Thu Jun 18, 2020 7:46 am

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Thu Jun 18, 2020 7:46 am linkquote
^^^show off
Thu Jun 18, 2020 7:56 am

Molto Verboso
Vespa
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Molto Verboso
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Thu Jun 18, 2020 7:56 am linkquote
cute 90SS too small for me though
Sat Jun 20, 2020 3:46 am

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Sat Jun 20, 2020 3:46 am linkquote
Thanks. It has a 135 Malossi kit fitted and genuinely scares me
Sun Jun 21, 2020 5:32 pm

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Sun Jun 21, 2020 5:32 pm linkquote
My small door v90 with Polini 133 kit and a pipe. Literally the most fun scooter Ive ever ridden.



Sun Jun 21, 2020 5:35 pm

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Sun Jun 21, 2020 5:35 pm linkquote
One more pic



Sun Jul 12, 2020 9:55 am

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Sun Jul 12, 2020 9:55 am linkquote
Pretty excited about this addition





Sun Jul 12, 2020 10:47 am

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Sun Jul 12, 2020 10:47 am linkquote
Older PK125L w/ metal base headset etc? 8)

I would be rather excited too !

You gonna do anything to the motor beyond stockish? Please keep us posted.
Sun Jul 12, 2020 12:21 pm

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Sun Jul 12, 2020 12:21 pm linkquote
Oh heck yes, excitement is in order!! Heaps of potential....
Sun Jul 12, 2020 12:31 pm

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Sun Jul 12, 2020 12:31 pm linkquote
Really want to keep the spare so, yes, stockish. Can't decide if I want to bastardize the case(of course I do), or leave it alone for future generations to befoul. I'm talking about rolling over all the 90 degree stuff like the bearing journal castings. Or save that silliness for my sip cases.
Sun Jul 12, 2020 12:35 pm

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Sun Jul 12, 2020 12:35 pm linkquote
scootermarc69 wrote:
Pretty excited about this addition
That PK125XL is one of the finest put together "modern" Smallframes ever built. 20mm fork, big taper crank, bigger fly side crank bearing, powerful stator, great brakes, spare tire under the cowl. Top sped is 55-60mph on the flat road. No real need to kit that scooter. Keep it stock and rock!...(well, maybe install a short 4th if you ride lots of hills and headwinds).
Sun Jul 12, 2020 12:59 pm

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Sun Jul 12, 2020 12:59 pm linkquote
whodatschrome wrote:
scootermarc69 wrote:
Pretty excited about this addition
!...(well, maybe install a short 4th if you ride lots of hills and headwinds).
That's what I was thinking!
I actually have a DRT parma loose 4th, but it requires one of his trees in conjunction. There might be a loose 4th that works with the stock tree, idk.
Sun Jul 12, 2020 9:19 pm

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Sun Jul 12, 2020 9:19 pm linkquote
scootermarc69 wrote:
whodatschrome wrote:
scootermarc69 wrote:
Pretty excited about this addition
!...(well, maybe install a short 4th if you ride lots of hills and headwinds).
That's what I was thinking!
I actually have a DRT parma loose 4th, but it requires one of his trees in conjunction. There might be a loose 4th that works with the stock tree, idk.
Long time ago DRT used to make a 48 tooth short fourth gear that would fit with the stock tree (the part # on the gear was F097748). I think it was discontinued close to 7-8 years ago? Nowadays it's a more expensive endevor since you would need that tree as well.

The SIP smallframe cases are pretty sweet looking. It would take a whole lot of time and money to get the PKXL's VMX6M cases even close to to SIP's. I'd be completely chuffed about getting that PXKL in the first place, and would either keep those cases stock, or put them on the top shelf to collect dust while you build up an engine using SIP cases.
Mon Jul 13, 2020 6:45 am

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Mon Jul 13, 2020 6:45 am linkquote
scootermarc69 wrote:
Pretty excited about this addition


At first I thought it was this one, currently up on ScootNet for serious money, but apparently not.
Mon Jul 13, 2020 8:28 am

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Mon Jul 13, 2020 8:28 am linkquote
V oodoo wrote:
scootermarc69 wrote:
Pretty excited about this addition


