IMHO.
I think so too.. I wish the pictures had been taken at the same focal length.. the scomadi probaly doesn't look as fat in the rear in real life.. the pic is at a wider angle than the Lambretta.. I think the Lambretta will still look better, even if the comparison pics were spot on equal.
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from what i've read the 'traditional' scomadi/sandertune bikes sit higher, but really weren't much different. heres the best pic i can find for an modern/classic comparison. looks better than that god awful LN/classic comparison.

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i thought for a minute, until i did more research that they redesigned the sidepanels, but i dug a little and found a head on (back on? head on? ass on?) shot of their third official build (scomadi no.3) which was reviewed/long-term tested and it doesnt look too much different.

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the angle of the 2013 EICMA makes it look like the panels are wider than the floorboards, but they're likely the same panels.
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Those rear turn signals are atrocious. I appreciate what they are trying to do, but the shape is all wrong and does not suit the cut of the Lambretta body style.

Here fixed that for them. It fits the aggressive footprint a bit better than those insect googley eyes and does not break the lines of the bike.
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Of course DOT approoved signals would extend beyond the bodywork any how.
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Of course DOT approoved signals would extend beyond the bodywork any how.
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Of course DOT approoved signals would extend beyond the bodywork any how.
Yup

By the time they make it here those things'll be 3 feet apart
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Continuing with the theme. The Dactek Lambretta looks awesome with a KTM engine. Saw one similar for sale a couple of years ago for 3500 pounds.

www.motorcyclenews.com/mcn/news/newsresults/first-rides-tests/2009/june/jun0509-ktm-lambretta-first-test/
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That was from 09,the KTM 250.Wonder how it hold up?
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Not long now...
Reviving this thread a year on, because its almost here, and creating a lively debate on the UK Scootering scene...

http://www.scomadi.co.uk/

Facebook page has pictures of the production line - it's going to happen.. https://www.facebook.com/scomadi
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i follow them on facebook, its nice to see lambrettas on a product line in some capacity again.
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Some day I'd love to get a Scomadi.. but for now I'm hoping to settle for the Stainless fork they make for my Jet200 (they make 'em for other models of Lambretta as well) all stainless and really nice.
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So they had to put a Vespa motor in to bring back a Lambretta. Oh the irony. But I want!
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This old thread. Someone call Bob Vila. I don't find the mass-produced Chinese/English produced scoot to exiting but I'd kill for one of the original hand-built models back when Scomadi was a start up - if I could afford one.

Like this one. Incredibili!!
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I've always quite liked Scomadis. Wouldn't buy one though.
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Some day I'd love to get a Scomadi.. but for now I'm hoping to settle for the Stainless fork they make for my Jet200 (they make 'em for other models of Lambretta as well) all stainless and really nice.
it's always bugged me that while they make modified lambretta forks for their original Scomadi bikes, as well as with the various custom autos they build - accomodating typhoon tires and such, that the Scomadi Forks they offer are standard forks and not the wider alternative: which I'd gladly buy.
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A made in China scooter in the 150 cc class can be bought for $995. I don't want to ride a made in China scoot but I can't see Vespa selling tons of GTS's either.
I think you are lacking imagination. The GTS has been a very successful model for Piaggio and the 250/300 Quasar engine is among the best.

