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This looks a laugh!
Hmmm.....can't make up my mind whether to loath or love it. I'll salute the low weight, nice engine specs and simple constraction.....just wish it didn't look like put together from the various bits and pieces found from the shop shelves. Or perhaps I'm missing a point here and it's supposed to look exactly like that.

It's kind of a bike I wish my neighbour bought and would just let me borrow once and a while.
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It's supposed to emulate a project cafe racer. I think it's cool.
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It's supposed to emulate a project cafe racer. I think it's cool.
Yeah, that thing's hawwt! Spitfire was my favorite WW2 plane. I'll take one of those CCM Spitfires too, please!

In all seriousness, as much as I like the retro looks of the new Royal Enfield Interceptor Twin, it seems that early reviews suggest that it rides retro as well. This has me leaning more and more towards the Svartpilen or Sixty2 as my next bike.

Lastly, a big thank you to all those who shared their experiences with the new V7. I just love the looks of that one. Maybe I'll get one of those too.
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The Svartpilen is listed on the Vey's Powersports webpage but when I stopped by the El Cajon location on Saturday they said that they didn't know when it's coming out. GP had a nice little 1975 Kawasaki Scrambler 400 that looked very tempting. From what I can tell, Australian dealers are due to get the new Huskies in March, so, I imagine it will be close to that for the U.S. GP seems to always have the best deals so I'm guessing that's where I'll eventually buy one.


Although my Bajaj is built like a tank and designed to traverse over goat roads in India, I like that the Svartpilen looks like it could handle some light trail riding. Vey's had a Suzuki VanVan 200 in stock and I was really tempted but I'm guessing that the Svartpilen will run circles around the VanVan on the streets though. Hopefully it will be worth the wait.

In regards to the VanVan, I kept thinking, "what a cool little dirt pig for a California road legal bike!"
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"That'll do, pig. That'll do."
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The Svartpilen is listed on the Vey's Powersports webpage but when I stopped by the El Cajon location on Saturday they said that they didn't know when it's coming out. GP had a nice little 1975 Kawasaki Scrambler 400 that looked very tempting. From what I can tell, Australian dealers are due to get the new Huskies in March, so, I imagine it will be close to that for the U.S. GP seems to always have the best deals so I'm guessing that's where I'll eventually buy one.


Although my Bajaj is built like a tank and designed to traverse over goat roads in India, I like that the Svartpilen looks like it could handle some light trail riding. Vey's had a Suzuki VanVan 200 in stock and I was really tempted but I'm guessing that the Svartpilen will run circles around the VanVan on the streets though. Hopefully it will be worth the wait.

In regards to the VanVan, I kept thinking, "what a cool little dirt pig for a California road legal bike!"
Saw one of these in a trailer park in Florida a few weeks ago. Every time I drove past it I wanted to jump on it.

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The Svartpilen is listed on the Vey's Powersports webpage but when I stopped by the El Cajon location on Saturday they said that they didn't know when it's coming out. GP had a nice little 1975 Kawasaki Scrambler 400 that looked very tempting. From what I can tell, Australian dealers are due to get the new Huskies in March, so, I imagine it will be close to that for the U.S. GP seems to always have the best deals so I'm guessing that's where I'll eventually buy one.


Although my Bajaj is built like a tank and designed to traverse over goat roads in India, I like that the Svartpilen looks like it could handle some light trail riding. Vey's had a Suzuki VanVan 200 in stock and I was really tempted but I'm guessing that the Svartpilen will run circles around the VanVan on the streets though. Hopefully it will be worth the wait.

In regards to the VanVan, I kept thinking, "what a cool little dirt pig for a California road legal bike!"
VanVan is FunFun....it's so comfy and technically good bike, that it would be nice to have also, say a 400cc version for serious trashing about. It's also the kind of bike that always when I park it somewhere in the nearest city, there will be someone coming to admire the looks and ask me what bike I've restored....

For an experienced off-road rider, the lack of power may be an issue. Power slides with VanVan are limited to loose gravel only.....but on the other hand it handles nicely, in predictable easy way, and you can ride quite fast in rough paths. Also, it's not a highway bike. If I would decide to have two bikes, I'd never get rid of my VanVan200 - love it for small roads, forest paths and lazy city visits. The build quality is also superb. But I'm likely to trade it into a bit more road capable bike in the future in order to be able to ride better with my street bike friends.
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Well, not new, but damn cool anyway: just saw the Guzzi's V7 Rough live.

It's a nice package, kind of collects "ths best of V7" features into one bike.

It's not for chrome polisher - type of guys though. Black, matte(ish) and brushed aluminium.
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I see that the new Royal Enfield Twins are out
Not anyplace a US rider can buy one.
Thanks, I didn't know that.