At first I thought it was this one, currently up on ScootNet for serious money, but apparently not.
Saw that one. What is the difference between the PKXL and the ETS? ETS has the 24/25 crank and PKXL has the 20/20 crank? ETS has floor rails, my PKXL has a mat like thing instead. Anything else? front hub looks different. PKXL has a larger plug for the axle nut. PKXL has some wide ass drums, not sure how they compare to the ETS.
Mon Jul 13, 2020 9:39 am

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Mon Jul 13, 2020 9:39 am linkquote
Most differences are cosmetic. Different seat, turn signals, rear bumper, floor rails, horn cast, headset. PKXL and ETS share the same P-style 20mm fork with 'anti-dive' style shock. Both should use the P-series brake shoes front and back. Big hubs on both ends. No spare tire as the ETS banana muffler took up that space. Engine-wise; Some PKXL came with 24/25 crank. Slightly longer rotary crank timings on the ETS crankshaft. 20/20 carb instead of 19/19 which uses a different manifold. Easy bolt-on. Dykes-ring piston on the ETS engine. 2nd gen clutch with the long lever cover and one big spring. PKXL came with 2nd gen and 3rd gen clutch (6-spring PKXL2) depending on production run. Otherwise, quite similar.

Great find!















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Mon Jul 13, 2020 9:53 am

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Mon Jul 13, 2020 9:53 am linkquote
The ETS and PK125XL both have the awesome large taper 24/25 crank!
The ETS and PK125XL should both have the same brakes and hubs. In the scoot.net ad, the ETS does appear to have a much smaller hub nut cover. I'm wondering if someone swapped out the stock 20mm fork for something smaller?..or hopefully just a crappy aftermarket front brake drum was installed instead? The only way to tell really is to get pics of the other side of the ETS.

The PKXL has different-
-floormat
-taillight (ETS has a ET3 taillight)
-turn signals (PKXL are flush-ish).
-upper headset cover
-an actual spare tire carrier (under the cowl). No carrier on the ETS.
-panel release latches that are located under the seat
-different exhaust
-horncast cover is slightly, slightly different

I think what makes the ETS faster is the exhaust? The PKXL also comes with an ETS cylinder head. I think the PKXL also comes with a 20mil carb (same as the ETS).

So which scooter is better?...well, it's probably best to own both!
Mon Jul 13, 2020 10:40 am

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Mon Jul 13, 2020 10:40 am linkquote
The ETS is very desirable at the moment and their prices have gone up. They're not considered 100% PKs (although based on them) and people are usually offended if someone calls it a PK. It's called P 125 ETS and for me at least, it's one of the best smallframe Vespas created by Piaggio. You could maybe call it a smallframe P or T5...

It also now has some very hard to find parts that go for "silly" money (indicators, headset top, decals & badges, exhaust, etc.)...
Mon Jul 13, 2020 1:40 pm

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Mon Jul 13, 2020 1:40 pm linkquote
Curious, does it also have the superior IMO, single cable shifter like the XL2 and Cosa II?
Mon Jul 13, 2020 2:29 pm

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Mon Jul 13, 2020 2:29 pm linkquote
V oodoo wrote:
Curious, does it also have the superior IMO, single cable shifter like the XL2 and Cosa II?
2 gear cables
Mon Jul 13, 2020 3:02 pm

Sergeant at Arms
Weird 80's Vespas & Cool Vintage Lambrettas
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Mon Jul 13, 2020 3:02 pm linkquote
jeanshorts, you dirty birdy why you gotta be copying me!?

excellent score. great bike. so much fun to ride.

i've long since adios'd my spare to make room for a pipe. can't really complain, but i like to get silly like that.

if you've got the parts snap 'em on and roll. you'll be happy you did!

-g
Sat Jul 18, 2020 6:20 am

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Sat Jul 18, 2020 6:20 am linkquote
DEA getting serious about smallframes:

https://www.facebook.com/DeaEngineering/posts/2075009419297820
Sun Jul 19, 2020 2:23 pm

Veni, Vidi, Posti
74 Super, 75 Super, PX project, LML off-roader and new to 2018, '66 Blue Badge Smallframe
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Sun Jul 19, 2020 2:23 pm linkquote
oopsclunkthud wrote:
Now that's impressive.
Sun Jul 19, 2020 5:51 pm

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Sun Jul 19, 2020 5:51 pm linkquote
Full run on the embedded vid.

