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Hey people what do you use to fix a tire if you're far away from home or any shop and you get a flat,some people tell me that the fix-a-flat is not good to the rim/wheel,etc;and others tell me that plugs are not to good either,i know that the best thing is to replace the tire but i'm looking for a carry on to get back home safe solution.

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Re: What to use when...
CUCO wrote:
i'm looking for a carry on to get back home safe solution.

Thanks!
CUCO

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Cellphone?

Seriously, with only two wheels, do you want to risk riding on an iffy tire? Most fix-a-flat stuff requires you to fill the tire with the goop, fill it with air and then immediately put the tire to use to spread the goop around the tire evenly. If your puncture is anywhere but the very center of the tread, you'll not get the goop to cover the hole, due to centrifugal forces.
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I agree. Use a cell phone. Plugs have never worked for me and the slime stuff is useless.
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I've used plugs on motorcycle tires with success, and rode on them for 5,000 miles or until the tire tread wore out. Each repair is unique. One needs to evaluate the damage to the tire, the type of riding, and the quality of the repair, to assess its drivability.

Caveats aside, I carry a CO2 tire inflator, CO2 cartridges, a few plugs, glue, and a plug tool.
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In California you'd be hard pressed to find a tire company or a dealer who will plug a motorcycle tire. It's also not a good practice.

When you're on 4 wheels, if one fails it's usually not life threatening. Since the prospect of having a blowout on 2 wheels isn't attractive to me, I'd rather be safe and just replace the tire.

It's true that chances are that the repair would work, but it's just that... a chance.
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Hmm...so it seem that there is no really good way to fix a flat temporarily if you stuck...let say in the desert?

Now I realize that a 40-80 mph scooter is different than a bicycle, but I heard of people using wood, leaf, tied inner tube or what ever it take to get home/shop.

I don't really think you can count on a cell phone to always get you out of these situations. I would rather ride at 5-10 mph for 30 miles...than push my bike half that far.

Therefore I would suggest taking anything that could help with you (taking in space constrains into consideration).

Although I tend to be a pack rat with tools...hehe

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Oh, if you were stuck in a remote location, you could carry one of those cans of flat fixer and roll into town at a reduced speed. I agree that would be preferable to pushing your scooter for miles.

I was responding to using a repaired tire as a more permanent solution.
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Oh, if you were stuck in a remote location, you could carry one of those cans of flat fixer and roll into town at a reduced speed. I agree that would be preferable to pushing your scooter for miles.

I was responding to using a repaired tire as a more permanent solution.
I absolutely agree with ya as far as keeping a temp fix on long term. That's a no no. Perhaps, I read his question wrong... I thought he was looking for a quick fix for semi-remote locations.

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Okay, I carry those CO2 tire inflater too. $10 bucks!!!! I don't know how I went without it. Tire pressure gauge is good too.
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Hey people!
thanks for all of your replys,anyways what i'm looking for is a temporary way of fixing the tire just to get back safe,most of the times i hear people say that because of the temperature factor those fix-a-flat cans can be dangerous on moto tyres,i always carry with small airpump but haven't found anything(and i have seen many plug kits) to fix the tire and keep on rolling that convince me enough,any other sugestions are very welcome.

Cheers!
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i found this, that may indeed be of some help.

i think i might invest in one of these, you never know..


Also here is some other web info-
http://motorcyclecruiser.com/tech/flatz/
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i found this, that may indeed be of some help.

i think i might invest in one of these, you never know..


Also here is some other web info-
http://motorcyclecruiser.com/tech/flatz/
Thank for that find Jepone, the only thing I envy sometime about some of the other older scoot is there ability to fix there flats. Granted tubeless probably get a lot let flats, but something like this at least give you a chance.

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i found this, that may indeed be of some help.

i think i might invest in one of these, you never know..


That's what i'm talking about,thanks a lot jepone!

Cheers!
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I have a spare on Vespa P-200, which has come in handy. When I was a motorcycle rider I would carry different size screws (diameter not length) and spare rubber pieces: 1st) put a small piece of rubber through the screw as if it were a washer, 2nd) apply some rubber cement / glue (like the kind used for regular plugs), 3rd) screw it in the hole. It is still not a permenant fix and I always replaced the tire as soon as possible, but (in my experience) it can take a bit more abuse than reguilar plugs. Then again I was always lucky in the sense that I always got punctures at the bottom of the tread, so the screws never hit pavement.
I always replaced the tire as soon as possible because I would rather spend the money and have a brand new tire than to have one fail doing 50+mph.
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Thanks JNV!
I'll keep that one in mind too.

Cheers!
CUCO
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