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Skutorr posted these 2014 prices and weights for the largest of the maxi scooters on our BMW scooter forum. All things considered, IMHO the BMWs are a bargain.

1.) $10,999 SUZUKI Burgman 650 605 LBS
2.) $9,990 BMW C650GT 575 LBS
3.) $9,699 KYMCO MyRoad 700 618 LBS
4.) $9,590 BMW C600Sport 549 LBS
5.) $9,270 HONDA Silverwing 600 550 LBS
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Skutorr posted these 2014 prices and weights for the largest of the maxi scooters on our BMW scooter forum. All things considered, IMHO the BMWs are a bargain.

1.) $10,999 SUZUKI Burgman 650 605 LBS
2.) $9,990 BMW C650GT 575 LBS
3.) $9,699 KYMCO MyRoad 700 618 LBS
4.) $9,590 BMW C600Sport 549 LBS
5.) $9,270 HONDA Silverwing 600 550 LBS
Wow...nearly 250kg (C600 Sport) for a scooter? Just seems heavy to me. But then again, I only have an LX.
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Oldscoot wrote:
Skutorr posted these 2014 prices and weights for the largest of the maxi scooters on our BMW scooter forum. All things considered, IMHO the BMWs are a bargain.

1.) $10,999 SUZUKI Burgman 650 605 LBS
2.) $9,990 BMW C650GT 575 LBS
3.) $9,699 KYMCO MyRoad 700 618 LBS
4.) $9,590 BMW C600Sport 549 LBS
5.) $9,270 HONDA Silverwing 600 550 LBS
Wow...nearly 250kg (C600 Sport) for a scooter? Just seems heavy to me. But then again, I only have an LX.
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True enough - it's a really big scooter. But, it's lighter than all the other really big scooters. When you and I are cruising at U.S. highway speeds with a 20 mph cross wind you might see where weight can be an advantage.
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Definitely a bargin compared to competing large scoots. I didn't even consider the others. Hopefully, BMW will spur some more innovative larger scoots in the US. Maybe force Yamaha to bring back the Tmax.

The weight isn't an issue for me, but it definitely isn't a featherweight coming from a Vespa. It doesn't feel heavy as the weight is really low. You only feel the weight it when pushing the scoot around in garage or trying to manuever backwards into a parking spot I'm used to it now.

At higher speeds, the weight is an asset though. It doesn't have that squirrely feeling from the smaller wheels and you don't feel like you will get blown out of your lane. My c600 at 65mph feels like my GTS at 35mph.
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OLD i'd want the weight for freeway riding also. That's why i won't take mine on there now. My Helix was heavier. Between the gulches and trucks the LX is way to light IMHO. I'm sure others will disagree but maybe i'm getting soft in my old age. Laughing emoticon
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Plus the BMW looks a lot better than the Burgman, and is great to ride.
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Not sure the right prices "with options" on the other scoots, but those prices for the BMW's are stripped down, sans options and the few dealerships that I occasionally check inventory (TN, KY and GA) don't buy any without the option package that adds about $1000.

Option includes heated seat and grips, so if the other bikes include that in the base, then need to compare the right amounts.

Not knocking the bmw at all - I agree it is best value in this range scooter.
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DaveLX wrote:
Wow...nearly 250kg (C600 Sport) for a scooter? Just seems heavy to me. But then again, I only have an LX.
An MP3 500 weighs 262 kg (577 lbs) and an MP3 400 weighs 253 kg (557 lbs).
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Wow...nearly 250kg (C600 Sport) for a scooter? Just seems heavy to me. But then again, I only have an LX.
An MP3 500 weighs 262 kg (577 lbs) and an MP3 400 weighs 253 kg (557 lbs).
...and I don't think I'd have either of those two, based on the weight.

It's just a personal thing, but for me, a PTW should be light and efficient. Then again, we all define "efficient" differently. For some, it's carrying capacity, others it's MPG.

Each to his or her own, of course! Once I pass my test, I may well end up on a big old heavy H-D....
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Not sure the right prices "with options" on the other scoots, but those prices for the BMW's are stripped down, sans options and the few dealerships that I occasionally check inventory (TN, KY and GA) don't buy any without the option package that adds about $1000.

Option includes heated seat and grips, so if the other bikes include that in the base, then need to compare the right amounts.

Not knocking the bmw at all - I agree it is best value in this range scooter.
Very few of the BMWs are sold without the highline package (heated grips/seat & TPM). When I was looking, I couldn't find a single dealer that had one without it. It adds like $500 to the price which is a bargin imho. The dealers I called weren't even charging for it. With the incentives, my c600 was under $9k with the highline package.

I think the scoot is a good value. It definitely isn't for everyone though, but if you get to ride one, trust me when I say you will be grinning from ear to ear. Definitely don't bring your check book to the dealer.

We will see how the reliability/maintenance is over time, but right now I couldn't be happier with it.
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Dooglas wrote:
DaveLX wrote:
Wow...nearly 250kg (C600 Sport) for a scooter? Just seems heavy to me. But then again, I only have an LX.
An MP3 500 weighs 262 kg (577 lbs) and an MP3 400 weighs 253 kg (557 lbs).
...and I don't think I'd have either of those two, based on the weight.

It's just a personal thing, but for me, a PTW should be light and efficient. Then again, we all define "efficient" differently. For some, it's carrying capacity, others it's MPG.