*click the link for the last pull on the dyno and results 8)

https://youtu.be/2Ez-2yKmlMQ?t=213
Wed Jul 22, 2020 7:20 pm

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Wed Jul 22, 2020 7:20 pm linkquote
Started to think my smallie is like a interstate busses 500km since monday and keep ongoing


300km distance and 12 hours, talk about a slow punk


Another 200km for today

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Fri Jan 01, 2021 3:39 pm

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Fri Jan 01, 2021 3:39 pm linkquote
Before and after - 1987 PK 50 XL












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Fri Jan 01, 2021 3:44 pm

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Fri Jan 01, 2021 3:44 pm linkquote
Very nice. I love the color orange too.
Fri Jan 01, 2021 3:47 pm

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Fri Jan 01, 2021 3:47 pm linkquote
Oh yea! Nice work
Fri Jan 01, 2021 3:54 pm

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Fri Jan 01, 2021 3:54 pm linkquote
Thanks guys. We worked with friend 1.5 year on this PK.
Fri Jan 01, 2021 3:57 pm

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Fri Jan 01, 2021 3:57 pm linkquote
I Hope you have orange doors for it.
Fri Jan 01, 2021 4:01 pm

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Fri Jan 01, 2021 4:01 pm linkquote
smallframenyc wrote:
I Hope you have orange doors for it.
Yes.
Doors, spare wheel, mirror, badges and side stand already on their places.
Fri Jan 01, 2021 5:43 pm

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Fri Jan 01, 2021 5:43 pm linkquote
Beautiful. Looks like a scooter t5bitza would be proud of.
Mon Jan 04, 2021 10:20 am

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Mon Jan 04, 2021 10:20 am linkquote
Also, anyone know of a left side battery door for sale?
Much appreciated. For a74 primavera




Yeah that door...

Fri Jan 22, 2021 3:14 pm

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Vespa 125 VMA, Vespa SS 180
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Fri Jan 22, 2021 3:14 pm linkquote
I found a nice small door 90. I couldn't pass on it when I saw the original paint was so nice. The engine was in parts in a box. Anyone tried raising and widening the exhaust port and decking the head to get a little more pep out of it? Thought I might try it, along with a better muffler and bigger carb.





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Sat Jun 12, 2021 4:24 am

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Sat Jun 12, 2021 4:24 am linkquote
Found what for me is a simple way to fit the outer front brake and clutch cables thru the control tubes.
Thread the inner cable thru the inner cable thru the lever and tube and leave about 6" out thru the speedo opening.
Coil add tape the rest of cables to grip area.
Fit the headset over the fork top.
Thread the inners thru the outers and secure a trunnion snig against the long end.
Squeeze the lever, move the trunnion repeat until done.
Be sure the top hat is seated in its recess. Wiggle a little if necessary.
Job done. No swearing or scrapes fingers.





Sat Jun 12, 2021 4:27 am

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Sat Jun 12, 2021 4:27 am linkquote
Looks easier with a clamshell speedo. You can at least approach some of it from up top. Round speedo headsets that angle is much more difficult. Tiny hole. Fat fingers!

Nice tip and i love that color!
Sat Jun 12, 2021 6:27 am

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Sat Jun 12, 2021 6:27 am linkquote
Swiss
Had all that fun with the 64. I think it will work on the round speedo 105mm headset equally well.
Hopeful I won't need to replace any cable outers on the 64 any time soon.
Sat Jun 19, 2021 6:40 am

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Sat Jun 19, 2021 6:40 am linkquote
I think the fork may be modified, too bad there are not more pics...
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https://www.car.gr/classifieds/bikes/view/25111543-vespa-50-gia-enoikiasi



Sat Jun 19, 2021 8:06 am

Molto Verboso
'64 Motovespa 150S (177) , '66 Allstate SF, '65 VBB, '66 180SS
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Sat Jun 19, 2021 8:06 am linkquote
I don't get it... I see only one wheel.
Sat Jun 19, 2021 8:25 am

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Sat Jun 19, 2021 8:25 am linkquote
I can see two, and assume 3rd is just hiding behind the rear wheel.
Notice the big orange box where the legshield should be...
Sat Jun 19, 2021 8:35 am

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Sat Jun 19, 2021 8:35 am linkquote
Yep, found this on their website:



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