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I call a friend of mine guy all the time and he seems to like it. Of course that is his actual name.
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actually, there is something that really winds me up, and that's when a waiter in a restaurant acts like he/she is your Best Pal and checks up on you every five minutes: 'HI!!!! I'm Todd, and I'll be your waiter today!!!!' .... 'Is everything all right guys???? Are you SIMPLY ADORING THE SOUP????????' ... 'HEY!!! Here's your burger!!! Do you want ketchup??? Mayo??? How about some of our fabulous SPECIAL GARLIC GUACAMOLE PESTO SAUCE???'

Feck off and leave me alone Todd, I came here to eat, not to be screamed at by a tip-hungry sociopath on amphetamines.
Exactly like feckin Nandos
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to be honest, as long as they're polite, helpful, and competent, i don't care what shop staff call me - hon, babe, darling, love, dear, madam... it's all the same to me. to treat it as a 'respect' issue is to take it (and oneself) much too seriously, in my opinion. a shop will only lose my business if they fail on one or more of the three criteria listed above.
Totally agree! Seems a bit like a case of lowish self esteem if you need to be called Sir all the time.
Says the teacher!
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Hoowee ! It was not fun...
My son's first and middle names are "David Allen". It seemed like a good idea at the time.
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actually, there is something that really winds me up, and that's when a waiter in a restaurant acts like he/she is your Best Pal and checks up on you every five minutes: 'HI!!!! I'm Todd, and I'll be your waiter today!!!!' .... 'Is everything all right guys???? Are you SIMPLY ADORING THE SOUP????????' ... 'HEY!!! Here's your burger!!! Do you want ketchup??? Mayo??? How about some of our fabulous SPECIAL GARLIC GUACAMOLE PESTO SAUCE???'

Feck off and leave me alone Todd, I came here to eat, not to be screamed at by a tip-hungry sociopath on amphetamines.
THIS. I once had a nice intimate date in a lovely candle lit restaurant completely wrecked by just such a Todd.
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actually, there is something that really winds me up, and that's when a waiter in a restaurant acts like he/she is your Best Pal and checks up on you every five minutes: 'HI!!!! I'm Todd, and I'll be your waiter today!!!!' .... 'Is everything all right guys???? Are you SIMPLY ADORING THE SOUP????????' ... 'HEY!!! Here's your burger!!! Do you want ketchup??? Mayo??? How about some of our fabulous SPECIAL GARLIC GUACAMOLE PESTO SAUCE???'

Feck off and leave me alone Todd, I came here to eat, not to be screamed at by a tip-hungry sociopath on amphetamines.
Hahaha! I actually have the opposite "problem". I was a high school teacher in this community for 28 yrs, and there are still lots and lots of people from age 45 on down who call me Mr McEuen. A former colleague and I were hanging out at the local biker bar last summer, and this rough looking woman came up selling raffle tickets. She had been on a basketball team I had coached 20 years ago, and she kept calling me Mr. Cracked my buddy up. While they're in school, they want to call you by your first name, or some nickname, but years later, they almost all revert back to the manners their mommas taught 'em.
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actually, there is something that really winds me up, and that's when a waiter in a restaurant acts like he/she is your Best Pal and checks up on you every five minutes: 'HI!!!! I'm Todd, and I'll be your waiter today!!!!' .... 'Is everything all right guys???? Are you SIMPLY ADORING THE SOUP????????' ... 'HEY!!! Here's your burger!!! Do you want ketchup??? Mayo??? How about some of our fabulous SPECIAL GARLIC GUACAMOLE PESTO SAUCE???'

Feck off and leave me alone Todd, I came here to eat, not to be screamed at by a tip-hungry sociopath on amphetamines.
THIS. I once had a nice intimate date in a lovely candle lit restaurant completely wrecked by just such a Todd.
The local "country club" waiter found it necessary to do all those things AND explain what the little moist towels were for. Thanks, but, I already knew the weren't croissants. The long winded explanation of the intermediate morsels to "clarify the palate" made it the last meal I'll ever have there. Turd....I mean Todd.
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Argh! Over zealous wait staff I had a waiter grab my arm and push my shirt sleeve up so he could get a look at my tats. DON'T touch me!

