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The US turn signal indicators AND side reflectors are in the way. Crying or Very sad emoticon
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Re: Faco crash bars won't fit US Primaveras
italianscoots wrote:
The US turn signal indicators AND side reflectors are in the way. Crying or Very sad emoticon
Then get rid of them.
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I would love to, euro conversion kits aren't available here yet. I will have to wait I guess.
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Ditching the reflectors is easy. Call AF1Racing and see if they can get the euro turn signals. No conversion is usually required, just get the euro lights, unplug and remove the ugly DOT stalks and use the connectors to plug into the euro signals. We just replaced the DOT stalks on the Sports City front with the euro turn signals which I think is actually more visible than the stalks being larger.
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Thanks!! Ill try that.
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cdwise wrote:
Ditching the reflectors is easy. Call AF1Racing and see if they can get the euro turn signals. No conversion is usually required, just get the euro lights, unplug and remove the ugly DOT stalks and use the connectors to plug into the euro signals. We just replaced the DOT stalks on the Sports City front with the euro turn signals which I think is actually more visible than the stalks being larger.
Can you provide a photo? Thanks, if so.
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italianscoots wrote:
I would love to, euro conversion kits aren't available here yet. I will have to wait I guess.
Scooterwest has them in stock. It puts the brake and taillight in the center and uses your existing red lenses for the turn signals. Less $$ than amber lenses.

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Thank YOU!!!
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I love scooter west and think they do a great job, but watching that video the turn signals flashed red.

That (in my opinion) is neither legal nor safe. There's a reason turn signals are yellow and brake lights red.
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iKevin wrote:
I love scooter west and think they do a great job, but watching that video the turn signals flashed red.

That (in my opinion) is neither legal nor safe. There's a reason turn signals are yellow and brake lights red.
ya better read up on the federal rules and laws,

Federal
Motor Vehicle Safety Standard No.
108 allows rear turn signals to
be either red or am
ber in color
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It's illegal and unsafe anywhere but in the US. Where apparently the brake lights can double as turn signals - very, very confusing to outsiders, and IMNSHO effin' dangerous.
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It's illegal and unsafe anywhere but in the US. Where apparently the brake lights can double as turn signals - very, very confusing to outsiders, and IMNSHO effin' dangerous.
I agree, and stand corrected.

Not to thread jack, but old as dirt; Are you going to the blue vs gray rally in Nashville this June?
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iKevin wrote:
jimc wrote:
It's illegal and unsafe anywhere but in the US. Where apparently the brake lights can double as turn signals - very, very confusing to outsiders, and IMNSHO effin' dangerous.
I agree, and stand corrected.

Not to thread jack, but old as dirt; Are you going to the blue vs gray rally in Nashville this June?
I will be in the middle of the cannonball during that time.
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lmctdot wrote:
cdwise wrote:
Ditching the reflectors is easy. Call AF1Racing and see if they can get the euro turn signals. No conversion is usually required, just get the euro lights, unplug and remove the ugly DOT stalks and use the connectors to plug into the euro signals. We just replaced the DOT stalks on the Sports City front with the euro turn signals which I think is actually more visible than the stalks being larger.
Can you provide a photo? Thanks, if so.
Not the best photo taken with the iPhone in the garage a few minutes ago, right turn signal on.
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jimc wrote:
It's illegal and unsafe anywhere but in the US. Where apparently the brake lights can double as turn signals - very, very confusing to outsiders, and IMNSHO effin' dangerous.
There is more than one law that covers this, and the one about the turn signals being a certain distance from the brake light comes into play here.

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