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'09 MP3-500- I have 8 black phillips head screws out + a long fine thread bright-metal fine thread for underneath (even though I don't think it's holding the cover.....but SOMETHING is. Is there another screw coming in from the other side of the scoot? What am I missing?
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Look close at the bottom of the cover to make sure you have all the screws out, the cover should just about fall off.
Get a light and shine it down every hole, might have been two screws in one hole. I have done that before.
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There are two large screws to remove, along the lower edge.

All the screws are removed from the left side of the bike
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There are nine black headed phillips.
This is from downloaded owners manual.
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yup Irish nailed it, the op is still lacking 1 screw to remove.
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WEB-Tech wrote:
Look close at the bottom of the cover to make sure you have all the screws out, the cover should just about fall off.
Get a light and shine it down every hole, might have been two screws in one hole. I have done that before.
Am waiting to hear about how one could get two screws in one hole on the airbox. That would take some force.
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stickyfrog wrote:
WEB-Tech wrote:
Look close at the bottom of the cover to make sure you have all the screws out, the cover should just about fall off.
Get a light and shine it down every hole, might have been two screws in one hole. I have done that before.
Am waiting to hear about how one could get two screws in one hole on the airbox. That would take some force.
I have seen that on more than 1 occasion. a powered screw drill will easily put a self tapping screw right past another screw and you wouldn't even know it going into plastic.
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old as dirt wrote:
stickyfrog wrote:
WEB-Tech wrote:
Look close at the bottom of the cover to make sure you have all the screws out, the cover should just about fall off.
Get a light and shine it down every hole, might have been two screws in one hole. I have done that before.
Am waiting to hear about how one could get two screws in one hole on the airbox. That would take some force.
I have seen that on more than 1 occasion. a powered screw drill will easily put a self tapping screw right past another screw and you wouldn't even know it going into plastic.
Another good reason to blunt those screw-ends.
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A magnetic screwdriver is a must!
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mvtroiano wrote:
A magnetic screwdriver is a must!
Had some stainless steel screws lying about. Made for some fun the first time I tried to take them out.

Cheers,
Tross
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old as dirt wrote:
yup Irish nailed it, the op is still lacking 1 screw to remove.
Is that the same as "having a screw loose"?
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thanks guys, laid down on the floor of the garage & got the thing off. Key words here are "laid down on the floor". I have a bad back & usually do all my work with the machine up on the hydraulic table. I have my Guzzi Eldorado "up" right now & figured I could do something as simple as pulling the MP3 air box cover "on the floor". Of course I was working by feel & couldn't SEE what I was doing. The reluctant screw, for whatever Italian reason was machined with narrow cross grooves in it's head. The Phillips screwdriver that removed all the other screws was too big for this one. I wasn't paying close enough attention as I removed the screws & thought I had them all out. Naturally the recheck didn't feel any different because the screwdriver wasn't properly engaging the screw. I had to get down to the level where I could see into the holes to find the missed screw-then go after it with the next-size-smaller Phillips screwdriver.
Motresyklman (still learning after all these years!)
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old as dirt wrote:
stickyfrog wrote:
WEB-Tech wrote:
Look close at the bottom of the cover to make sure you have all the screws out, the cover should just about fall off.
Get a light and shine it down every hole, might have been two screws in one hole. I have done that before.
Am waiting to hear about how one could get two screws in one hole on the airbox. That would take some force.
I have seen that on more than 1 occasion. a powered screw drill will easily put a self tapping screw right past another screw and you wouldn't even know it going into plastic.
DING DING!
WINNER WINNER Chicken Dinner!!!
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WEB-Tech wrote:
old as dirt wrote:
stickyfrog wrote:
WEB-Tech wrote:
Look close at the bottom of the cover to make sure you have all the screws out, the cover should just about fall off.
Get a light and shine it down every hole, might have been two screws in one hole. I have done that before.
Am waiting to hear about how one could get two screws in one hole on the airbox. That would take some force.
I have seen that on more than 1 occasion. a powered screw drill will easily put a self tapping screw right past another screw and you wouldn't even know it going into plastic.
DING DING!
WINNER WINNER Chicken Dinner!!!
Never would occur to me to use a powered screw drill to install those but yeah I guess that could happen.
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stickyfrog wrote:
WEB-Tech wrote:
old as dirt wrote:
stickyfrog wrote:
WEB-Tech wrote:
Look close at the bottom of the cover to make sure you have all the screws out, the cover should just about fall off.
Get a light and shine it down every hole, might have been two screws in one hole. I have done that before.
Am waiting to hear about how one could get two screws in one hole on the airbox. That would take some force.
I have seen that on more than 1 occasion. a powered screw drill will easily put a self tapping screw right past another screw and you wouldn't even know it going into plastic.
DING DING!
WINNER WINNER Chicken Dinner!!!
Never would occur to me to use a powered screw drill to install those but yeah I guess that could happen.
Use a drill with a screw driver bit for everything, rarely hold a screw driver anymore. Just set the clutch to 1 and you won't strip anything
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