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I used to use a large frame clutch holder until my buddy Diego made me one like this.. If you can weld you could make one.
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I also found that scooter mercato list their largeframe clutch holding tool as also fitting smallframes?
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I know some of you build the clutch in the bike, Vader is that what yours is for? I tried once and decided I'd rather build it out of the bike. An assembled clutch is a tough thing to stop though....
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Hard enough with one spring but aligning six with limited access and the engine upright? Fugheddaboutit.
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The factory tool for holding the basket with the assembled clutch has one tab that slips under the plates and rests on the outer basket. It has a bump on the outer edge that contacts the cases. It works, mostly, but I have had it bend the basket.

A penny is better, preferably the new zinc centered ones.

Both tools shown look way better to me and building the clutch up with the baskets in place will forever more be the method I follow.
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I know some of you build the clutch in the bike, Vader is that what yours is for? I tried once and decided I'd rather build it out of the bike. An assembled clutch is a tough thing to stop though....
John, I came up with that tool because i was having a difficult time trusting torque values by just zipping on the spider with an air tool. Most of the new high end performance clutches are too thick to drop in pre assembled so you must assemble in the case.

The tool is to hold the spider allowing you to use a torque wrench to correctly torque the inner spider to the tree. and you're absolutely right the STOCK 6 spring PK style clutches are extremely difficult to build in the bike however it is extremely easy and saves you around half the time to plate swap in the bike... i mean the spider and the springs are already in the bike right?
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Just picked up this non-running 1977 et3
Added gas. Changed oil. Put a "ok" seat on it, until our next SIP order. the seat that was on it was garbage.
I need to clean the carb... It started right up! Honestly one of my best buys!
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Just picked up this non-running 1977 et3
one of my best buys!
I was so happy when i got my et3 home and kicked it.

Without a glitch it started. I was riding it after an hour of adjustments and carbcleaning.

The thing had been sitting in a backyard under a grill tarp for 6 years.

You have to love the blue carpet in the glovebox. And dont remove it. Its stock.
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Nuttmeg44 wrote:
Just picked up this non-running 1977 et3
one of my best buys!
I was so happy when i got my et3 home and kicked it.

Without a glitch it started. I was riding it after an hour of adjustments and carbcleaning.

The thing had been sitting in a backyard under a grill tarp for 6 years.

You have to love the blue carpet in the glovebox. And dont remove it. Its stock.
Sadly there is no carpet in the cowl box. Just a cdi and voltage regulator.

Since we brought it home we have.... Added fresh gas, air in tires, change engine oil. Bike started after a few kicks. Test ride and it died. Cleaned carb. Died again, coasted 2 blocks home. Checked plug. Removed cylinder. Blow-out galore. Cleaned up and tighten cylinder. Adjusted carb. Viola. Scheduled state inspection for March.

It hasn't been ran for a few years and stored outside for the better part of it.
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The 1964 v90 is coming together. Yay!!!
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My wife is a native of beautiful Fresno, California. So while visiting her parents this week, she will be delivering my PV125 top end to the ever talented Hot Rod Al. I'm very excited about the results.
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Pics when it happens, but details on what Al's doing for you now, please!
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Pics when it happens, but details on what Al's doing for you now, please!
I'm debating how radical I want to go. My clubmate had Al do an Alpha Tune on his top-end. (build up here: 79 P200 Overhaul )
Al shipped it back yesterday. I may not go that radical but, then again. Once Al get's the hardware, we'll talk more about what I want to get out of the bike. I may just split it open and toss in a flowed crank, hog out the chewed up rotary pad, and get that short 4th. That's why I was holding out on the top end in the first place. The can of worms is now open.
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PK Ignition
Anyone converted a Smallframe to PK style ignition? Any specific hurdles?
I.E. Do you need a PK crank to fit the flywheel?
Would you need to use a PK wireloom, and what switches etc need to go with that?
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Ask Rob Hodge but I think you need to swap the crank. Supposed to be nice though, all the good electronic kits are PK based.
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You need at PK-crank (at least 20 mm cone). Be ware that you need to change the oil seal to a 20 mm.
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Tough to beat pinstriping on a weathered scoot. Looking good meg
Thanks Jackson85!