All this talk about retro classics. Would someone buy a New Beetle, or a Mini, or a Fiat 500 if it had an engine of uncertain specifications and unknown reliability made by the Wu Fan engine and screen door company? Not me.
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Email from PM / Scomadi recieved yesterday..
An Update from Paul Melici (PM Tuning) and
Co-Founder of Scomadi UK
You are receiving this email because you have emailed PM Tuning or are a customer of PM Tuning and follower of it products. I would like to introduce you to the Scomadi 300cc model due to be out in June 2015. You may be not interested in this particular scooter but may be interested in the wider Scomadi goals and what we are doing.
We will be updating everyone who has inquired about the Scomadi 50 and 125's shortly. Also if you have any specific questions you would like answering then please let us know.
The first 100 Scomadi 300's are being hand built in the UK and will be available in the UK in June 2015. The base cost of these scooters will be around £4,399 (To be confirmed). The first 100 carry a £500 extra price tag because they are being hand built in the UK at the Lancashire factory with components being shipped directly hence the small increase in cost.
These scooters as well as other offers can be secured through the IndieGoGo platform we are using. You can secure your Scomadi 300 by going here and putting down a £500 pledge, this gets you on the priority list for delivery in June 2015.
The second wave of production scooters is estimated to be at least 3 months after the June date, again this will be a small run and are expected to be sold fairly quickly also.
We have had a few concerns from the public that Scomadi are having problems in producing the 300 hence the IndieGoGo campaign. This could not be further from the truth. Scomadi are producing Scooters but in limited quantities as you will appreciate a mass production run is very expensive.
The idea behind the IndieGoGo campaign is to see if the scooter community would get behind and support Scomadi so they would be able to produce more and faster to meet demands by the public. You will appreciate Scomadi are a small company and don't have the deep pockets of other larger automotive companies. However, with or without the support of the IndieGoGo campaign the Scooters will be getting built and delivered - that is certain.
If you are interested in securing one of the first 100 scooters then please visit the IndieGoGo site and secure your scooter with a £500 pledge. As I write this 38 have already gone.
Many thanks for reading and your continued support.
Paul Melici


I am quite tempted. I will be in the market for a new bike next year anyway..
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Looks like a "No!" loud and clear.
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The beauty of it (to me at least) is that it looks just like a Lambretta


But it's not a Lambretta


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So in the UK there is quite a lot of interest in these Lambretts copies and I went to view one , and to be honest was not impressed with the plastic body work , however Vespa could perhaps learn something about this surge in nostalgia how about a re worked GS or a Primavera with modern fixtures and fittings sure think they would sell well and fill a hole in the market that Scomadi and Peugeot seem to be looking at
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As long as it's plastic bodied, I'd never take an interest in it. Plastic bodied bikes have no soul. It's like they're built for the recycle heap from day one.
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As long as it's plastic bodied, I'd never take an interest in it. Plastic bodied bikes have no soul. It's like they're built for the recycle heap from day one.
and yet..

Steel is the most recycled material on the planet, more than all other materials combined
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nomadinsiam wrote:
As long as it's plastic bodied, I'd never take an interest in it. Plastic bodied bikes have no soul. It's like they're built for the recycle heap from day one.
and yet..

Steel is the most recycled material on the planet, more than all other materials combined
Ok, garbage heap. Is that clearer?
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Lots of info appearing in the UK now.

The owners are running an IndieGoGo crowd funding campaign to prioritise the delivery of the 300, estimate demand and help production funding
https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/scomadi-300cc-scooter-an-iconic-modern-classic.

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Vespa could perhaps learn something about this surge in nostalgia how about a re worked GS or a Primavera with modern fixtures and fittings sure think they would sell well and fill a hole in the market that Scomadi and Peugeot seem to be looking at
Piaggio released a reworked Primmy at EICMA in November 2013 so it's been out a year. It would be a veerrryy bold move to reuse the hallowed GS name. Perhaps they're holding it back for the replacement GTS!

http://www.vespa.com/en/primavera/studio

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/EDITORIAL/BIKES/REVIEWS/vespa_primavera_2014_expert_review.html

