Modern Vespa

for real.. I'd think cooling would just be one issue.. looks like the kind of custom piece where issues are kind of built in.. maybe not.. who knows.. I'd love to talk to the builder.. there's definitely a lot going on there.

love, love is strange

Love the 50 specials... Those plastic horncasts are my favorite Vespa "thing".. Just love 'em.

Wicked motors, Vader, thanks for sharing! I like the 2 cylinder details, shade tree engineering at it's best. Imagine a 266cc smallie.

Meanwhile, I did some work on tires, wheels AND hubs. Tires went up to 3.50x10, front & back. Wheels got the deluxe clean, wirebrush, sand, clean w/ laquer thinner, prime, light sand, silver base & clear coat treatment. Rear hub was wire brushed & front PK hub was replaced w/ older P hub that looks more like the Primavera hub on the back.

To celebrate & test the new setup, I took a little ride down to the port. It's been hot here & I was in shorts & Tshirt, but it started raining so no speed run test today, but those bigger tires felt great & motor pulls them no sweat..

love that road-warrior smallie Terry

My Primavera (1977) and Special (1973).

Beautiful pair of bikes.. I love the Special.. the orange is great, and I love that silver horn-cast.. very nice.

Update on my SS90 now that my engine is now in the beauty. I hope you enjoy the pics!

Damn that's SO CLEAN I can't help but love it. Looks beautiful.

Thanks Vader for the kind words however inside the tank is not as clean.

It's not rusty just like old fuel and grime and seems a little oily. Should I just fill with fuel and empty it out? Might do some searches on MV and see what everyone else normally does.

That's a beauty scoot and an amazing paint job, really top notch. I'm not familiar w/ real 'pro' work, is it single stage waxed nicely or clear coated two stage?

For your tank, you could pull it & flush w/ gas. To be sure you might want to remove & clean or replace the tap. If the tank needs more serious cleaning, you'll find several threads on the subject.

I think yours is the first 90SS we've had in this thread. I like how your pic shows there's more to it than just a cut down leg shield & mini headset, it's a whole different shape. BTW, your fan cover caught my eye, never seen one like that - another unique feature of the 90SS?

Hi small framers. I picked up a few parts a while back for small frames. Here is what I have. Willing to trade for large frame accessories or sell outright. Stay safe out there-

Yes, its the original formula based on the Max Meyer code 1.298.7220 which converts to PPG code 220 for Blu Pavone (Peacock Blue), which is a solid finish so no lacquer or single stage as you put it.

Very happy with the end result but then again the painter who did the work is a true artist, not just with the paint but also the body work that was stripped to bear metal and was all panel beaten. Thanks, I will give that a try and use the old tap to plug it up as I have bought a brand new one and I don't want to get the new one messed up. You are right about a different shape;

Dimensions of a Primavera125 on the left versus the SS90 dimensions on the right
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Total Length : (VMA2) = 1665, (SS90) = 1650
Wheel Base : (VMA2) = 1180, (SS90) = 1165
Width : (VMA2) = 670, (SS90) = 550
Height : (VMA2) = 1015, (SS90) = 1000

Getting my smallframe back!!!

Did not sell consignment and the dealer/shop couldn't fix it so it's coming back to the fold.

This time we will fix it up, cherish it and keep it for my son.

Let's see how it goes.

It's "VADERCLEAN"®



vaderclean is a registered trademark of Detroitable.com

Haaaa.. any clean is good clean in my book. but Vaderclean does have a nice ring to it. keep 'em clean and they'll love you back.

Can you guys please advise I was just about to order a SIP road but have found a Sito Plus both banana type pipes for about $50 cheaper which would you guys opt for

I'd go for the SIP Road over the Sito banana.

The Road exhaust has a larger exhaust manifold diameter and gave me more mid range pull and revs out a little bit more over the Sito. The only positive aspect of the Sito is the easy removal (the same as the stock Piaggio). The SIP exhaust requires a spring tool and some high temp copper sealant at the joint.
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toofsy

Nice scoot! I'm interested in that low profile rear rack. Home made or where did you pick it up? Also does the spare tire cover work as a fuel container too?

thanks mr.J,
the tire cover isn't a fuel tank , it's only for the look...but usefull to put gloves.
I bought the rear rack to Damiano from Vespazza.com
He also offers an interresting fuel tank...

There is so little feedback on this exhaust. On the German forums people mentioned there was a fit problem in the first batch shipped and it seemed to turn a lot of people off to the exhaust in general.