As much as I like the retro looks of the Moto Guzzi as well as the BMW R Nine T Pure, and Triumph Street Twin, I fear that I'd miss some of the fun factor associated with smaller displacement bikes. So, I find my interest being drawn more and more to the sub 400 cc crowd like the Ducati Sixty2, Yamaha SR400, BMW G310R, KTM 390 Duke, and now the Husqvarna 401 Svartpilen.

The shorter wheelbase and more modern technical specifications of the KTM Duke 390 appeal to my intellect while the Yamaha SR400 pulls at my heartstrings. I think I would have to highly modify the SR400 into a Street Tracker to be really satisfied but I could see how that could be a really fun journey.

But, wow, does that new Husqvarna 401 Svartpillen appeal to both my head and my heart. It's a retro Street Scrambler in the most futuristic of ways. I want one!
Just saw first time these Husqvarnas in flesh ata motorcycle exhibition. They certainly are no copycats, quite unique design!

The riding position is much more "cafe racer" style than I realized. There was no opportunity to test ride one, but just sit on. All models were very sporty, lean forward -type bikes.
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That's a really nice lookong bike, Can Man.

While visiting the motorcycle exhibition yesterday, I actually stopped also at Honda's booth and admired the latest CB1100EX. They've added spoked wheels among other things, it's simply an astonishing looker and admirable quality on details. They claim even the sound track is now improved with the new pipes.

For me, there are only two downsides: the weight and price
Being a short legged guy, I just simply hate moving around over 200kg bikes with my toes.

Have a gravel yard so my every trip start with moving the bike a bit with my toes - I have a kind of a "slot" for the bike. I can ride straight in, but have to push back and make some zig-zag turns back and forth. Good reminder on the weight thing.

If Honda would make a similar CB600, which propably would solve both the weight and price issues, I would run to the shop and get one.
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I see that the new Royal Enfield Twins are out
Not anyplace a US rider can buy one.
Thanks, I didn't know that.

As much as I like the retro looks of the Moto Guzzi as well as the BMW R Nine T Pure, and Triumph Street Twin, I fear that I'd miss some of the fun factor associated with smaller displacement bikes. So, I find my interest being drawn more and more to the sub 400 cc crowd like the Ducati Sixty2, Yamaha SR400, BMW G310R, KTM 390 Duke, and now the Husqvarna 401 Svartpilen.

The shorter wheelbase and more modern technical specifications of the KTM Duke 390 appeal to my intellect while the Yamaha SR400 pulls at my heartstrings. I think I would have to highly modify the SR400 into a Street Tracker to be really satisfied but I could see how that could be a really fun journey.

But, wow, does that new Husqvarna 401 Svartpillen appeal to both my head and my heart. It's a retro Street Scrambler in the most futuristic of ways. I want one!
Just saw first time these Husqvarnas in flesh ata motorcycle exhibition. They certainly are no copycats, quite unique design!

The riding position is much more "cafe racer" style than I realized. There was no opportunity to test ride one, but just sit on. All models were very sporty, lean forward -type bikes.
That's the Vitpilen ("White Arrow" in Swedish) which is their Cafe Racer styled bike. I'm still planning on picking up the Svartpilen ("Expeditious Flatulence" in Swedish) which is their Scrambler/Street-Tracker styled bike.
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RRider, thanks for the nice words. I agree that a smaller version of the CB1100 would be perfect. If only Honda would resurrect the CB550 four, now that would be a bike to have. I love my 1100 though. It reminds me of those UJM's of the 80's that I grew up lusting over.
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Can Man, I too owned the new CB1100. Sold it when I went in another direction motorcycle-wise.

Honda has sold a new model CB400 in Japan for a number of years, unfortunately never was sold in the U.S. Looks sweet!
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Still no Genuine 400C I guess?
give up on them.
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This isn't a real bike. Just a concept design I found on the Net but how cool would it be? Pretty much my perfect bike. Come on Moto Guzzi. Bring back the Le Mans!!
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Still no Genuine 400C I guess?
give up on them.
No, they are coming soon!

