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Molto Verboso
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I test rode a Stella Automatic last Saturday. It was a 4 stroke and the engine is on the left side. I hit exactly 55mph indicated on the speedometer but it took forever to get there.

I guess that there is a market for everyone, I can see this being a scooter for a female going to college or for someone that prefer an auto over the shifting hassle..

The engine is very sluggish, it has a initial little push of torque only when you already start rolling then it falls flat on its face. I owned a 2t Stella and also a 4 t stella and a few PX150 and P200 and this stella auto probably ranks the lowest as far is acceleration(not necessarily the slowest in top speed).

A buddy 125cc will blow the cowls of this auto Stella AT ALL THE TIMES. I am not saying that is a bad scooter but it lacks "get up and go".

Last but not least, there is no spare tire and the center stand is a $itch to set it, it has a tiny thin metal sticking on the side which you suppose to put your feet and add the weight of your body so that the scooter engages the center stands but it is hard.

The wiring on the right cowl is simply a joke , it looks like they didn't care to buy a proper wiring loom or to reroute the wires and tuck them in the body/chasi, it looks ugly and ..well..tacky. Go and test them and tell us what you think
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LML just does not prep and detail enough. I would NOT want a new scooter rider to buy one. It has a good chance of leaving a bad taste in their mouth.
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Molto Verboso
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^^^ I see what you are coming rom. I think that Vespa has a much better finish. My 2012 GTS 300 Super quality was top notch, nice quality materials etc but it was also a $7200 scooter.

The right cowl looks like if you give an average bystander $50 and tell them: go to radio shack or the dollar store and try to make this right cowl electrical wiring installation neat. It plains and simple looks tacky. I am asking people to go and take a look.
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Re: test rode the stella 125 Automatic
scooterist wrote:
I test rode a Stella Automatic last Saturday. It was a 4 stroke and the engine is on the left side. I hit exactly 55mph indicated on the speedometer but it took forever to get there.

I guess that there is a market for everyone, I can see this being a scooter for a female going to college or for someone that prefer an auto over the shifting hassle..

The engine is very sluggish, it has a initial little push of torque only when you already start rolling then it falls flat on its face. I owned a 2t Stella and also a 4 t stella and a few PX150 and P200 and this stella auto probably ranks the lowest as far is acceleration(not necessarily the slowest in top speed).

A buddy 125cc will blow the cowls of this auto Stella AT ALL THE TIMES. I am not saying that is a bad scooter but it lacks "get up and go".

Last but not least, there is no spare tire and the center stand is a $itch to set it, it has a tiny thin metal sticking on the side which you suppose to put your feet and add the weight of your body so that the scooter engages the center stands but it is hard.

The wiring on the right cowl is simply a joke , it looks like they didn't care to buy a proper wiring loom or to reroute the wires and tuck them in the body/chasi, it looks ugly and ..well..tacky. Go and test them and tell us what you think
There must have been something wrong with the Stella you rode. I have tested the LML Star 125 Auto against LX 150s and it accelerates faster. I agree the finish may not be as good ad the Vespa but then it is considerably cheaper in my market. I was really impressed with how the 125 auto performs, it's a good machine.
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Yes, isn't the automatic supposed to be quite nippy off the line? Certainly beats my PX 125 (two stroke) and a LX 125.
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Re: test rode the stella 125 Automatic
scooterist wrote:
I test rode a Stella Automatic last Saturday. It was a 4 stroke and the engine is on the left side. I hit exactly 55mph indicated on the speedometer but it took forever to get there.

I guess that there is a market for everyone, I can see this being a scooter for a female going to college or for someone that prefer an auto over the shifting hassle..

The engine is very sluggish, it has a initial little push of torque only when you already start rolling then it falls flat on its face. I owned a 2t Stella and also a 4 t stella and a few PX150 and P200 and this stella auto probably ranks the lowest as far is acceleration(not necessarily the slowest in top speed).

A buddy 125cc will blow the cowls of this auto Stella AT ALL THE TIMES. I am not saying that is a bad scooter but it lacks "get up and go".

Last but not least, there is no spare tire and the center stand is a $itch to set it, it has a tiny thin metal sticking on the side which you suppose to put your feet and add the weight of your body so that the scooter engages the center stands but it is hard.

The wiring on the right cowl is simply a joke , it looks like they didn't care to buy a proper wiring loom or to reroute the wires and tuck them in the body/chasi, it looks ugly and ..well..tacky. Go and test them and tell us what you think
I've owned, raced and worked on more than two dozen motorcycles in the last 50 years. I own a Stella automatic and it does exactly what it's supposed to do.

You may have ridden a bike that was brand new or not in tune. My bike accelerates quickly, in fact more quickly than my friend's new 4T. Other tests I've read also confirm that the automatic is quicker than the standard. The center stand works easily if you know how to use it. I'm not sure about the aesthetics of wiring, but IMHO, I like to be able to check and get at the wiring easily. Oh by the way, the newly designed engine is centrally mounted.

I've attached a picture that cdwise previously posted of me and my Stella on my way to class at Miss Asskika's College for Girls.

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^^ The one that I tested was brand new demo with very low miles. Gas in AZ is piss water but other than that the buddy 125cc feels quicker. Everything is subjective though.

The 2 Strokes stellas from factory are sluggish specially with the catalytic converter. The Stella 4T(150cc) that I had(4 speed manual) topped at 51mph. This Stella 4t Auto(125cc)that I tested tops at 55mph
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^^ The one that I tested was brand new demo with very low miles. Gas in AZ is piss water but other than that the buddy 125cc feels quicker. Everything is subjective though.

The 2 Strokes stellas from factory are sluggish specially with the catalytic converter. The Stella 4T(150cc) that I had(4 speed manual) topped at 51mph. This Stella 4t Auto(125cc)that I tested tops at 55mph
That is what I thought. My first auto felt like they it had a flat spot in initial acceleration. However, after 100 miles it really smoothed out. That bike was sent to Stella Heaven by a delivery truck. My replacement bike was very quick and smooth right of the crate. The bike does indeed lack the fit and finish of the new Vespas. However, there is a substantial savings in cost and everything in life is a bit of trade off. The engine is a brand new design and is a vertical single that sits in the middle of the bike - balance, vibration and ease of access are improved. The ECU is probably the trick to the bikes quickness. I see that you have had a great collection of traditional Vespas and there is always some resistance to changing a tried and true formula. I have received some static from my "shifty" colleagues.

As far as the Stella being a bike for college girls - that absolutely cracked me up and I hope you took my response in the humor that was intended. According to my Harley friends my BMW 600 is also a girls' bike. I guess I'll just have to be one of the girls.
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Belvoir Wine Team RC (Buckfast Commando) ,Rusty Sheriff's Badge MCC, 07 ET4 ,07 Piaggio X8
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Hi, 4T engines tend to be a bit tight when new , my ET4 was slow when new but after a few 1000 miles it was a lot better
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Bloke I know turned up at the pub last night on a LML Star 125 Auto and let me take it for a spin..

Whilst it didn't set the heart racing like my T5 does, it was favourably comparable to my Vespa 125S. It was quicker off the mark and pulled better than my S (and that's with Dr Pulleys in the S), but topped out at 90kmh (55mph), which is about 10 kmh slower than the S.

I liked it
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ECU Recall
Genuine Scooters has announced a recall on the ECUs of all the Auto Stellas. Perhaps the OP rode a Stella that did not have the ECU replaced.
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