AV we'll ou could use them for espresso but you'd be wired for days. Just think of all they "honey do's" you could get done.

I don't know about the rally but you never know when i might take you up on the offer to look at your cupboards. If you hear a knock on the door, run.

Thanks for the offer. The 3rd cup is going to a good home. Someone on here didn't get one, so after the holidays i'll send it to them.