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Thanks pacrat! I think I'll get one too.
If I am remembering correctly, I had to bend those two clamp bolts that hook to the horn.

Show us a pic when it arrives! I am now contemplating an engine build. 75cc is not quick enough in traffic around here and hill climbing is non existant! I should have been doing this when it was cold outside!

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sdjohn wrote:
Thanks pacrat! I think I'll get one too.
If I am remembering correctly, I had to bend those two clamp bolts that hook to the horn.

Show us a pic when it arrives! I am now contemplating an engine build. 75cc is not quick enough in traffic around here and hill climbing is non existant! I should have been doing this when it was cold outside!

Cheers,

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What are your current setup? How much bigger cylinder do you think you'll need for increased hill climbing ability?

Thinking about upgrading my stock Vespa 50 with a bigger cylinder, exhaust and carburetor.
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Hi,

Have been reading the forum for a while, time to introduce myself.

My name is Jeroen, I live in Amsteram, the Netherlands. Been riding & working on smallframes for over 12 years already.

Currently driving a 1970 Vespa 50 R. Original paint. Early model, came with 9 inch closed rims like the 50 N before.

Recently rebuild the engine, 75 DR, reed-valve, 16-16 carb & electronic ignition, SIP Road Banana.

Just swapped the 9 inch wheels for 10 inch. Drove these on previous scoots, so much better handeling and comfort.

Some pictures:

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When i bought it.


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Changed seat and removed mirrors. Also mounted original Siem lights front and back.

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Current state.


Still looking for a different seat. Want a original duo seat from the 50 N series. Also working on a nice solution for the license plate, don't really like the black plastic holder. For the rest a nice little runner
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Nice smallie, JJP!

Welcome! there is a great wealth of knowledge here on the NSM of Modern Vespa!
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sdjohn wrote:
Thanks pacrat! I think I'll get one too.
If I am remembering correctly, I had to bend those two clamp bolts that hook to the horn.

Show us a pic when it arrives! I am now contemplating an engine build. 75cc is not quick enough in traffic around here and hill climbing is non existant! I should have been doing this when it was cold outside!

Cheers,

~PacRat
What are your current setup? How much bigger cylinder do you think you'll need for increased hill climbing ability?

Thinking about upgrading my stock Vespa 50 with a bigger cylinder, exhaust and carburetor.
Hi ljus123,

I'm not sure what you are asking? We were talking about the front rack. My current engine is most likely a 75cc upgrade w/ the original 16.16 carb. I can reach 35mph but that is about it unless a long straight away or down hill.

I"m planning an upgrade, but all my research leads to splitting the case to add a crank and gearing to accommodate a 135cc cylinder. It's hard to tear apart a motor that runs so well, but the top speed limits where I can go.

Cheers,

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Currently driving a 1970 Vespa 50 R. Original paint.
Cool bike.. I like this color.. Welcome!
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+1 on the color, looks like Lambretta ochre, awesome
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Thanks all!

The color is Giallo Positano. Named after a town on the Amalfi Coast, Italy. Funny I own this Vespa, since I used to live there
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Here are the pics Al sent me of my cylinder. Tuned for torque and mid-range power.
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I saw those on Facebook.. was wondering who's it was.

Al / HRS is awesome.
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Re: Hot Rod Al sneak preview
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Here are the pics Al sent me of my cylinder. Tuned for torque and mid-range power.
Is that a stock 125 two port? Man, HRA went to town on that barrel, love the hand crafted boost ports!
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Here are the pics Al sent me of my cylinder. Tuned for torque and mid-range power.
Is that a stock 125 two port? Man, HRA went to town on that barrel, love the hand crafted boost ports!
Bone stock. I can't wait to get the box at my door.
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So I was fortunate enough to pick up a smallframe finally. Had my fun with the modern scoot and the p series bikes, but needed something else. Was able to acquire Quasi-moto's v90 that was mentioned here. Gonna wrap up my current project and next up...the smallframe. I expect it to be a learning experience, just like getting my first basket case P together, but very rewarding when done. The smallies here provide lots of inspiration.
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^I'll be on the lookout for you, lemme know if I can help out...I wonder if Quasimoto sold his orange Primavera.

Ok...Polini Evo 2 cylinder kit - 58mm. Hmm...
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I have to put my smallframe on this page for prosperity. 1974 90. Quick question. Were black doors originally part of some orange scooters? I am assuming they have been replaced or painted, although I have seen two others like it on this forum?
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I have to put my smallframe on this page for prosperity. 1974 90. Quick question. Were black doors originally part of some orange scooters? I am assuming they have been replaced or painted, although I have seen two others like it on this forum?
The black doors are modern repops, and sadly Quasimoto sold his smallframe before I could raise the dough to snag it
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The black is likely e-coating. A primer like substance used on replacement body panels.
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Here is the 50r! It does have a proper license plate holder now. Still waiting on title from V oodoo to get it registered. Used this setup when we rallied in Idaho. Long arm for clutch ordered. Also new headset and a Bell! Anyone have a bell on their old scooter? SIP said that they were made for these scoots.
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First Cable Replacement
I broke my clutch cable a couple of weeks ago and finally decided to get my hands dirty. I only did the inner and after reading up on the procedure, it was fairly easy!

Although, I did start off a little slow and thought I could get to the outer cable through here to pull it back towards the lever! I had a good laugh and another beer and put it back together!
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Just finished read all through the pages in this thread, lots of wonderful photos of smallframe from all around the world..really love it!

I had two smallies, the original and the little runner. But i had to sold the original one to the collector. And here is teh last one, my silver arrow smallframe, i restored it a couple years ago, and decide to put some fancy stuff like polini 130 evo cylinder kit, reed valve, bigger polini carb, polini clutch, drop bars, etc.
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That's soooo clean, nice work. I can't even get one ride in without more goo accumulating than you show in your pictures . Carb spitback with an open airbox makes messes Razz emoticon .
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Wow! Beautiful!

