Modern Vespa

Disclaimer: I am not an expert on trim at all. I'm just going to consolidate the information below into a single post. I will update as much as I can. Feel free to point out errors or additional information. Especially looking for information on accessory trim part numbers.

Anything in Bold, I have independently verified.

NUMBER BRAND TYPE MODEL
035 ULMA Single VNB
037 ULMA Single v50
41 ULMA Single GS160
44 ULMA Single (66< SS180), Sprint 66-67, Rally 180 and Rally 200 (no gazelle)
57 ULMA (red) Double SS180
61 ULMA Double VBA/VBB
107 ULMA Single GS150 Italian
110 ULMA Double GS/3 (GS150)
113 ULMA Double VNB
116 ULMA Double GS160
117 ULMA Double GS150
119 ULMA ? ?
151 ULMA Single Sprint
162 ULMA Single VL3 - has word Ulma, Rabbit and Circle.
168 ULMA Single VB1
202 ULMA Single SS180 (1st year only 65)
207 ULMA Single GS160
247 ULMA VB1
250 ULMA Single MISA VGLA1T
251 ULMA Single 62-65 125cc, 150cc VBB and 59-65 GL.
254 ULMA Single Dutch GL possibly VBB / T4
261 ULMA Single 62-65 125cc, 150cc VBB and 59-65 GL.
268 ULMA Double T4 / VBB
269 ULMA Double VBA / VBB
422 ULMA Double Lambretta???
423 ULMA Single SS50 / SS90
564 ULMA Double ???
10.035 ULMA 62-65 125cc, 150cc VBB and 59-65 GL.
10.037 ULMA Single 50cc 66-67
10.038 ULMA Single GS150
10.047 ULMA Single 62-65 125cc, 150cc VBB and 59-65 GL.
10.433 ULMA Single 125cc 66-67 Vespa
20 ULMA Single GS150
43 Augsburg Single GS150
48 659 ULMA Single T2, T3, GS2, Messerschmitt GS (Germany only).
GS/61 Augsburg Single GS/3 (GS150)
GS/62 Augsburg Single GS/4 (GS160) Brass

Credit to GSF: http://www.germanscooterforum.de/topic/109197-alle-schlitzrohre-nummern/page-2


Hat tip: Medtech, SoCalGuy, Mod Scientist, Adi Philips

This is what I have ..,

(org.nr.10.433) 125cc 66-67
(org.nr.107, 10.038) GS 55-62
(org.nr.207 041) GS 63-65
(org.nr.202 044) SPRINT 65-67 SS 65-67
(org.nr.10.037) 50cc 66-67

To add to that.

The German GS4s (GS160s) had had some with GS.62 stamped on them.

Reference: http://www.germanscooterforum.de/topic/107596-schlitzrohr-f%C3%BCr-gs160-gs4/

Awesome Medtec (btw... I love Argentina.. I work down there occasionally).

Our 1976 Super has 044 on it. Not original, but fits. Been told it came on Rallys.

and on late SSs , my ss has the 044 ...

turbineguy .. nice you like argentina .., hope someday we can meet here, are you Peter , the germn with the VBB?

more info on legshields trims, i copied this sometime ago, I think from the Yahoo GS forum, cant remember WHO wrote this ...

1) EVERY sport model vintage bike came with STAINLESS STEEL Ulma-manufactured legshield trim. It's in 2 pieces, has a scalloped cut down at the bottom where it wraps around the outermost floorstrip endcap, and has BRASS grubb screws to hold it in place...which are tapped into the steel trim.

This also is stamped on each piece with a 3 digit number, and is typically accompanied by the small rabbit logo of the Ulma company who made it. Each model had their own set of trim.. [ GS150 ], [GS160] , [SS180, Rally 180 and Rally 200]. I bracketed the ones that will fit eachother, but each one had it's own set of numbers for them. I want to say the SS180 used #202, the GS160 used #207, and i seem to remember #044 for the Rally 200 but i forget.

This legshield beading is not reproduced, is expensive to get on ebay ( typically about $250 a set ), and is FAR FAR FAR superior to any aftermarket stuff you buy now in every way.

2) In addition to those models above which came STOCK with the ulma trim, they did make ACCESSORY aftermarket trim in the 60's for the VBB / VNB style frame. I forget the numbers for this particular one, but i've seen them for sale on the BBS spam page.

3) You can buy aftermarket chromed steel legshield beading, typically made by cuppini, which is really chinsy. The chrome will flake off pretty quickly, and the set screws aren't tapped - they are just machine screws and frequently vibrate right out of the trim.

