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So the other day I was surfing the internet and found this! It is a back up camera that uses WIFI to connect to your iphone or Android phone. You wire WIFI transmitter to a switched wire, plug the camera in ( you can use any camera that you want) and pair the transmitter to your phone. Download the app and as they say in the UK Bobs your uncle (not mine, my uncle is Claude).

Mount that camera to your plate. They also have miniature cameras as well. Forget bar end mirrors I want bar end cameras.

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http://www.4ucam.com/iphone-android-ipad-WIFI-Backup-Camera.html?gclid=CNSI2t2Q1r0CFYyhOgodU2wAkA
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Re: Backup Camera using your iphone or Android
I'd be interested in what sort of glare you get from these in daylight. Gut feeling says one needs a lo tech solution to rear vision. I worry about techno failure/battery failure/screen issues etc etc.
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Will the law allow for camera only, or would you still need mirrors?
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Well let's find out.

Here in South Carolina

SECTION 56-5-3650. Footrests; rear view mirror.
(A) Any motorcycle carrying a passenger, other than in a sidecar or enclosed cab, must be equipped with footrests for its passenger.
(B) A person shall not operate any motorcycle unless it is equipped with a rear view mirror which will afford the operator ample vision to the rear at all times.

However, we know how fast laws keep up with technology. So this could be pushed in my opinion if one is using a camera and wanted to fight it. It would make for an interesting case.

Would anyone like to donate to my legal fees if I get popped.

In addition, the NHTSA has mandated that all motor vehicles have a back up camera by 2015. However, it looks like motorcycles would be exempt. Again it would be interesting case to push.

I like pushing buttons.

http://www.nhtsa.gov/About+NHTSA/Press+Releases/2014/NHTSA+Announces+Final+Rule+Requiring+Rear+Visibility+Technology

https://www.federalregister.gov/articles/2014/04/07/2014-07469/federal-motor-vehicle-safety-standards-rear-visibility
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hmm, since I have a phone mount in the middle of my handlebars, I might have to get that.
little problematic when then the sun is in the wrong place(glare), but still...
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I am a gizmo freak. And heck if I dont like it on the bike, I will slap it on the car.
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Hadantor wrote:
I am a gizmo freak. And heck if I dont like it on the bike, I will slap it on the car.
I've got a similar system in the car, it works well but it is plumbed in, not relying on WiFi or Bluetooth but on hardwiring, And sometimes I still get glare and that's with a roof. I use my phone as my SatNav and glare can be a problem but you just wait until you can see the screen again. Not sure how that would work if you are bombing along and cant see the cage trying to overtake.
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Ill probably install one of these, but I am also going to put on some bar end mirrors. I will probably get the CRG Arrow bar end mirrors.
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Don't blink you'll miss it
I am still trialing positions and fittings for a drift movie camera to get the best movies of my rides. I want to keep them for when I'm trapped in a nursing home I can relive each ride over and over again.
I find glare and quick changes in light a strain on my eyes and trying to read screens in those conditions worse. I have to stop to check my Sat Nav. I have short vision and wear transitional specs but it is the factions of time it takes to focus that unsettles me.
I very much doubt at this point in time Australia would agree to rear cameras as opposed to rear vision mirrors. Scooter riders have been stopped in the new laws imposed to address outlaw motorcycles gangs here in Qld. Bike sales are down and everyone is mindful of the potential of being stopped for no offence and interrogated. What The? emoticon
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look around at some of the car manufactures as they are exploring rear cameras instead of side mirrors. the main beni is the driver can have the image infront of them and not have to look to the left or right to see the outer mirrors. just a quick eye movement.
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OAD, that was exactly what I was thinking.
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For what it's worth, I understand the Tesla folks are looking at cameras in lieu of mirrors for a different reason. They want to eliminate the drag caused by the mirrors which reduces the range of the car. Perhaps they will have more influence than you (or I) over future wording of legal requirements.
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For what it's worth, I understand the Tesla folks are looking at cameras in lieu of mirrors for a different reason. They want to eliminate the drag caused by the mirrors which reduces the range of the car. Perhaps they will have more influence than you (or I) over future wording of legal requirements.
The Aptera had no mirrors and had only cameras with interior monitors.

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