Sun Jun 10, 2007 6:57 pm

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Sun Jun 10, 2007 6:57 pm linkquote
The damage (and this is just one section) plus the solution.








The solution

Sun Jun 10, 2007 7:00 pm

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Sun Jun 10, 2007 7:00 pm linkquote
Some more work:


Hammer and dolly


Sometimes just a bit of mallet work does the trick


...but H&D for a bit finer work


Straightening out the edge

Sun Jun 10, 2007 7:02 pm

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Sun Jun 10, 2007 7:02 pm linkquote
Reasonably straight. For a cannonball bike, anwyay.







Sun Jun 10, 2007 7:04 pm

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Sun Jun 10, 2007 7:04 pm linkquote
And, at last, some primer.







Sun Jun 10, 2007 7:18 pm

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Sun Jun 10, 2007 7:18 pm linkquote
Starting to take form, I see.
Are you planning anything super out of the ordinary for this bike, outside of scbr of course?
Sun Jun 10, 2007 7:22 pm

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Sun Jun 10, 2007 7:22 pm linkquote
crackhead wrote:
Are you planning anything super out of the ordinary for this bike, outside of scbr of course?
That's top secret, I'm afraid. I've got several projects going on right now related to this bike that I just can't reveal here. It's killing me, too -- really cool stuff (well, the parts that didn't end up in failure) that I'm dying to share.

Alas, it would be heartbreaking if I spent all this time and effort (not to mention tremendous amounts of research) only to have someone draft off of my efforts.
Sun Jun 10, 2007 7:29 pm

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Sun Jun 10, 2007 7:29 pm linkquote
Progress!

R

8)
Sun Jun 10, 2007 8:19 pm

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Sun Jun 10, 2007 8:19 pm linkquote
Nice work with the hammer and dolly, Jess. I did a little (my first time) on the smallframe, it was fun, but when I first started it was with fear and trembling.

The lines look straight, and no one will ever know the difference once it's painted!
Sun Jun 10, 2007 8:34 pm

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Sun Jun 10, 2007 8:34 pm linkquote
I'm glad they are teaching you a trade
during your jail time
Sun Jun 10, 2007 10:08 pm

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Sun Jun 10, 2007 10:08 pm linkquote
One more, that shows the lower part:



Mon Jun 11, 2007 12:54 am

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Mon Jun 11, 2007 12:54 am linkquote
lookin' good man. lookin' good.

methinks you need some horsepower increasing graphix, next.

best,
-greasy
Mon Jun 11, 2007 1:10 am

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Mon Jun 11, 2007 1:10 am linkquote
That is some nice repair work Jess! I would nevr attempt that kinda stuff with my bike. I guess that is one thing nice about this bike. It allows you some tinkering.

Good job all the way around, Beale.
Mon Jun 11, 2007 3:21 am

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Mon Jun 11, 2007 3:21 am linkquote
Very cool, nice work. Looking forward to see the next steps as you can show them.
Mon Jun 11, 2007 5:32 am

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Mon Jun 11, 2007 5:32 am linkquote
Beale wrote:
I would nevr attempt that kinda stuff with my bike. I guess that is one thing nice about this bike. It allows you some tinkering.
Exactly. I can do stuff with this bike that I would be afraid to on my red GTS. If I screw it up, who cares? It's a cannonball bike. I'll either fix it or let it remain ugly.
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Mon Jun 11, 2007 5:57 am linkquote
jess wrote:
crackhead wrote:
Are you planning anything super out of the ordinary for this bike, outside of scbr of course?
That's top secret, I'm afraid. I've got several projects going on right now related to this bike that I just can't reveal here. It's killing me, too -- really cool stuff (well, the parts that didn't end up in failure) that I'm dying to share.

Alas, it would be heartbreaking if I spent all this time and effort (not to mention tremendous amounts of research) only to have someone draft off of my efforts.
Understood. And you're killing us with suspense too. I expect you'll generate as much interest with this bike's proress as we saw with "Scorched" last year.
Mon Jun 11, 2007 7:54 am

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Mon Jun 11, 2007 7:54 am linkquote
Nice work Jess!! It's nice to see you tinkering again and not babysitting MV.



Mel
Mon Jun 11, 2007 8:04 am

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Mon Jun 11, 2007 8:04 am linkquote
Very cool!
Mon Jun 11, 2007 4:22 pm

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Mon Jun 11, 2007 4:22 pm linkquote
It's coming along nice from where it started.