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That would have likely resulted in a discussion with the manager if the waiter tried that with someone I was dining with. Wouldn't happen to me because I don't have tats but I would still consider it worthy of brining to management's notice. My grandparents owned a restaurant and I know how important it is that owners/managers know when staff is screwing up and antagonizing patrons.
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Thinking back, I had officers (signature) privileges when I worked for The Mirage. I actually had a waitress tell me my order for an additional alacarte veg was, "that's enough, you don't need any more", in a pissy tone. She was job hunting the next work day. Giving me pause about complaining so quickly again. But knowing she would treat a company director that way made the VP question how she handled guests spending $150-300 a cover for meals. I hated the French restaurant and the constant changes of silver and place settings almost as much as the constant "raking" of the tablecloth.
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When I was young, I knew kids who called their parents by their first names. No mommy or daddy, it was Helen or Ray, and so on. I couldn't understand how parents could/would allow that. It just seemed strange.
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genie wrote:
actually, there is something that really winds me up, and that's when a waiter in a restaurant acts like he/she is your Best Pal and checks up on you every five minutes: 'HI!!!! I'm Todd, and I'll be your waiter today!!!!' .... 'Is everything all right guys???? Are you SIMPLY ADORING THE SOUP????????' ... 'HEY!!! Here's your burger!!! Do you want ketchup??? Mayo??? How about some of our fabulous SPECIAL GARLIC GUACAMOLE PESTO SAUCE???'

Feck off and leave me alone Todd, I came here to eat, not to be screamed at by a tip-hungry sociopath on amphetamines.
Hahaha! I actually have the opposite "problem". I was a high school teacher in this community for 28 yrs, and there are still lots and lots of people from age 45 on down who call me Mr McEuen. A former colleague and I were hanging out at the local biker bar last summer, and this rough looking woman came up selling raffle tickets. She had been on a basketball team I had coached 20 years ago, and she kept calling me Mr. Cracked my buddy up. While they're in school, they want to call you by your first name, or some nickname, but years later, they almost all revert back to the manners their mommas taught 'em.
Wmak,
How about this one: You are minding your own business at some public place when a gorgeous, tall, leggy twenty-something charges at you squealing, "Oh my God. Oh my God. Oh my God It's YOU". She embraces you. More squealing, "We had SO MUCH FUN, didn't we? GAWD I miss you!" People begin sideways glances at you. Couples whisper and chuckle in your direction. Women my age glare the "Cradle Robber" glare at you. You smile and try for a "friendly" hug

Then comes the real clincher. Louder than her squeals she demands, "You Do remember me, don't You?" "It's me Angelica Ramirez. You had me for two years!" The "cradle Robber" glare has now turned into the "cradle robbing insensitive bastard I hope you get what you deserve" glare.

The four - feet tall Angelica Ramirez that you recall weighed about seventy pounds and was all elbows and knees (Retired Middle School teacher here). She was a good student and a bit shy; now she would make paint peel right off the walls.

Plan A is to say loudly, for all to hear, something or anything about school days/good student/are you at university?/ blah blah, but she cuts you off, "Gotta go. I really do miss you. Maybe I'll come and see you. Are you still in the same room?" "Bye Mr. F!"

It is nice to be remembered, isn't it?

Mr. F
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I suppose I hold the record on here for using the word darling. It's a term of endearment as far as I'm concerned.

I first heard it from my favorite uncle [who's sadly passed on] to me it was a comforting way of saying "I'm loved and one of the gang if you like"

He could have called me "shit for brains" as he did to a lot of fellow workers and colleagues

But he didn't, darling was what he called me and I thank him for that.

