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Took the scoot out for a 80 miles each way motorway run today. Note to self, check weather in destination as well as start point. Got completely drenched. Serious amounts of water on the way back. Anyway, the point is my scoot starting losing power quite unusually. In fact, quite bloody dangerously.

I'm thinking it was a bad batch of fuel, as when I filled up again later, the symptoms went. I left the bike for a few hours after filling up. My bad batch mpg had dropped from around 60 to less than 50. Top speed wasn't happening, all in all a bad day on the scoot.

So, my question is whether a serious amount of rain could upset the bike? Or is my theory of a bad batch of fuel more likely?

Oh, and my new Akrapovic exhaust. Have been running with no issues on 30miles a day since fitting on Tuesday. Can't imagine that such isolated performance issue was to do with this. But, looking at all possibilities
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Did it lose power before you fitted the pipe ?

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Re: Beverly 350 Cough Splutter
elyobelyob wrote:
Took the scoot out for a 80 miles each way motorway run today. Note to self, check weather in destination as well as start point. Got completely drenched. Serious amounts of water on the way back. Anyway, the point is my scoot starting losing power quite unusually. In fact, quite bloody dangerously.

I'm thinking it was a bad batch of fuel, as when I filled up again later, the symptoms went. I left the bike for a few hours after filling up. My bad batch mpg had dropped from around 60 to less than 50. Top speed wasn't happening, all in all a bad day on the scoot.

So, my question is whether a serious amount of rain could upset the bike? Or is my theory of a bad batch of fuel more likely?

Oh, and my new Akrapovic exhaust. Have been running with no issues on 30miles a day since fitting on Tuesday. Can't imagine that such isolated performance issue was to do with this. But, looking at all possibilities
Define "serious amount of rain"... Unless you rode into a flooded section of road that was higher than the footrest area, for instance, I'd say that rain shouldn't be a problem. Think about the height of the airbox intake opening and the spark plug location.

Or maybe your scoot just doesn't like to ride in the rain?

My money's on bad gas.
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Join the club. The thread 'Beverly Engine Woes' covers fellow sufferers. I have experienced engine loss about 4 times in the dry.

There is a good thread for German Beverly owners who have the same problem

http://www.beverlyforum.de/board/thread.php?threadid=766

Google Translator will give you the gist.
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Bad fuel is highly unusual - it's often blamed as the cause of intermittent poor running, but I bet there's another reason, especially with the spate of complaints.
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Reading these threads is causing me not to buy right now. I want Piaggio to sort this out. It seems the kill switch is the likely suspect.
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I think my definition of a serious amount of rain is "pretty close to aqua planing the M25". The issue only kicked in after losing top end, and thinking that it felt sluggish. Chatting to someone tonight, he was saying that water into spark plugs would give that sort of problem. It was a sudden loss of power on acceleration, a bit of a choke. Left me in the fast lane gesturing to my near side vehicle to keep back as moving in, then suddenly getting power back. Riding first thing tomorrow, and it looks wet all day. So, will see if new fuel has solved it. My switches are all covered with muffs, so most likely no ingress of water into the switches.
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Not that my lack of a problem means that others don't have one, but.. in August I rode my BV 350 on a 1,120 mile round trip, mostly Interstate. At least 3/4 of the time was in very heavy rain. No issues at all. I, too, don't see how rain is the problem.
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Could be the ECU/throttle body assenbly
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My BV 350 is my only vehicle. I've driven mine through the rain a bunch of times, including some very heavy rain and not had any problems whatsoever. I'm really glad too, because I don't know much about engines and would be at the mercy of the dealer here if anything went wrong.
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Adding 2 ounces of Seafoam to my gas on every other fillup has kept my scooters trouble free of water in the tank.
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Adding 2 ounces of Seafoam to my gas on every other fillup has kept my scooters trouble free of water in the tank.
Good stuff. Also keeps the injectors clean.
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I have also a Akra, no problems with it. Make sure the motor reset is done. Let the motor run about 5 minute stationairy.

The kill switch seems the causer.

Greetings, Mish
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I had issues with the side stand switch. Make sure it's clean and well lubricated. It's wired in series with the kill switch.
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I had issues with the side stand switch. Make sure it's clean and well lubricated. It's wired in series with the kill switch.
Good call (on a switch located IN the easy-to-get-wet zone on the bike)
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After a three weeks or so since I posted this, I've had no issues.

http://www.fuelly.com/driver/elyob/beverly-350-sport-touring

In fact, since that disaster day with *incredibly wet weather*, I have driven through some *pretty wet* weather with no issues. The mpg definitely took a huge tumble on that day (I was motorway riding and did a half a tank each way), however is now doing better than it ever has.

Only thing of note, was the new Akrapovic exhaust 2 tanks before that, and of course the rainageddon. I'd imagine that the exhaust would show issues pretty immediately.

So far though, it hasn't happened again and look forward to another 5500miles happy riding. (Once this wet weather has quit, and I can start testing out my new rear tyre).
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Running nicely
I had the engine mapping upgrade done on mine last week. It is supposed to help with idling. I have experienced engine cut-outs, so I hope this will fix it.

There's a Beverly-meet in Germany at the end of May.

http://www.beverlyforum.com/board/thread.php?threadid=1037&order=postid&desc=ASC&start=60

I'm planning to go, so I need a few months of trouble-free running to give the the confidence to take it down the Autobahn.

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I had the engine mapping upgrade done on mine last week. It is supposed to help with idling. I have experienced engine cut-outs, so I hope this will fix it.
Never heard of this .. what is it? Who does it?

I'm sort of wondering where to source rollers and upgraded air filter in the UK and anything else that might be nice, in time for my next service.

Any help appreciated ... I'd like to give it a little boost wherever I can, just because I can (or hope to at least).
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Engine Mapping upgrade
I took it into my dealer after I complained about engine stalls - and presented him with about 20 other cases culled from various forums in case he didn't believe me.

He said my Beverley 350 ST, bought in May last year, could benefit from a new software release from Piaggio that helped in particular with idling. He took the bike in for a couple of hours and did it, no charge. The software also stores details of the last 20 starts, he said, and hoped to find a fault logged for my last problem. But I must have done more than 20 starts as no faults were recorded.

Maybe someone knows how to find out about the upgrade on a Piaggio website and what it does.
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Hiya yes there is a mapping upgrade for the Bev go to a descent piaggio dealer and they,ll sort it for you. As for the akropovic upon fitting it you apparently have to disconnect the battery for ten minutes then reconnect so the bike can relearn its settings for the new pipe.
Hope this helps. Loz.
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Lozza wrote:
Hiya yes there is a mapping upgrade for the Bev go to a descent piaggio dealer and they,ll sort it for you. As for the akropovic upon fitting it you apparently have to disconnect the battery for ten minutes then reconnect so the bike can relearn its settings for the new pipe.
Hope this helps. Loz.
Interesting - has anyone in the US heard about a mapping update for the BV350??
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My dealer loaded the new map when he had it in to investigate the cut out irritation. He did not find any sopecific fault that would cause the cutting out but checked over all switches and connections and anything else that might be relevant. Not had an issue with it since, so I am assuming it is a job well done. T

The new engine map appears to have made a difference with a smoother pick-up from idle and less abrupt roll-off. I might be imagining that, of course, or it might be something else he did...
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i ran an akra muffler on my bv350 for 2200 miles with no issues (before i sold it). no remap needed.
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