Tim



Mon Jun 11, 2007 4:44 pm

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Mon Jun 11, 2007 4:44 pm linkquote
Nice work!

I too am one of those people that would be scared to do that on my bike, unless I find a bomber to practice on. Would probably have to Rhino Line the whole thing to hide my mistakes!

Keep posting new pics!
Mon Jun 11, 2007 5:12 pm

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Mon Jun 11, 2007 5:12 pm linkquote
Jess,

Nice job - got it all straight and looking great!

I'm still not 100% on body work - but the more I get into learning about modifying Drusilla, the more comfortable I get with engine stuff.

Truly looking forward to seeing the finished product
Mon Jun 11, 2007 10:55 pm

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Mon Jun 11, 2007 10:55 pm linkquote
Nice, Jess--

I grew up with my Mom & Dad restoring antique cars, someone usually sandblasting rusty metal in the backyard, or sanding a fender in the living room.... This looks like normal behavior!

Hurry up-- the suspense! 8)

--Deborah
Tue Jun 12, 2007 9:02 am

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Tue Jun 12, 2007 9:02 am linkquote
Hey Jess~~

Very Niiiice!

Perhaps I can further divert your attention from MV. I got a 180SS in my garage that needs some work. What is your shop rate?

Do you weld?

\osc
Tue Jun 12, 2007 9:10 am

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Tue Jun 12, 2007 9:10 am linkquote
not bad, brother! Very cool! I keep forgetting you've got experience restoring such things, e.g., with your vintage mustang background.
Tue Jun 12, 2007 11:40 am

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Tue Jun 12, 2007 11:40 am linkquote
Lookin great.
Wed Jun 13, 2007 1:55 pm

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Wed Jun 13, 2007 1:55 pm linkquote
Oscillator wrote:
Perhaps I can further divert your attention from MV. I got a 180SS in my garage that needs some work. What is your shop rate?
One million dollars. An hour.
Oscillator wrote:
Do you weld?
Not yet.
Wed Jun 13, 2007 2:33 pm

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Wed Jun 13, 2007 2:33 pm linkquote
jess wrote:
Oscillator wrote:
Do you weld?
Not yet.
Jess,
Get yourself a little wire feed welder. Small, easy to use, 110v, welds like butter. I've only used one once, but compared to the old stick welder I learned on, Night and Day difference.

Sounds like you've got most everything else you need, including the skillz.

Can't wait to see the finished product.
Wed Jun 13, 2007 2:52 pm

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Wed Jun 13, 2007 2:52 pm linkquote
Mesmer wrote:
Get yourself a little wire feed welder. Small, easy to use, 110v, welds like butter. I've only used one once, but compared to the old stick welder I learned on, Night and Day difference.
I've been looking at a few different welders. It's inevitable that it'll happen, but I don't need it just yet as I'm pretty focused (obsessed, really) on another (related) project that's driving me bonkers.
Mesmer wrote:
Sounds like you've got most everything else you need, including the skillz.
Nah, it's not the skillz. I've never done hammer and dolly work before. This was my first attempt at that. It's just the willingness to dive in and learn a bit about something new and maybe make mistakes along the way. I really like knowing a little bit about as many things as possible.
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Wed Jun 13, 2007 2:55 pm linkquote
jess wrote:
It's just the willingness to dive in and learn a bit about something new and maybe make mistakes along the way. I really like knowing a little bit about as many things as possible.
That's what I like about you buddy! Rock on
Wed Jun 13, 2007 3:06 pm

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Wed Jun 13, 2007 3:06 pm linkquote
You do some good work Jess.
Wed Jun 13, 2007 4:35 pm

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Wed Jun 13, 2007 4:35 pm linkquote
jess wrote:
One million dollars.
Wed Jun 13, 2007 8:01 pm

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Wed Jun 13, 2007 8:01 pm linkquote
Nice work !

I'd be tempted to go a bit crazy with that yellow grinder thingy as I'd like the look of exposed MONOCOQUE STEEL with a clear lacquer,


Clearly have no idea what I'm talking about but will be keeping an eye on this thread ...
Thu Jun 14, 2007 4:37 pm

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Thu Jun 14, 2007 4:37 pm linkquote
jess wrote:
crackhead wrote:
Are you planning anything super out of the ordinary for this bike, outside of scbr of course?
That's top secret, I'm afraid.
I am afraid the cat's out of the bag on that J-man: An array of strategically placed rare earth magnets that interact w/ Earth's magnetic field and gives +0.003 mph top end, right?