I'm curious if you know what diameter the exhaust manifold is at the cylinder? Or if it was significant enough to warrant porting the cylinder to match? Like they do with the big budget expansion chambers.

Good stuff toofsy! Thanks for the info. Just took a quick measurement with the digi-calipers: *intenal diameter

exhaust port at cylinder (polini): 26.25mm
exhaust port at cylinder (et3): 26.28mm (i'd say pretty equal)

exhaust stock piaggio banana (25mm)
SIP Road exhaust (28.15mm)
-I don't have a Sito to compare (I gave it away to another member)

I think the SIP road that I've got is one of the earlier versions. It was a pain to fit but with a little dremel persuasion on the bracket to swingarm, I made it work.

You'll only benefit when you port match the SIP exhaust. I have had a chance to try them both and just saying the SIP to me was worth the extra coin.

To be honest I do like the optics and exhaust manifold of the Pinasco banana but the cost is a drawback. I also wouldn't discount the Polini snail, it can hang with the SIP banana.

Wow, thanks! I wasn't really expecting cold hard number like that, very cool. 25 to 28 mm is pretty significant. I always wondered about the actual numbers on the SIP banana manifold. I remember reading that in Germany they where adapting 30mm exhaust manifolds to go with those ETS style bananas. I assumed the SIP was a similar setup.

I've read that the Pinasco is absolute crap, the coating falls off and its really a non performer as a tuning item. They do look nice. I don't really care for the looks of the Polini snail I guess if I was going to get all sporty on it I'd go all the way to a pm40 or vsp.

Hi all, here's my 1969 Vespa 50L small frame. Original 50cc motor in there but got a 110cc kit fitted.

a lovely looking scoot and great colour.............................................
george

Some nice smallies showing up here. RE muffler options, don't overlook that new Simonini. Look here https://modernvespa.com/forum/post1993551#1993551

toofsy - tidy bike and sweet rack, never seen that one before. Thanks for the info on it. Welcome Matt, your little scooter is a beauty, SO clean and in top condition from your pics. A little history? How long have you had it and was it 'restored'? If so, great job!

Thanks! It looks a little better in the photos than it does in real life...it's in need of some winter TLC.

As for history, I don't know much. It was made in 1969 and sold to the Italian market. It was imported to the UK in 2001 and given an overhaul (I won't say restoration as I don't think it was that comprehensive). It was UK registered in 2006. I bought it earlier this year from a local chap.

at least if you are in Britain where you can now buy a brand new PK* for under £2000.



*the fine print: The Star Lite Automatic , the latest in the family LML, is characterized by vintage style and is designed to give better handling and ease of driving in urban thanks to the weight and compact size combined with a continuously variable transmission. Available in 125 cc, 4T Star Lite Auto enjoy low power consumption up to 45 km per liter of petrol

Hey, nice to see the style lives

It's time to bring the Smallframe page to the top. I've not been able to find a large frame rally or P200 and I especially like orange. So I could not help myself when this came up.

Its going to need a tank, speedo, headlight assemby, and battery side door and others.

Cool story behind this scoot that I'll share later. Here are some pics for now.

Saw that in Portland. Looks strait and clean although it's missing a fare amount of stuffs. Am I correct it needs an engine as well? What's your plan?

That's the one. I have a couple of options for engines for this one already. It's the side door I think that will be the harder part to source.

I'm just going to clean it up, all new cables and maybe wiring and then think about selling my 50 Special. I am helping a neighbor kid w/ his V90 right now so we are planning to build an engine stand first.

Is it really late 80s? I thought the later US smallies had P-style switchgear (100 sport, etc. come to mind). That looks like the same switchgear as my 74.

PS if you ditch the signals I'd be interested.

My '74 orange v90 is identical and has the same switch covers as well. I would also assume yours is also a late 70's model. Glad you have the parts and plan to leave it original. It should clean up quite nicely.

Yes, Your are correct, sir! It is a 74. I am hoping to find the front signals eventually and keep it completely stock. Even though some think the signals are ugly, I like them.

Everyone here at MV has been so helpful to me! If I decide to get rid of the signals, they are yours.

Cheers for now!

Those rear signals are repops. A few shops sell them. They're much bigger than the originals.

I agree. I keep them on my US scoots too.

Glad to hear I'm not alone in the weird "I like the signals" club. I kept them on my Serveta too when it would have been easier to ditch them. 8)

A few pics of our Primavera just restored, all standard. It was in boxes when we picked her up and the frame was in a bad way. Quite a few pointers picked up from this site along the way so thanks all..
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Nice smallie! Welcome to NSMV! What did you do for engine? Stock? Upgrades?