Each to his or her own, of course! Once I pass my test, I may well end up on a big old heavy H-D....
DavidLX - For your purposes a scooter should be "light and efficient" and happily that is what suits your purposes. Other riders are looking for other attributes in a bike that suit their purposes. The best solution might be to have several bikes that suit different purposes. In the final analysis it is to each his own.
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Thats a little heavy in all the scoots shown

I ordered a 2014 Hyper SP , nice discount and 377 lbs

This is to replace my 2012 Pikes Peak Multistrada

almost the same as my gts300

I will do another 1600 miles on it from the dealer to home this coming summer

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Oldscoot wrote:
DaveLX wrote:
Dooglas wrote:
DaveLX wrote:
Wow...nearly 250kg (C600 Sport) for a scooter? Just seems heavy to me. But then again, I only have an LX.
An MP3 500 weighs 262 kg (577 lbs) and an MP3 400 weighs 253 kg (557 lbs).
...and I don't think I'd have either of those two, based on the weight.

It's just a personal thing, but for me, a PTW should be light and efficient. Then again, we all define "efficient" differently. For some, it's carrying capacity, others it's MPG.

Each to his or her own, of course! Once I pass my test, I may well end up on a big old heavy H-D....
DavidLX - For your purposes a scooter should be "light and efficient" and happily that is what suits your purposes. Other riders are looking for other attributes in a bike that suit their purposes. The best solution might be to have several bikes that suit different purposes. In the final analysis it is to each his own.
That's why I said Each to his or her own, of course!

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Thats a little heavy in all the scoots shown

I ordered a 2014 Hyper SP , nice discount and 377 lbs

This is to replace my 2012 Pikes Peak Multistrada

almost the same as my gts300

I will do another 1600 miles on it from the dealer to home this coming summer

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Now that's more my cup of tea!
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Exactly...
I think of those big maxis as "squatters", especially when a 600cc "scooter" costs and weighs more than an Aprilia Shiver (750cc performance bike with a reasonable seating position--for the front position anyway.)
DaveLX wrote:
GEE-BEE wrote:
Thats a little heavy in all the scoots shown
I ordered a 2014 Hyper SP , nice discount and 377 lbs
This is to replace my 2012 Pikes Peak Multistrada
almost the same as my gts300
I will do another 1600 miles on it from the dealer to home this coming summer
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Now that's more my cup of tea!
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Those prices make me cry a little. If it was only 10k I'd have considered it, but the BMW is $16,000 or so over here

A GTS 300 is like $10k

I suppose it is all a measure of comfort, storage, efficiency, and aesthetics.

I'm on the baby maxi, honda forza 300 which was the reflex in the states I think...which is still bigger and heavier than a whole lot of bikes with WAY more power that cost about the same.

I'm at a little over 200kg. I think its about the heaviest for its class of mid-sized scoot. I learned the hard way to never put up the centerstand on the easy downhill side of the hill. Hard to push it back up hill off the stand!

That said...I like the BMW's...but over here they are pricier for some reason. I could get the TMax or the Majesty from yamaha for a bit less. I think the burger is just about spot on though. The 650 at least.
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In response to someone's question on weight, ya maxi scoots are huge I bet my buddies burgman could carry my px
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Re: weight
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Thats a little heavy in all the scoots shown

I ordered a 2014 Hyper SP , nice discount and 377 lbs

This is to replace my 2012 Pikes Peak Multistrada

almost the same as my gts300

I will do another 1600 miles on it from the dealer to home this coming summer

GB
I'm happy for you and your new bike - ride safely. However, I was writing about maxi-scooters, not motorcycles and I was not comparing the two. I also wasn't comparing maxi-scooters to smaller 150 c.c. bikes either. I was pointing out that within its "class" the BMW C 600 Sport weighs the least and all things considered, is relatively less expensive. That's all. If I wanted to buy a light, Italian, motorcycle I might consider the 341.7 lb. 2014 Ducati 1199 Superleggera. But then, because I value the parts of me that have not already been injured, I probably wouldn't.
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I like BMW

Seen a Burgman today and owner said his has an option Bmw doesn't have.

Some buttons that change the gearing.And wind screen doesnt move.He was more worried about me on a 50 lol Watch your mirrors he said!

I didn't tell him I've had some of the fastest production bikes ever built.hehe
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Re: weight
Oldscoot wrote:
GEE-BEE wrote:
Thats a little heavy in all the scoots shown

I ordered a 2014 Hyper SP , nice discount and 377 lbs

This is to replace my 2012 Pikes Peak Multistrada

almost the same as my gts300

I will do another 1600 miles on it from the dealer to home this coming summer

GB
I'm happy for you and your new bike - ride safely. However, I was writing about maxi-scooters, not motorcycles and I was not comparing the two. I also wasn't comparing maxi-scooters to smaller 150 c.c. bikes either. I was pointing out that within its "class" the BMW C 600 Sport weighs the least and all things considered, is relatively less expensive. That's all. If I wanted to buy a light, Italian, motorcycle I might consider the 341.7 lb. 2014 Ducati 1199 Superleggera. But then, because I value the parts of me that have not already been injured, I probably wouldn't.
Indeed. We now return to our regularly scheduled program already in progress....

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I know the Tmax isn't available in the US but it still is in Canada and at 482 lbs wet it's the lightweight in this class. As noted by others you only notice the weight when pushing it around.
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I know the Tmax isn't available in the US but it still is in Canada and at 482 lbs wet it's the lightweight in this class. As noted by others you only notice the weight when pushing it around.
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Good point. I'm a big fan of the Tmax and I was only looking at bikes available in the U.S. and I should have made that qualification.
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