4) By default, all the sport models had the ulma trim. Allstates had NO trim. Every other large and smallframe model i can think of that doesn't fall into one of those 2 categories had the standard CRIMPED on aluminum legshield trim. You use a special tool to install this.

More on LS trims ..
A month ago I was at Pontedera, Piaggio Museum, and was very surprised ( dissapointed?) when examining the VS5 they have there I noticed some weird thngs .., between them the fact that the legshield trim wasnt ULMA ...

I will be faced with getting a trim once my scooter is painted. I didn't realize how involved it is.

No. Im the American with two German Vespas. Where do you live. I worked in Salta, and Ive been to Buenos Aires.

Did you happen to get pictures?

I'm going to consolidate all the information into the first post.

its not hard to find at all for the px's you can buy new

Im not sure about the germans or cushmans or acmas, but GS150 from italia had ULMA 107, you can see more detiled pictures in a post on a VS4 restauration here, in MV, the one from JP Stano, in Mauro Pascoli museum there is a german GS conservatta , i dont have detailed pics of it but may be it could be useful for reference ..
VS5 at piaggio Museum , no ULMA,
My VS5

Some of the 'restorations' at the Piaggio Museum in Pontedera are awful at best. For factory models the Pascoli Museum is much better. The Casa Lambretta Museum also has a few very obvious Indian repro parts on some of their Lambretta 'restorations'.

Word on the street is Scootopia will be reproducing ULMA the 'inox' trim for the Sports models. Fingers crossed.

Yes, at least they have to put clear when the bike is restored or not, as pascoli does, many people goes there looking for a reference in their restos ..., I always feel that piaggio didnt care so much about vespisti ( specially vintage ones) ( spares, information, references, etc) ...
Anyway the museum and the factory are nice, but could be better, there are no SS180 , no GLs , etc ...

I updated my post above with some new numbers. Once again, if Im wrong about anything or you can clarify... let me know.

Quality thread. Very useful. Thanks.

Ah yes, the SS, the good ol' glorified Sprint. That makes sense the 044 would fit.

I have Ulma 041 on my GS 160 mark II. I bought it from Peter (Ricambiscooter) on eBay. I went back and forth with him in messages and he cross-checked several times to make sure it is equivalent to 207. It is according to him. It ended up fitting perfectly, so I don't doubt him.

I just caught that. That's reassuring. Mine is a 64'.

Can you post photos of your trim... specifically the number at the end.

I also updated my list to take out the question marks. Thank you for confirming.

I imported my list into an excel file I will maintain, and reposted it so it should be a bit neater. And in numerical order.

I also corrected some information.

As always, let me know if you have any information or updates.

Also... Peter from Ricambi Vespa Parts Ebay fame is going to be providing me a scan of a parts manual that will have a lot of updates and new info.

I've found a 250 ULMA set, with extra markings (the hare and an IWDI (?) stamp) - possibly off a Dutch GLx, but not sure.

Nice find. Do yet me know when you figure out what it's off.

If its off a GLx, then I assume its basically a VBB style. Same as a T4 from Germany.

Spotted the 250 on a MISA VGLA1T the MISA topic @ GSF:
http://www.germanscooterforum.de/topic/256941-das-ultimative-misa-belgien-vespa-topic/page-6#entry1067625301

Saw a set of original trim on a VL3 this weekend at Scooter O.

Ulma 162

Note the stamps.
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Great list, thanks for compiling it.

Regarding this line:
"107 ULMA Single GS150 Italian"
I can confirm that the 107's are found on Cushman GS150 VS5 that were sold in the US.

Also it should be noted that some of these trims will say 'INOX' on them. Inox is a shortened form for the French word 'inoxydable' and means simply 'stainless steel'. It's not a brand or anything else.

That's a trip. I always thought it was a brand. I guess it does not appear on chromed brass then. Aren't some legshield trims chromed brass?

My SS180 trim is 044. I have a V90 that has C37 trim.

I cannot find a stamp on mine... makes me think aftermarket.

Does anyone have the GS160 legshield trim #41, 116 or 207 for sale ?

More legshield trim info

Bit of an update...

Ulma 433 referenced a few places above for "125cc" and/or possibly GT or Supers. Appears to be the mythical sport trim for small frames and maybe the motovespa gt

I have sourced a set, so will confirm upon arrival.

Got my paws on a set of 433.
Made for small frames ~67 but can also confirm it sure appears like it will also fit the the Motovespa GT160.