Mon, 12 Jul 2021 15:29:11 +0000

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The Hornet (GT200, aka Love Bug) and 'Dimples' - a GTS 300
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Mon, 12 Jul 2021 15:29:11 +0000 quote
Are those the cheapo garden hose type of clamps, whose cut threads go all the way through the steel? If so, no wonder they leaked. The correct clamps have stamped threads that do NOT go all the way through, so are much stronger and can properly compress the tough rubber of coolant hoses.
Mon, 12 Jul 2021 17:28:46 +0000

Molto Verboso
2006 LX150 (carbed) | 2007 GT200
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Molto Verboso
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Mon, 12 Jul 2021 17:28:46 +0000 quote
rdhood wrote:
Yes, this is an old topic, but I had the exact same leak and this topic is woefully inadequate on pictures.
Nice contribution!
Mon, 12 Jul 2021 18:46:11 +0000

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2013 BV350, 2014 GTS , 2016 GTS, 2013 Downtown 300i, 2018 Like 150i
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Mon, 12 Jul 2021 18:46:11 +0000 quote
jimc wrote:
Are those the cheapo garden hose type of clamps, whose cut threads go all the way through the steel? If so, no wonder they leaked. The correct clamps have stamped threads that do NOT go all the way through, so are much stronger and can properly compress the tough rubber of coolant hoses.
No, it was the Piaggo-installed squeeze-type hose clamps. Thus far, I have had 3 fail on my BV350, and now three have failed on the Vespa.

I have absolutely no faith in the factory hose clamps. Cheap garden hose clamps are an improvement as they actually work
Tue, 13 Jul 2021 00:37:25 +0000

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The Hornet (GT200, aka Love Bug) and 'Dimples' - a GTS 300
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Tue, 13 Jul 2021 00:37:25 +0000 quote
Actually the Oetiker clamps are pretty damn good - if the right size is used with the right material. PEX plumbing is all done with them - and those joints never leak! They are also the Right Thing to use with high pressure fuel hoses and air conditioning systems in cars.

However, Piaggio have used them with hoses that seem to compress and loosen over many heat cycles. The clamps are good - the implementation is crap. The pressures in a Vespa system aren't even that great.

So Jubilee clips (or equivalent) are the way to go. If the clamps cost less than ~50 cents each, treat them with suspicion.
Sun, 01 Aug 2021 13:50:57 +0000

Molto Verboso
2006 LX150 (carbed) | 2007 GT200
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Molto Verboso
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Sun, 01 Aug 2021 13:50:57 +0000 quote
rdhood wrote:
Yes, this is an old topic, but I had the exact same leak and this topic is woefully inadequate on pictures.
I came across another old thread that has lots of pictures on the removal process. Linking here for reference:
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