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Confirms what many of us think about those on the modern side....

My gts cupholder

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Put a SIP road pipe on my SS. Had to bend the center stand to clear the pipe. PITA. Fortunately, I have a few center stands around if I want to go back.

Anyway, I up jetted from the stock 120 to a 122 and it goes pretty well. I may try the 124 because I have one.
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I wish I knew the answer to that one. It really bugs me that it's such a loose fit. Maybe you're supposed to use one of these (but I seem to remember trying one once and the cable end wouldn't fit)

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Or one of these, a "solder nipple"?

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That's the one. I just can't seem to find anyone who has the insert AND the inner cable. I've found complete sets of cables, but I just need front brake and clutch... I'm carrying tons of extra cables all the time. This is the second time it's broken. Always right at the lever end.
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you should be able to get a cable without that two piece shit man
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Confirms what many of us think about those on the modern side....

My gts cupholder

yep exactly ..... build a fuckin scoot then come back ya limp one handed open face lid wearing .........
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you should be able to get a cable without that two piece shit man
I think I should as well, but I haven't found anyone stateside who has them... only the smaller ones.
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you should be able to get a cable without that two piece shit man
I think I should as well, but I haven't found anyone stateside who has them... only the smaller ones.
Cant recommend any seller really. I always end up with mecuer late 80s shite and I never buy from the states either.


Ginchy ......I need a set xx
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astro - seems it would be less hassle downstream if you just got a different lever ... one that a normal size cable end fits into snugly.
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astro - seems it would be less hassle downstream if you just got a different lever ... one that a normal size cable end fits into snugly.
true and I might if I continue to break cables, but I'm really wanting to keep as many original parts as I can on my '59.
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astro - seems it would be less hassle downstream if you just got a different lever ... one that a normal size cable end fits into snugly.
true and I might if I continue to break cables, but I'm really wanting to keep as many original parts as I can on my '59.
I hear ya and I'd want to do the same, but sometimes functionality trumps originality for a daily rider. Just keep the lever in a safe place for that future museum resto, lol.
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you should be able to get a cable without that two piece shit man
I think I should as well, but I haven't found anyone stateside who has them... only the smaller ones.
Looks like you've been using a shift cable, with the smaller 5 1/2mm barrel. You need the 8mm barrel the clutch(& front brake) cable should have and there's a place called 'ScooterMercato' that usually stocks this rare item http://www.scootermercato.com/Scooter-Parts/Inner-Cables/CC1
awesome focus, eh?
awesome focus, eh?
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Looks like you've been using a shift cable, with the smaller 5 1/2mm barrel. You need the 8mm barrel the clutch(& front brake) cable should have and there's a place called 'ScooterMercato' that usually stocks this rare item http://www.scootermercato.com/Scooter-Parts/Inner-Cables/CC1
No, not anywhere as small as a shit cable. I'll go take a pic. it's in the parking lot.

I got all my cables from mercato. Might just be the wrong ones.
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Well, upon taking this photo and really looking at it, there appears to be a groove in the lever. Is it made that or has the groove worn in over time?
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Well, upon taking this photo and really looking at it, there appears to be a groove in the lever. Is it made that or has the groove worn in over time?
Voodoo is right. That's a shift/throttle cable in there. Should be the larger one for the levers.

Looks like it's worn away too.
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I'd go for the right cable and grease the hell out of it.
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there appears to be a groove in the lever. Is it made that or has the groove worn in over time?
Looks like it's worn away too.
That's not a wear groove.. the clutch levers holes are shaped that way.. look at a new lever you'll see it's a circle that's kind of been egged out.
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Nope. Not a shift cable. I have several of those.
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Told you I was packin'. Here is a clutch cable(top) and a shifter cable.

Don't make me pull out a throttle cable.
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Wow, great focus Astro!

Sorry, from this I was thinking shifter cable

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But this looks right to me

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Here's a shift cable in there
Here's a shift cable in there
and a verified clutch cable
and a verified clutch cable
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OK good. Sorry to have wasted everyone's time. Hahaha At least I know what I've got. Maybe I'll grease it up a bit in the hole so it can pivot more smoothly.

Sorry about the "red dot diagram". I didn't have the scooter nearby when I made that, or I would've posted a photo in the first place.
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I'd still like to know what fits in that silver ferrule type thingy.
Ginch wrote:
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Yeah those barrels take a clutch cable with a big fat, short tapered "cone" on the end.. Hence the bevel in the silver barrel.
Can you link to one V?
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I'd still like to know what fits in that silver ferrule type thingy.
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Yeah those barrels take a clutch cable with a big fat, short tapered "cone" on the end.. Hence the bevel in the silver barrel.
Can you link to one V?
This:

See the short tapered coned end like I described..
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Aha. What do you call that? Is that a "pear"?
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Aha. What do you call that? Is that a "pear"?
yeah.. I couldn't remember what they call it.. but pear it is..
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Big weekend ahead though... so there's that.
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Well, upon taking this photo and really looking at it, there appears to be a groove in the lever. Is it made that or has the groove worn in over time?
I answered thid earlier.. It's supposed to be like that:
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Well, upon taking this photo and really looking at it, there appears to be a groove in the lever. Is it made that or has the groove worn in over time?
I answered thid earlier.. It's supposed to be like that:
You sure did.
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Vader19 wrote:
astromags wrote:
Well, upon taking this photo and really looking at it, there appears to be a groove in the lever. Is it made that or has the groove worn in over time?
I answered thid earlier.. It's supposed to be like that:
You sure did.
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yeah right? Don't drink.. Just had a weird semi-sleep
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i always use pear ends .... the brass end supposedly is better for ya lever than the lead jobby or summat like that .... the only down is that if they snap up top you can loose the brass end
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Re: vespawespadoohdaah
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i always use pear ends .... the brass end supposedly is better for ya lever than the lead jobby or summat like that .... the only down is that if they snap up top you can loose the brass end
I always figured you preferred bellends Bitz. Clown emoticon I kid, I kid...
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Out of curiosity, not often wandering NSM, would mountain bike brake cable work for your clutch? I was a bike mechanic in past years, and it is extremely rare that one of these would break (though they would brake quite well). And when they did self-destruct it was usually a too-tight bend or something rubbing that shouldn't have been.

http://www.performancebike.com/bikes/Product_10052_10551_1166961_-1_401018__401018
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...when they did self-destruct it was usually a too-tight bend or something rubbing that shouldn't have been.
More than likely this is my problem.

I've heard of the OEM ones lasting decades under the right conditions. Then again, they don't make stuff like they used too.
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Bike cables
I found the ends on bicycle cables were too big for use as gear cables, i used to grind back the knob... Now i simply drilled out the holder... So if a cable breaks its easy to replace at any bike shop.
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Re: Bike cables
SubEtherBASS wrote:
I found the ends on bicycle cables were too big for use as gear cables, i used to grind back the knob... Now i simply drilled out the holder... So if a cable breaks its easy to replace at any bike shop.
Well, there you go. And, in case it's news, there are some really flexible braided brake cables out there.
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