Mon Jun 20, 2022 4:24 pm

Molto Verboso
2019 Supertech (EURO3/APAC)
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Molto Verboso
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Mon Jun 20, 2022 4:24 pm linkquote
I was just going through the current list of their apps to list all the supported models and found a different app listed as for Internal Testing. And guess what I found in the description of this? "test IAP". What does IAP stand for? It's "In App Purchasing"

I suspect it could be for renewing the navigation license which is only 3 years with a supertech and for me runs out in about 6 months. Cheapskates, should be unlimited

If it is only this then it won't affect me as I use my own app to relay google maps to the tft on my supertech

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Mon Jun 20, 2022 4:52 pm

Enthusiast
2019 GTS300
Joined: 22 Apr 2021
Posts: 75
Location: Twin Cities, USA
 
Enthusiast
2019 GTS300
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Location: Twin Cities, USA
Mon Jun 20, 2022 4:52 pm linkquote
3rd party systems (Google/Apple, etc) seem to be the long term solution for the transportation industry. 3rd parties want/need your data, and that only comes if their product is useful, so they'll update and refresh to keep you.

Even most auto manufacturers charged $$ to update maps on their installed GPS systems (which look ugly and outdated after a year or 2). Manufacturers are not going to commit to a lifetime of software updates like maps. Their product is the vehicle, and you already bought it
Mon Jun 20, 2022 5:03 pm

Molto Verboso
2019 Supertech (EURO3/APAC)
Joined: 17 Nov 2020
Posts: 1869
Location: Batmania aka Melbourne, Australia
 
Molto Verboso
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Mon Jun 20, 2022 5:03 pm linkquote
mrob wrote:
3rd party systems (Google/Apple, etc) seem to be the long term solution for the transportation industry. 3rd parties want/need your data, and that only comes if their product is useful, so they'll update and refresh to keep you.

Even most auto manufacturers charged $$ to update maps on their installed GPS systems (which look ugly and outdated after a year or 2). Manufacturers are not going to commit to a lifetime of software updates like maps. Their product is the vehicle, and you already bought it
Yup. Bastards.

FYI it's not Google/Apple in this case. Piaggio licence their navigation system from here.com. And for curiosity here's the Wikipedia info
Quote:
HERE Technologies (trading as HERE) is a multinational group dealing with mapping, location data and related automotive services to individuals and companies. It is majority-owned by a consortium of German automotive companies (namely Audi, BMW, the Mercedes-Benz Group) and American semiconductor company Intel whilst other companies also own minority stakes. Its roots date back to U.S.-based Navteq in 1985, which was acquired by Finland-based Nokia in 2007. HERE is currently based in The Netherlands.
Mon Jun 20, 2022 5:16 pm

Veni, Vidi, Posti
LX190 Friday afternoon special, Primavera, some pushbikes
Joined: 12 Oct 2007
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Location: Hermit Kingdom
 
Veni, Vidi, Posti
LX190 Friday afternoon special, Primavera, some pushbikes
Joined: 12 Oct 2007
Posts: 8230
Location: Hermit Kingdom
Mon Jun 20, 2022 5:16 pm linkquote
Hopefully they get CarPlay integration soon.

Now where are my nomex underpants?
Mon Jun 20, 2022 5:18 pm

Molto Verboso
2019 Supertech (EURO3/APAC)
Joined: 17 Nov 2020
Posts: 1869
Location: Batmania aka Melbourne, Australia
 
Molto Verboso
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Posts: 1869
Location: Batmania aka Melbourne, Australia
Mon Jun 20, 2022 5:18 pm linkquote
znomit wrote:
Now where are my nomex underpants?
In the wash 'cause you wear them so much 😝
Mon Jun 20, 2022 8:47 pm

Ossessionato
2015 GTS 300 Super (Melody: 2015-2021, RIP) 2022 GTS SuperTech (Thelonica)
Joined: 22 Apr 2015
Posts: 3610
Location: Asbury Park, NJ
 
Ossessionato
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Location: Asbury Park, NJ
Mon Jun 20, 2022 8:47 pm linkquote
steelbytes wrote:
I was just going through the current list of their apps to list all the supported models and found a different app listed as for Internal Testing. And guess what I found in the description of this? "test IAP". What does IAP stand for? It's "In App Purchasing"

I suspect it could be for renewing the navigation license which is only 3 years with a supertech and for me runs out in about 6 months. Cheapskates, should be unlimited

If it is only this then it won't affect me as I use my own app to relay google maps to the tft on my supertech
Well, the other thing is that Piaggio's GPS map thingy is…what's the word I want here?…ah, yes, "underbaked." I play with it here-and-there, but it's seriously short on depth/details. Your app, combined with Google Maps, is the solid move from here on out, unless the big P invests in seriously beefing-up their offering. (Won't say it can't happen, but will it?)
Mon Jun 20, 2022 10:33 pm

Molto Verboso
2019 Supertech (EURO3/APAC)
Joined: 17 Nov 2020
Posts: 1869
Location: Batmania aka Melbourne, Australia
 
Molto Verboso
2019 Supertech (EURO3/APAC)
Joined: 17 Nov 2020
Posts: 1869
Location: Batmania aka Melbourne, Australia
Mon Jun 20, 2022 10:33 pm linkquote
amateriat wrote:
Well, the other thing is that Piaggio's GPS map thingy is…what's the word I want here?…ah, yes, "underbaked." I play with it here-and-there, but it's seriously short on depth/details. Your app, combined with Google Maps, is the solid move from here on out, unless the big P invests in seriously beefing-up their offering. (Won't say it can't happen, but will it?)
"underbaked"? lol, just a tad. It doesn't work properly and they appear to want to charge for part of it. Fail.

BTW the most recent update to Google maps broke my detection of their nav icons. Just finished fixing that today, should be uploaded to the store once i test it a bit more on the road.
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