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I use Hon occasionally at work. It helps that I am 15-20 years older than most of my co-workers. I can't use the excuse of being Southern even though I can use y'all properly in a sentence. The furthest south I have lived is a little town south of Seattle. LOL

Ma'am doesn't bother me at all. My 11 year old did almost 4 years in taekwondo. They use Sir and Ma'am as responses to the Master Instructors. It is a form of respect.

Teachers are ONLY called Mr. or Mrs. Even my son's teachers, I cannot call by their first names. It feels weird to me.
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I don't know if this is a California thing, but there's been a recent scourge of people at places like Home Depot or some random burrito stand calling me "boss". That's the only one I hate.
Agree. Hate that too.
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When I was young, I knew kids who called their parents by their first names. No mommy or daddy, it was Helen or Ray, and so on. I couldn't understand how parents could/would allow that. It just seemed strange.
Seriously? We're near the same age and we would've earned a look just this side of a back hand across the face. I was shocked the first time someone addressed their parent by their name.
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actually, there is something that really winds me up, and that's when a waiter in a restaurant acts like he/she is your Best Pal and checks up on you every five minutes: 'HI!!!! I'm Todd, and I'll be your waiter today!!!!' .... 'Is everything all right guys???? Are you SIMPLY ADORING THE SOUP????????' ... 'HEY!!! Here's your burger!!! Do you want ketchup??? Mayo??? How about some of our fabulous SPECIAL GARLIC GUACAMOLE PESTO SAUCE???'

Feck off and leave me alone Todd, I came here to eat, not to be screamed at by a tip-hungry sociopath on amphetamines.
And then you finish your beer and where the hell is Todd?
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I don't know if this is a California thing, but there's been a recent scourge of people at places like Home Depot or some random burrito stand calling me "boss". That's the only one I hate.
Oh, that is the worst to me - that's the only one that makes me go sideways. "Boss" is what the inmates in the Texas Department of Corrections (probably in California too) call the guards and block tenders. It's aggressively disrespectful to a supervisor - the people who say it want to see if you catch the reference - and I always (sorry, but I can't help myself) instantly unload on anyone who says that, usually with some variation of " *****, we're not in the Eastham Unit anymore and I don't **** you in the *** anymore, so you need to quit calling me that right now." I tend to lean toward them a little when I say it.

Usually they don't use the word anymore after that.

Sorry, mea maxima culpa, but that's the one that does it for this normally pleasant and friendly person.
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Just wondering who thinks it's disrespectful to be called mate/darling by a stranger?

The reason I ask is because I work on checkouts in a supermarket and with my cockney self I always say "Hi mate" and "Thanks darling" to every customer. Yet this morning, the first time ever in my life (21 years) An old guy had a go at me for saying "Mate". His reply was "I'm not your mate, I've never met you and it's disrespectful, I would like you to call me sir" my first reaction was just to laugh thinking he was just kidding, but I soon realised he was serious.

After he paid for his shopping, he complained to my manager. Though she just laughed.

So do you consider it disrespectful? Or does the guy need to wind his neck in?
Hi Rusty how are doing mate ?

Nothing disrespectful was intended when you used the words mate or darling, so no harm done on your part - if you were born and bred in Lincolnshire England you would know that these words are used commonly in an friendly & affectionate way. Along with Duck if its a young female.

There are many words around the world that are mistaken - for example " on my way to work this morning I passed a tanker load of Semen (Indonesian for Cement)

I am dying for a Fag (English for Cigarette) not to be used in the States lol
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I hate, hate, HATE, being called 'guy'. I completely understand you Mocker. I'm Robert and people think I like being called Bob. If I wanted to be called Bob I would introduce myself as Bob.

