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I own a Sprinter cargo van. The interior is one big 5'x12' space. I have tie down rings around the perimeter. I think there is a technique for strapping down a motorcycle or sprinter in a 3 point arrangement but I can't seem to Google it. I'm talking about doing it without a front wheel chock.

Anyone know how this is done?

Alternatively, any wheel chock needs to be removable. Everything I've seen so far needs to be bolted down and that's not an option with my van.
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when me mate picks mine up he usually packs card n blankets n straps it to one side ..... never been damaged
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I had an F-150 and built a cradle out of 2" x 4"s for the tires to give it more stability. I locked the front in position and then got tie downs (the ratchet style) to go around the front handles and the back.

In a cargo van - couldn't you tighten it against a wall?

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I did see a few of those threads but I'm hoping to do it without a cradle or wheel chock but when I think about it, I can't figure out a way to make that secure.

Tightening against the wall would have me worried about either denting the scooter or denting the wall of the van.
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I've bungeed my P200 in a cargo van (e150) with the heavy duty bungee cords (they are solid rubber and sort of flat). I wrapped them around the steering column (where the headset big bolt is), then some on the back shock to pull it back (since the steering column ones pulled a little forward) - a little hard to explain, but the Vespa was basically suspended. It's good for a short run, but if going through rough terrain or really want to secure it try something else.

It worked for my purpose which was to drive it on the highway for about 60 miles.

Good luck.
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Last time around I just straddled it. Bike came out fine; I took some lumps tho.
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I attached a wheel choke to the floor; I secured the scooter with canyon dancer and tie downed attached to bases of front seats.
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This are a few options on how I tie to a ute, or anything, depends on mounting points.
If stressed about side panels, take them off first

Front shock
Front Around steering column (by bolt)
Rear around seat bolt. Or rack (I've got a big strong rack, and use it to lift th rear end)
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I transport all manner of bikes and scoots, even so I'm not going to attempt to advise you. What I will say is NEVER use ratcheting tie downs on the handlebars in the same manner you would on, say, a dirt bike. The cast aluminium headset used on shifty Vespas and Lambrettas will fracture.

The absolute worst case is when it's a contained fracture and it doesn't get noticed. You can be riding around on a bike with a handlebar that could let go anytime.

Always put the tiedown around the neck of the scooter (the steering head). The sketch from SubEtherBASS shows he knows to do this however vyatka's picture of the bike in the van from seems to show them at the grip ends. Because he's smart enough to have built a wheel chock though I'm guessing he knows and so doesn't haul down on them real tight.
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TCC wrote:
I transport all manner of bikes and scoots, even so I'm not going to attempt to advise you. What I will say is NEVER use ratcheting tie downs on the handlebars in the same manner you would on, say, a dirt bike. The cast aluminum headset used on shifty Vespas and Lambrettas will fracture.

The absolute worst case is when it's a contained fracture and it doesn't get noticed. You can be riding around on a bike with a handlebar that could let go anytime.

Always put the tiedown around the neck of the scooter (the steering head). The sketch from SubEtherBASS shows he knows to do this however vyatka's picture of the bike in the van from seems to show them at the grip ends. Because he's smart enough to have built a wheel chock though I'm guessing he knows and so doesn't haul down on them real tight.
Yes, there is some free play from both sides and at the same time it is secure enough. I use Canyon dancer, therefore the pressure on the handlebars is not as high as in case when tie downs are applied directly to the handgrips.
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SubEtherBASS wrote:
This are a few options on how I tie to a ute, or anything, depends on mounting points.
If stressed about side panels, take them off first

Front shock
Front Around steering column (by bolt)
Rear around seat bolt. Or rack (I've got a big strong rack, and use it to lift th rear end)
That is the worst drawing of a penis I have ever seen.
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SFvsr wrote:
That is the worst drawing of a penis I have ever seen.
Spoken in the manner of someone who has seen a lot.
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Re: lay down
T5bitza69 wrote:
when me mate picks mine up he usually packs card n blankets n straps it to one side ..... never been damaged
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SFvsr wrote:
That is the worst drawing of a penis I have ever seen.
Spoken in the manner of someone who has seen a lot.
My gf just informed me that that is how my penis will look next time I tell her I am buying another 6 scooters, and have to drive 2500km (while on "holiday") in a campervan to get 2 more!
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