A better seat for it. The engine door was with the bike but not easily repairable, so we opted for the chrome one from SIP. New floor rails arrived as these are falling off and are made for a P-series and not a small frame. Oh and a silly swan fender crest too! Headed to hardware store as I can't find enough bolts to hold the seat and gas tank on the scoot. I love this well loved little scoot.
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Re: PK Ignition
67GT125 wrote:
Anyone converted a Smallframe to PK style ignition? Any specific hurdles?
I.E. Do you need a PK crank to fit the flywheel?
Would you need to use a PK wireloom, and what switches etc need to go with that?
this is something we are going to do to the '78 v90. We need a bigger crank, adding a 4th gear. CDI already in hand.

Not sure how I keep all these bikes straight....
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Tough to beat pinstriping on a weathered scoot. Looking good meg
Thanks Jackson85!

A better seat for it. The engine door was with the bike but not easily repairable, so we opted for the chrome one from SIP. New floor rails arrived as these are falling off and are made for a P-series and not a small frame. Oh and a silly swan fender crest too! Headed to hardware store as I can't find enough bolts to hold the seat and gas tank on the scoot. I love this well loved little scoot.
Is that a Special 50 seat? I'm considering one. How do you like it?
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It is a 50 special seat. the lesser expensive of the two black ones on SIP that I found. So far I like it, but I have not ridden this bike yet, too cold and no license plate. It looks way better than the crosa seat because it fits the lines of the frame. The bracket needs a little tweaking because the bolts that will hold the seat do not fit through the bracket easily. Nothing a little drilling won't help.
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Where's V oodoo?
Mr. Voodoo.. can you pick that up for me?

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I've seen voodoo's collection. this doesn't quite seem to fit. He might need to sell me the 50n first. Razz emoticon
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http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/mcy/4860010777.html

Where's V oodoo?
Yep, not a bad deal at all and I've previously bought a scooter and a lot more from this source. That's Mr Hodge's address if you didn't notice, so you can trust that he knows what he's selling.

But I need to stop adding random scooters and sell a few. Nuttmeg, let's talk! How many smallies do you have now, running or not?
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I have to sell my Lambretta before anything else comes into this garage. We have reached capacity I am quite fond of the 50n. Maybe it will be rideable next time Dan and I pay a visit.
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Vader19 wrote:
MJRally wrote:
Where's V oodoo?
Mr. Voodoo.. can you pick that up for me?

Hook a brotha up! I'm sure the Mrs. wouldn't mind you storing one for a friend.
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I thought about that small frame in Hodge's collection also. I have one that body style already and that is what turned me away from it. He did have one covered in beer stickers that I had hoped my husband would of gotten though.
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It is a 50 special seat. the lesser expensive of the two black ones on SIP that I found. So far I like it, but I have not ridden this bike yet, too cold and no license plate. It looks way better than the crosa seat because it fits the lines of the frame. The bracket needs a little tweaking because the bolts that will hold the seat do not fit through the bracket easily. Nothing a little drilling won't help.
So, no Vermont plate yet?
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Nuttmeg44 wrote:
It is a 50 special seat. the lesser expensive of the two black ones on SIP that I found. So far I like it, but I have not ridden this bike yet, too cold and no license plate. It looks way better than the crosa seat because it fits the lines of the frame. The bracket needs a little tweaking because the bolts that will hold the seat do not fit through the bracket easily. Nothing a little drilling won't help.
So, no Vermont plate yet?
I finally got a response from Vermont. I screwed up on the amount I need to pay them, new check will be in the mail and hopefully I can get a plate for it sooner than later.
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My 90SS is finally painted in the original blue that I had to track down the original formula in Italy. The finish is 2k so not lacquer top coat but still has a brilliant shine to it, really happy with the results.
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that is a lovely blue

gonna be top notch






edit, that whipper snipper on the other hand is a joke Razz emoticon do yourself a favour and buy a shindaiwa, kawasaki or even stihl...
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That's looks good enough to eat.. very nice.

Where's the jealous button?
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Thanks guys, should have further progress very shortly as the engine is complete and all the parts arrived months ago.

The only problem is the Mauro Pascoli seat seems to sit a bit high between the frame and the seat base. Maybe the leather is suppose to sag a bit to reduce the gap, not sure really but will cross that bridge when it is put back together. Bit surprised really as the seat was really expensive too.
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I made one from a piece of heavy screen fence.

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It helps that I have that heavy guard ring that retains it.
It helps that I have that heavy guard ring that retains it.
I glued a piece of black rubber edge molding around the rim
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Got my motor mounted this afternoon. Next up - refresh the front end, then cabling and wiring. On the home stretch now.
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That looks great!
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