Being called mate or darling, who cares? I see the term 'mate' as we here in the states would call someone 'friend'. I liked it when people called me mate while traveling through London. Don't sweat it. The dude was having a bad day and took it out on you.
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When a lady calls me darlin I respond that is the nicest thing anyone called me all day...... catches them off guard all the time.
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For all you people that hate being called guy. Can you elaborate on why? I am not getting it.
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Well, is that is causing you problems with some clients... just make yourself a favor and stop doing that. Even if you are right and it is just a friendly word.
One person. Some people are NEVER happy, and if it wasn't "mate" it would be something else. Sad he felt the need to tell management. It says more about his pathetic state of mind, than anything else. You can only be who you are, and you seem like a nice person. All you can do is be polite and considerate. It's just sad we live in a time when it seems that so many people are looking for an excuse to be offended. I got in trouble once for saying "see ya later, guys" in a happy manner, to a mixed group. it is a local colloquialism in these parts, to refer to EVERYONE as "guys" when it is said in that manner. When used that way it's not gender specific. I was in Cinci at the time and not St. Louis. After that I tried not to say that. But too bad it wasn't taken in the manner intended, in a casual situation. All that crap does is take the spontaneity and fun out, and replace it with self consciousness. One reason why I very rarely entertain these days. Got too tired of invited people over for a nice evening, and instead would spent the week prior taking calls asking what I was serving because this person was gluten-free, that one is a vegan, etc. couldn't afford to have a separate entree for each individual. Sad, isn't it
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For all you people that hate being called guy. Can you elaborate on why? I am not getting it.
Guy is a name. It's not mine. Simple. What's confusing you Gary?
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For all you people that hate being called guy. Can you elaborate on why? I am not getting it.
Guy is a name. It's not mine. Simple. What's confusing you Gary?
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you guys want some coffee?
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I hate it when people say, "Richard, don't be a Dick."
I think that is funny but don't refer to the loo as a John or I will get really mad.
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Am I the odd one out in that I never use "sir", "Ma'am", or any of those other terms? The guy that the OP was typing about was just in a bad mood or just a plain di^%head. Kinda odd that someone should get so upset about local slang....
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While I wouldn't have a problem with mate I don't like it when a woman or girl calls me hon, or darling. I don't respond but the first thing in my mind is I only have one and that's my wife.
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For all you people that hate being called guy. Can you elaborate on why? I am not getting it.
For me it all comes back to my 8th grade art teacher Mr. Penna who was a complete tool and called every male student guy in an annoyingly chummy way Laughing emoticon
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stickyfrog wrote:
For all you people that hate being called guy. Can you elaborate on why? I am not getting it.
Not 'guy' but 'guys'...

I hated it anyway (no particular reason, just did) but getting called 'guys' (plural) even when I'm on my own? That's just plain stupid... made me hate it even more
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I think the situation can demand certain titles. I'm a teacher and part of the code is that students either call me Sir or Mr.name Also if you're in a formal setting or the military then titles become very important.

All in all though in casual situations...I want genuine, kind, and casual to define the interaction. If I called someone sugar or hun it would sound unnatural on my tongue and either count as flirting or being creepy.

You know how some folks can just 'get away' with certain things because of their personality. Some folks are touchers, usually women, but some men do it as well. I just cannot pat someone's shoulder as I tell a joke or gently touch someone's arm when I'm making a point. Because it isn't genuine or authentic for me, it is forced. Some folks can do it naturally, even to me when talking and I hardly notice.

I'd rather be called mate in a natural way than be given some corporate greeting that a company forces all their front of line staff to say when interacting with customers. I mean, sir/ma'am is alright as it is generally used. But the crap you get nowadays being called the next 'guest' or whatnot is annoying to me because it lacks authenticity.

Give me real, even if it isn't good enough!

Edit P.S.

Also I try not to use any terms for referring to anyone! There's no need. Try saying goodbye or have a nice day without any sir/ma'am/mate etc. Perhaps it is a bit terse or could be seen as too informal, but like any good Holmes fan I know that very few people hear the dog that ISN'T barking in the night.
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Next time hit the old ball buster with "Bro"
or 'bruv' - that'll wind him up
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