http://www.visordown.com/road-tests-first-rides/first-ride-vespa-primavera-review/24009.html
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Brown_beret7 you misunderstand my post when I mean bring back the primy and gs I don't mean a modern take on an old name I mean bring back the old shapes with modern engines and running gear ie like Scomadi have done , except use metal bodywork
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Brown_beret7 you misunderstand my post when I mean bring back the primy and gs I don't mean a modern take on an old name I mean bring back the old shapes with modern engines and running gear ie like Scomadi have done , except use metal bodywork
While there is a market for these types of bikes, the demand is not enough for manufacturers to do large production runs. If Vespa did decide the returns would be worth the venture, it would be a very limited production run and the price would be far higher than most consumers would be willing to pay.
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I like the Scomadi effort. The hybrid components Lambretta Innovations manufactures for use in vintage Lambrettas are ingenious and very well priced, even from across the Atlantic Ocean. I'm sure there will be quite a few old people with their "I've always wanted to own a Lambretta and now I can" take on why they are/will buying one. These people will surely pop up with their pictures of the Scomadi next to a Vespa GTS with two matching helmets and pet carriers filled with small dogs parked in front of their ranch style home in some US state where owning a scooter is kinda like owning a 4x4 while living in Manhattan: Because they can and they found a place on the internet to get some attention for being able to buy something.

Lambretta Innovations/PM Tuning are being wonderfully cautious about this project. The only way I can explain this is by pointing to the number of people who walk up to my Lambretta and exclaim, "Nice Vespa." Those people don't have the faculties to distinguish between two things and because of this turn everything into a generic version of something. In this case, Vespa (not intended as slagging on Vespa, but mostly informing on the fact that most people purchasing the new Vespas are frankly, sheep, and this is not Piaggio's fault and kudos to them for taking advantage of it). Taking this into consideration is probably why LI/PM Tuning is being cautious - they understand that their market is going to be smaller, more discerning and hyper-critical of anything that strays too far from the idea of what a Lambretta should be. They understand this new effort will live and die on the interest of a small number of potential customers, all of whom already own two or three vintage Lambrettas.

It is definitely a curious effort. I am looking forward to seeing how it pans out for Lambretta. As the owner of 3 Lambrettas (adding a 4th in February) I am interested in the Scomadi as a way to bring more attention to Lambretta.
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Brown_beret7 you misunderstand my post when I mean bring back the primy and gs I don't mean a modern take on an old name I mean bring back the old shapes with modern engines and running gear ie like Scomadi have done , except use metal bodywork
While there is a market for these types of bikes, the demand is not enough for manufacturers to do large production runs. If Vespa did decide the returns would be worth the venture, it would be a very limited production run and the price would be far higher than most consumers would be willing to pay.
I think the notion that Piaggio "respects" the vintage models (and interest in them) enough to manufacture an accurate take on the vintage models like the GS is false. Piaggio is happy enough to slap a vintage model type on anything. Primavera. Super. GT. On and on and on.

"In 1963 I really wanted to buy a Vespa, but I couldn't. But now I can re-visit my dream with my GTS!"

Yeah. No.
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While there is a market for these types of bikes, the demand is not enough for manufacturers to do large production runs. If Vespa did decide the returns would be worth the venture, it would be a very limited production run and the price would be far higher than most consumers would be willing to pay.
I think the entire market is reading this post right now.
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Brown_beret7 you misunderstand my post when I mean bring back the primy and gs I don't mean a modern take on an old name I mean bring back the old shapes with modern engines and running gear ie like Scomadi have done , except use metal bodywork
While there is a market for these types of bikes, the demand is not enough for manufacturers to do large production runs. If Vespa did decide the returns would be worth the venture, it would be a very limited production run and the price would be far higher than most consumers would be willing to pay.
Then you have to factor in the fact a large portion of that market will want a manual transmission not CVT. Piaggio's last manual transmission engine design is nearly 30 years old and a 2 stroke, and their current CVT engines will not fit into classic frames, just look at the LML auto. I doubt that even with a market 10 times larger, that Piaggio would be willing to design a new frame or engine, CVT or manual. The only way I could see it happening is Piaggio buying LML 4 stroke manual engines which can be fitted into a monocoque frame with a little modification to the frame. But then you'd end up with a 4 stroke scooter with all the quirks of the old 2 strokes, not a modern scooter that looks like an old scooter.

That actually doesn't sound like a bad idea. Anybody want to invest? We can make some new 4 stroke vintage scooters.
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