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Vespa ~ Lambretta ~ Piaggio ~ Vintage ~ Classic???
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well it wont be the lammy will it??
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There won't be any definitive answer to that. GS, GL, Rally are all sought after but that doesn't make them the most 'authentic' per se. But they are lovely models IMHO. Why the question?
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well it wont be the lammy will it??
Ha! True indeed.
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Authentic...
Thanks to all for relpies here. I am working on a project that will have a red Vespa on display. My customers will be allowed to take pictures on it and it will ridden around town as well. The concept is authentic and I am looking for the most "classic" 60's model. I am also looking for one that has a sidecar as well...
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It doesn't say Vespa; it says "Vesp".
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I think a round tail 8 inch so that tells you no definitive answer to that question .
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Why don't you find out what's available to you, post 'em up here and we can then offer our observations on their authentic vintage classic status?

Seems like that'd be a lot simpler than your original question for which there many answers, most of them neither correct nor incorrect.
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Actually, for the purpose you describe, it's what your customers think is "authentic" that counts, as you are catering to them, not us.
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when i looked at vespa's the one that jumped out as the most vespa-ish one is the one i bought, a '64 VBB. i agree though, no right answers here but would be good to see what you have.
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Here is one thats in fine shape but not sure how "classic" this is as its was manufactured in 2005
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I think I know what you mean. There are some things that are iconic in shape. Like the coke bottle or the 64 mustang or Marilyn Monroe. When I close my eyes and think vespa the model that comes to mind is the vbb. Of course the vnb had the same look and a there are a few other models with the rounded rear fenders and solo seat with a separate buddy seat behind.
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Is this a research thread being done by an employee of a "restoration" company somewhere from India/Asia?


What's with the douchey Ferrari sticker on that PX? Does it go with the "hey I'm middle aged" Corvette in the background? I can already hear the "I restore and import rate exotic and hot rod cars" conversation.

Getting the most "authentic" Vespa won't make you as cool as putting a Ferrari sticker on a shit-slow PX.
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Buy this one. It is authentic and looks good through a camera. You park it in front of your high-end luxury internet store.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1967-Vespa-with-Sidecar-/181279658321?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2a351c1151
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Buy this one. It is authentic and looks good through a camera. You park it in front of your high-end luxury internet store.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1967-Vespa-with-Sidecar-/181279658321?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2a351c1151
I agree with SFvsr, these things are the best! and completely restored!

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Nothing says "authentic" like an extra fat center mat,
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hmmmm
id go with that but im a little worried about the zip on the spare
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Are you looking to rent or buy. I know someone local with a Stella Atomic Fireball with sidecar.

If you don't need a sidecar and don't insist on red hit me up. I am two towns away
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What's with the douchey Ferrari sticker on that PX? Does it go with the "hey I'm middle aged" Corvette in the background? I can already hear the "I restore and import rate exotic and hot rod cars" conversation.

Getting the most "authentic" Vespa won't make you as cool as putting a Ferrari sticker on a shit-slow PX.
I'm hoping that an "I want photo". That doesn't look like a Florida tag on the vette.
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Summana is an Indian name, if I'm not mistaken. Maybe Nepalese.
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Absolutely right on about the ferrari logo, totally lame and must go!! Hmmm, a 150 is that slow? and no this is not some attempt to get info to make cheap dupes nor is it an internet cafe, very clever though! That 67' is pretty spectacular...seems cheap, how the heck do you know if its actually a cheap knock off????
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Unfortunately, some members are taking potshots at you. They think that's fun.

The picture by TrojanMod is of a typical Asian restoration ("Bodge"), which are generally of shiny looks and very poor mechanical condition, which you might already know.

If you are looking for a static display scooter for "photo ops" only, then a bright, shiny Bodge might do. However, if you plan to ride it around town, then a Bodge is not the way to go, especially if you are going to add the extra load and stress of a sidecar.

Good luck in your search.
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I'm hoping that an "I want photo". That doesn't look like a Florida tag on the vette.
I think it says "TEXAS."
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any scooter restored by Bar Italia Classics
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The red px is a classic vespa of sorts. Id take off all that ridiculous trim and extra racks. and ditch the windshield.
The sidecar is accessory enough.

I have talked to people at a market who have 150 stella and side car and its just an advertising gimic for them, but they love riding in it. As an idea, its a good attention getter.

To find an old bike maybe a large project. As mentioned the bodges are bright and plentiful, and can be a very expensive trap. They are also mostly the old italian rounded shape too, that most people associate with classic vespa, and are commonly advertised, so you have to be aware of that

Old scooters werent really made to pull sidecars. To get enough enough power to pull a sidecar and passenger safely in traffic could be an expensive project. Not a problem if its within your budget to do so. It may involve buying a (decent) older frame or scooter, modifying the frame to fit a more modern engine in it. Or get a shop to put a larger cc aftermarket kit on your 150. Just to get the sidecar to pull sufficiently.

If you dont live in india and want something a little different, with decent power, looks and sound for your needs, i could imagine an enfield bullet and sidecar to be a cheaper and easier solution, unless youre deliberately trying for a european look to be really different. Clearly buying a bullet in india would not be different.

*edit* looks like your in florida, so have a look at the bar italia sites resto gallery
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I thought someone had a rally with a sidecar also available. Not sure where I saw it. Was a red one with a few extra weird chrome "bits". Must have been on Craigslist, somewhere.
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Summon.. What kind of business will you be displaying the scooter?
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Many would say that a P range is the quintessential Vespa. You should totally buy it Laughing emoticon
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What's with the douchey Ferrari sticker on that PX? Does it go with the "hey I'm middle aged" Corvette in the background? I can already hear the "I restore and import rate exotic and hot rod cars" conversation.

Getting the most "authentic" Vespa won't make you as cool as putting a Ferrari sticker on a shit-slow PX.
The Gentleman we purchased it from had it parked next to his 360 Spider in the garage.
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Re: Authentic...
summanachia wrote:
Thanks to all for relpies here. I am working on a project that will have a red Vespa on display. My customers will be allowed to take pictures on it and it will ridden around town as well. The concept is authentic and I am looking for the most "classic" 60's model. I am also looking for one that has a sidecar as well...
This is cheap but maybe a bodge but ok for a static display.



http://newyork.craigslist.org/wch/mcy/4253473653.html
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It looks like someone's doing the right thing.
hope it's not bought then relisted.
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Many thanks for the replies
Thanks to all for the replies...the display will be part of a very festive night spot and will post once the project is close to completion....best to all
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Many would say that a P range is the quintessential Vespa. You should totally buy it Laughing emoticon
SFvsr wrote:
What's with the douchey Ferrari sticker on that PX? Does it go with the "hey I'm middle aged" Corvette in the background? I can already hear the "I restore and import rate exotic and hot rod cars" conversation.

Getting the most "authentic" Vespa won't make you as cool as putting a Ferrari sticker on a shit-slow PX.
The Gentleman we purchased it from had it parked next to his 360 Spider in the garage.
Of course it was parked in his garage. And I'm sure it was shown under the auspices of, "Let me show you my garage." Those douches are all the same. They buy shit just so the can show people when they come over to the house. They don't have any other way to get attention.
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This topic is very subjective. I can see the beauty of the old vespas but you can't match the newer gadgets of the newer vespas(electric starter, better startor,better brakes, fuel gauge with indicator, oil injection) etc, etc

I love my old scooters but I feel much safer on my 05 PX.
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