I love the silver! It looks like it came out of a museum. I guess I'll need to wash and detail mine now!
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Man, that is squeaky clean! Yoo hoo Vader, check this out...
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Man, that is squeaky clean! Yoo hoo Vader, check this out...
What?
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That's soooo clean, nice work. I can't even get one ride in without more goo accumulating than you show in your pictures . Carb spitback with an open airbox makes messes Razz emoticon .
Thanks sdjohn, since i rebuilt this scooter, the vespa never exposed to the rain.. And i always clean it after i ride it, bcos i park this scooter inside the house.
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^^^ best looking silver scoot I've seen yet! Clap emoticon

Let's see your other bike(s) too please?
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Thanks vader, btw i adore your racy smallframe... Wonder what kind of seat are u using, because mine is to soft.. Crying or Very sad emoticon
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^^^ best looking silver scoot I've seen yet! Clap emoticon

Let's see your other bike(s) too please?
For now, this smallframe is the only vespa left. Before i had a fully restored px'95, vbb '64 and special 90 '76.

Here is the vbb'64
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CLEAN MACHINE Silverbug.
Thanks vader, btw i adore your racy smallframe... Wonder what kind of seat are u using, because mine is to soft.. Crying or Very sad emoticon
Thanks Silverbug... Too soft? Most people like a nice soft seat. including me.. but the seat I have on there is from Streamline Seats in Germany (but you can find them on Facebook "Streamline Seats" it's pretty hard, so you may like it.

I have since put another seat on to use as a daily rider.. it's a Corsa MKII seat from Scooter Center.. (I think.. or SIP) still looks good but is much softer.. and it was 1/2 the price.

http://www.sip-scootershop.com/en/products/sport+seat+cora+mkii+for+vespa+_75905400

... and the way the Streamline mounting system goes, I only have to change the front mounting bracket to swap the seats... the rear mounting pieces of the Streamline seat mounting hardware can stay on the bike.. easy.
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CLEAN MACHINE Silverbug.
Thanks vader, btw i adore your racy smallframe... Wonder what kind of seat are u using, because mine is to soft.. Crying or Very sad emoticon
Thanks Silverbug... Too soft? Most people like a nice soft seat. including me.. but the seat I have on there is from Streamline Seats in Germany (but you can find them on Facebook "Streamline Seats" it's pretty hard, so you may like it.

I have since put another seat on to use as a daily rider.. it's a Corsa MKII seat from Scooter Center.. (I think.. or SIP) still looks good but is much softer.. and it was 1/2 the price.

http://www.sip-scootershop.com/en/products/sport+seat+cora+mkii+for+vespa+_75905400

... and the way the Streamline mounting system goes, I only have to change the front mounting bracket to swap the seats... the rear mounting pieces of the Streamline seat mounting hardware can stay on the bike.. easy.
I do like soft seat, but these one just get flat when i sat on it, and unstable when entering the corner. I need a firm seat just like a sportbike..

I have searched the sip website 2 times and didnt find your seat, and now i know..its Streamline Seats and not from Sip.. Lol. Would you post the mounting bracket please?
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The mounting bracket on the SIP seat is just part of the seat.. at the front.. and the mounting hardware for the Streamline there is no link to.. it all comes with the seat.. check them out on FB and if you look through the pics you'll probably see it there.
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I am probably the only one that loves the hard sport seat from SIP. I have done long rides on it and I like that I can feel the bike under me.

V oodoo! I took the wheels and the new headset and a few other bits and bobs to the sand blaster/powder coater for the 50r! I should get them back in a couple weeks and then I can start to transform the little bike. The paint I LOVE we polished it and its almost a Periwinkle color. I dream of finding a welder to make the headset that was on it with drop bars for me, or it will become a awesome desk lamp. It will definitely live on somehow. Here are some pictures outdoors after we used some elbow grease and polish on the paint.
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OH! My uncle had a car and airplane show and gathering at his property.
I took the one scoot that I knew could get me there on the roads that I needed to use to get there. I did not wash my scoot, I rode almost a hour and was hit with some HUGE insects on my way. I parked my scoot amongst some beautifully restored and polished cars. This bike has several boo-boos from when the previous owner got entangled in some railroad tracks and went down. My stickers cover some of them and there are some dents. Anyways where I was going with this is I won! I got a overwhelming vote for "best wheels" I was shocked to say the least. I am pretty certain that all the women voted and the guys forgot to vote. Clown emoticon There was a "best wings" category and that went to a little military replica air plane.
All the ladies there were just in love with that bike. I even had several older guys asking if I am sure I am not selling any of my Vespas. As I rode off I made a *beep*beep* with my sad little horn and I guess that even got people talking more. That was a HOT ride home for sure! It was almost 100 degrees that day.
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Just WOW, Nuttmeg. I too like that blue. It feels great to see you taking it where I hoped it could go! I think it's loving its new home.There's a guy in Oregon doing drops, but dunno much about it(on ScootNet)

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OH WOW! Those before pictures are a big difference from where it is now! We had such a hard time getting those wheels and tires separated. Dan took a saw to the tires. We have a used tire border in the backyard along our porch and they fit nicely in the mix out there. I picked a silver for the wheels, headset, levers, and new engine door too. Oh the powder coater was so excited to see me back. He said that he enjoys doing the little projects and was happy to see that I brought more small frame tools to be powder coated HOT Pink! There is now a hot pink small frame tool for every smallie in the garage. Dan calls them a "Megan Wrench" Laughing emoticon
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