Modern Vespa

I find them a little homely to be honest. I'm just not a big fan of the rectangular headlight. But, if it's a beast performance wise (I'm using that term relatively), I could get over the looks.

Looking at a stock, unrestored 1986. Needs a lot of cosmetic work. There is some rust but it appears to be mostly surface rust at wear points (eg. cowling line along the body). It supposedly runs and comes with a title.

I figure with $500-1000 work, it's a good patina scooter.

What are these things worth?

theyre shit ..... oil seal goes in rear hub its inside so youre splitting cases ...... rear brakes different ...... the cables one piece inner n outer so the pedal has a slot in n a clip over it .... find me a clip

but then again ive 2 ..... havent a clue what theyre worth over there

Stick your hand up behind the rear light. There should be two rubber plugs. If they are there is a good sign. If they are missing any water that gets thrown up by the back wheel winds up between the frame and the welded on square tail.

I like the look of the mk1. P series are a bit plain Jane at the best of times. I think the headlight gives it a bit more character. The engine is the winner though

It's a beast performance wise, for a 125er.

T5: 'Life begins @5000 rpm'

if the rev counter dont work they are not repairable n replacements are like hens teeth so knock him down on that... if the lumps looked after youll have fun with it ... youll keep up with a standard 200

Faster than if I put a SIP exhaust and/or Pinasco 177 kit on my PX?

now if you're having a kitoff ill go malossi 172 then ..... byeeeeeee

ask jacko

The PX will have more torque because of the longer stroke.
The short stroke, aluminum/ nicasil T5 will sit happily at 60 mph while your kitted P is gasping for air.

My take having owned a stock T5 and a DR kitted sprint V( same as P), the T5 shines on long wide open straights, is a little wimpy down low unless you wring out every gear, so not so great for leisurely cruising, and forget about two up riding. Still, I do like the T5.

The trick to T5s is to thrash them. That's how they like it. You don't worry bout stressing then you can run them at day at 7500. Whoop! you want guts down low you kit them. Don't need to port them cos they are already ported huge.

In conclusion, I couldn't go back to a non t5

thats my problem jacko .... theyre moreish ... like crack