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http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2013/12/13/two-reported-injured-in-colorado-high-school-shooting/4014393/


Please! This stuff has to stop.

Words fail...



In before the lock.

It is being reported that the perp stopped himself...permanently. No less horrific for the victims though.

A friendly reminder. These topics often get emotional. Understandably. But consider the just walk away feature if needed.

It tragic that these shooting continue to happen. My thoughts and prayers go out to all affected.

Something wrong with the people on Colorado? What does this make it for events like this out of that state. Mental health system needs revamping bad, or at least people in schools that can see the warning signs of people like this. There are always signs with these school shootings but nobody realizes it till after even though often its plain as day.

Having gone to school in the fifties and sixties I can't imagine having to worry about something like this happening. My sympathies to the victims and all those involved.

There are signs but think about all of the people you see day to day the do odd things or act weird. Should you dial 911 evertime? Granted there are others who may be closer that you would think might be worried but when in that kind of dynamic what seems odd to the outsider seems normal to the insider. I think Monday morning quarterbacking on why someone didn't see this coming is not useful unless the person may have been seeing a dr. Even then it is tough I would think.

I was just down the road doing some training when this went down. Wondered why all the cops were going ape sh*t, then saw the Sheriffs helicopter take off pretty quick. I've got some questions but I'm going to let the story develop a little and see what they say. Seems like people don't know how to deal with their problems without violence any more. Hopefully all those injured make a full recovery.

Fixed that for you.

these events are more than sad, I will not say any more.

+1

I have come to accept these things as part of our culture. If my heart were heavy with news of each shooting or senseless act of violence it would drop through the floor.

I like to give thanks and grieve for my own. That way when tragedy strikes close to home I will have something left to give. I suppose some are just heartier then I.

rip to the shooter and hoping the wounded make a full recovery

I think there are often EARLY signs for trained personnel, but EARLY INTERVENTION is not allowed in most areas. The parents object.

And even with treatment it doesn't take an insane person to do this, really. Unbalanced and having a bad day seems to be enough along with something of a history.

Parents, schools, community. I am not cynical but unless we have the ability to treat everyone and make sure they are perfectly balanced at all times this will continue. Is it a mental health issue? Yes. But it is just part of it

I notice in most of these shootings no father are strong male role model is in the home. Almost never mentioned in the news but I almost never hear mention of a father for these young shooters. But I digress....

I am sorry I cannot accept these things, many of them should be completely avoidable. I just wish if someone is so sad they want to take their own life they don't feel the need to take other innocents with them, or they reach out for help first, but that is a pipe dream. We live from day to day and hope this type of stuff does not affect us personally. We just need to do better. We should probably end this thread as it will not go anywhere good.

Oops.... Thanks for that. Thats what I was going for just didn't translate to the fingers very well.

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This statement is the worst generalization of a group of people I have EVER witnessed on MV, offensive quite frankly.

Illness has no special location and I'm certain there are many awesome people living in Colorado, I know a few personally. Los Angeles and Chicago have shootings every single night sadly, it is a terrible fact of society these days.

God bless all involved today.

Best,
SDG

Just terrible.

Yes its just the domino effect, so to speak. A very bad thing happens in Colorado a couple times and disturbed people know where the epicenter is for the kind of attention they want. Not positive attention, of course. But just the sort this will get you.

The Columbine kids are sort of folk heroes to many a young person who feels out of place or put upon or alone. So, may as well join the disturbance at ground zero, so to speak. It sort of draws attention to those with desperate, murderous cries for help and reinforces their plight in their eyes. It attaches them to something bigger then they are. And in a confused mind that's dangerous thinking.

Please LORD let this stop Now... R

What is wrong with people in Colorado?

I don't mean to be crass, and I am not trying to make light of the situation at all, and I am certainly not trying to offend anyone, but...

1 angry student went in to school with a gun, with the intention of killing 1 person. I am very glad he failed. However, in the last month, how many times has one angry youth killed another youth in a city like Detroit, Chicago, New York, LA, Dallas, Houston, and so on and so on.

This was a nice school where 9 of 10 kids go to college, this doesn't normally happen at a school like that. So when there is a big disconnect between an event like this and what is normal "in the tragic world of youths killing each other" people jump all over it.

The thing that is "right" about Colorado is that these things happen rarely enough to still be newsworthy...


"The act today was horrible, and I do truly feel for the families. But The comment about Colorado reminded me of how often people ignore the hundreds of unnecessary deaths a year in certain parts of the country, and go nuts about 5 here, 10 there, and so on. Every life is valuable, and every person deserves to live. Sorry once again if I offended"

It's a different kind of killing, though. Inner city violence between youths? Its motives are completely different. This here in CO and other places is not too rare, but unique. Not because it happens less frequently then inner city killing but because of its circumstances and motives.

No one ignores inner city violence its just we understand what and why it is even if sometimes misguided. Here, not so much.

We can say "1 angry kid" did this, but he also committed suicide. With most gang related shootings, drug related shootings, and people with a simple "beef" with someone, that is not the case and the people who carry out such things aren't suicidal.

So, the spotlight is shown a bit brighter in these cases. These shooters are mostly white, middle class or working class kids. How to explain that? We hear countless reasons why inner city youth kill and motives are clear even if lowdown. So what do all these suburban kids have in common? Pays to look at that, too.

So sad and especially since Columbine. Just seems like some young males these days are out of control. IMHO the difference is kids now use social media to interact not face to face. You don't have many consequences if you behave badly on there. You need to have face to face interactions to learn how to live in society IMHO. This gives the kids free reign to do what they want and couple that with parents who don't instill the values that mine did when i was growing up (50's and 60's) you have a recipe for disaster. I wouldn't do bad things when i was a kid because i knew my parents would ground until i was 100. My dad just had to give me the "look" and i straightened up. I had many guns but i was also taught how to use them appropriately. I couldn't shoot a deer let alone a person.Thoughts and prayers to everyone was was affected by the shooting. So so sad.