Ah clever boy, I know its meant to look make the bike look like it has a simple shiny object fetish, but....Over the course of 3,000 miles, you'll win by a nose. A photo finish!

But no worries, your secret is safe with us.

\osc
Thu Jun 14, 2007 5:34 pm

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Thu Jun 14, 2007 5:34 pm linkquote
Oscillator wrote:
jess wrote:
crackhead wrote:
Are you planning anything super out of the ordinary for this bike, outside of scbr of course?
That's top secret, I'm afraid.
I am afraid the cat's out of the bag on that J-man: An array of strategically placed rare earth magnets that interact w/ Earth's magnetic field and gives +0.003 mph top end, right?

Ah clever boy, I know its meant to look make the bike look like it has a simple shiny object fetish, but....Over the course of 3,000 miles, you'll win by a nose. A photo finish!

But no worries, your secret is safe with us.

\osc
I thought maybe he was planning on tapping into some geothermal for a constant energy source too. I imagined a conductor hanging off the rear of the scoot similar to the old cable cars. I can just see the sparks flying!
Fri Jun 15, 2007 10:04 pm

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Fri Jun 15, 2007 10:04 pm linkquote
Great work man!! I know the feeling of approaching bodywork with only a stack of books, a few websites on the laptop dragged out to the carport and a crapload of advice from club guys. I faced the same problem when I rear ended a Bajaj during a club run and had a set of bashed up cowls and a tweaked fender.

But, the satisfaction of taking on a project you are certian you are doomed to screw up and have it come out looking damned good (Like yours!), is a HUGE confidence booster. Can't wait to see the progress. Just because it's a basharound bike doesn't mean it can't look damned sexy.
Tue Jun 19, 2007 8:58 am

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Tue Jun 19, 2007 8:58 am linkquote
Okay so this has nothing to do with the bodywork on your GTS, but where the HELL did those cowl protectors with the footpegs on the blue LX come from??? I've been looking for some like that everywhere...instead, I had to guy the Cuppini protectors and take the black footrests off my scooter to put ET footpegs on.
Tue Jun 19, 2007 1:01 pm

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Tue Jun 19, 2007 1:01 pm linkquote
I Got Me Parka wrote:
Okay so this has nothing to do with the bodywork on your GTS, but where the HELL did those cowl protectors with the footpegs on the blue LX come from??? I've been looking for some like that everywhere...instead, I had to guy the Cuppini protectors and take the black footrests off my scooter to put ET footpegs on.
Those are the stainless steel ET crash bars (which fit the LX) from Motorsport Scooters. They're only available from there, but (last I heard) they were having trouble getting any more made.
Tue Jun 19, 2007 2:18 pm

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Tue Jun 19, 2007 2:18 pm linkquote
After seeing the bike in person last saturday and seeing this post, I got to say that I'm impressed.
Keep it up and I look forward to seeing the "secret" stuff.
Tue Jun 19, 2007 3:24 pm

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Tue Jun 19, 2007 3:24 pm linkquote
I missed this thread first time around. Great progress! What's my scooter doing in your back yard? Even my seat cover!

You even have your work bench in the yard? Don't you guys really get any rain?

I've used doly blocks and hammers on cars before, but not on scooters. The plastic mallet is really enough? On my old Ford Model A, the steel was so thick, a 3# mallet hardly moved it.

Have fun!
Tue Jun 19, 2007 4:12 pm

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Tue Jun 19, 2007 4:12 pm linkquote
Smorris wrote:
What's my scooter doing in your back yard? Even my seat cover!
I'm your evil twin, remember?
Smorris wrote:
You even have your work bench in the yard? Don't you guys really get any rain?
That's just an old table we keep on the back porch. It piles up with stuff that occasionally I clear off and take to the dump. I happen to have a vice attached to it, though -- some project I can't remember now.

We don't get rain this time of year, though. At all. Not until, say, November or therabouts. It'll be bone dry until then. We get a lot of morning dew, though, so stuff still gets wet and rusts sometimes.
Smorris wrote:
I've used doly blocks and hammers on cars before, but not on scooters. The plastic mallet is really enough? On my old Ford Model A, the steel was so thick, a 3# mallet hardly moved it.
It got that kink out, at least to the point where I could finess it with the block. I think that flat bender tool I'm straightening the edge with probably did more than any of the other tools, though.
Tue Jun 26, 2007 2:18 am

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Tue Jun 26, 2007 2:18 am linkquote
Hi Jess

Very very nice work indeed. For the tools and primer and such, what sources did you use? Also, does any old auto primer work?

Thanks, and nice job!
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