http://genuinescooters.com/g400c.html
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This is what I've owned for the past 5 years here in the UK, as well as a Yamaha DT400,Us import, and my GTS 300 Touring and a Honda SH 125 scooter and a 1973 Yamaha RD350. [img][/img]
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This is what I've owned for the past 5 years here in the UK, as well as a Yamaha DT400,Us import, and my GTS 300 Touring and a Honda SH 125 scooter and a 1973 Yamaha RD350. [img][/img]
That's a real thumber, with a big T! Nice looking bike and good collection.
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That Suzuki looks great, we get stuck with the low seated, pullback bars, forward controls model S40 here. Genuine still shows the G400 as 2016 model year. And, hopefully I will get me a new Husqvarna Svartpilen (black arrow) when they are released, if the seat height feels lower than it looks on the specs (32").
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I love it and will never sell it, it's 400cc, engine based on the Savage LS650 design, but with chain drive and a 5 speed gearbox. Only 30 bhp, but cruises at 65 mph all day, does 70 mpg as well. I love the low seat height and being a small short*rse, the 157kg weight is spot on for me.
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We never get the cool bikes the rest of the world gets. Crying or Very sad emoticon Crying or Very sad emoticon Crying or Very sad emoticon
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My Suzuki was a Japanese home market import, never officially imported into the UK, I've only ever seen 3 other ones in the flesh, and a couple on Fleabay, I suspect that there are only around 10 to 15 in this country, I've had loads of offers for mine.
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No, they are coming soon!

http://genuinescooters.com/g400c.html
To quote the Danny DeVito line from Romancing the Stone -

"Soon", "How soon"?, "Very soon".
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My Suzuki was a Japanese home market import, never officially imported into the UK, I've only ever seen 3 other ones in the flesh, and a couple on Fleabay, I suspect that there are only around 10 to 15 in this country, I've had loads of offers for mine.
I owned a S40 and this was the direction I would have liked to take it. But it simply was going to be too much work, that is, frame cutting, welding, more welding, etc... Nice torquey motor, very reliable, a blast to ride, but all wrong for highway riding, which is what it was supposedly set up for. Sold it and moved on.
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Still no Genuine 400C I guess?
give up on them.
No, they are coming soon!

http://genuinescooters.com/g400c.html
Yeah, that article says coming for 2016 model year!
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I think the S40 had the distinction of being the most excruciatingly uncomfortable ride ever. And a 90 mile range. Looking for gas every 70 Miles was a mixture of exasperation and relief. How I rode it for 20,000 miles I will never know. You have to be tough to be stupid.
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I think the S40 had the distinction of being the most excruciatingly uncomfortable ride ever. And a 90 mile range. Looking for gas every 70 Miles was a mixture of exasperation and relief. How I rode it for 20,000 miles I will never know. You have to be tough to be stupid.
Never rode the S40 but last year I rode an S50 for a couple of months and that was easily the most uncomfortable bike ever ridden, they are nice looking bikes tho.
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I think the S40 had the distinction of being the most excruciatingly uncomfortable ride ever. And a 90 mile range. Looking for gas every 70 Miles was a mixture of exasperation and relief. How I rode it for 20,000 miles I will never know. You have to be tough to be stupid.
I think that is very much a matter of your size and personal ergonomic preferences. I rode an S40 for several years and much enjoyed the bike. It was also a surprisingly smooth performer for a thumper. Now, a friend rode mine a couple of times. He is 6'4". He looked like a circus bear on a tricycle on that S40. You could see the grimace on his face from 100 yards.
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This is what I've owned for the past 5 years here in the UK, as well as a Yamaha DT400,Us import, and my GTS 300 Touring and a Honda SH 125 scooter and a 1973 Yamaha RD350.
The RD350 is such a fun bike to ride. Use to own one too.
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This is what I've owned for the past 5 years here in the UK, as well as a Yamaha DT400,Us import, and my GTS 300 Touring and a Honda SH 125 scooter and a 1973 Yamaha RD350.
The RD350 is such a fun bike to ride. Use to own one too.
Every 2 stroke motorcycle that I have owned was a pleasure to ride, more so than some 4 strokes. Bring them back.
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This is what I've owned for the past 5 years here in the UK, as well as a Yamaha DT400,Us import, and my GTS 300 Touring and a Honda SH 125 scooter and a 1973 Yamaha RD350.
The RD350 is such a fun bike to ride. Use to own one too.
Every 2 stroke motorcycle that I have owned was a pleasure to ride, more so than some 4 strokes. Bring them back.
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This is what I've owned for the past 5 years here in the UK, as well as a Yamaha DT400,Us import, and my GTS 300 Touring and a Honda SH 125 scooter and a 1973 Yamaha RD350. [img][/img]
That's a real thumber, with a big T! Nice looking bike and good collection.
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heise Autos has a gallery of 125cc motorcycles currently on the market in Germany. Some of these would be great with a 250cc engine.

Comments are in German, of course.
https://www.heise.de/autos/artikel/25-interessante-125er-in-Deutschland-3965307.html
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This is what I've owned for the past 5 years here in the UK, as well as a Yamaha DT400,Us import, and my GTS 300 Touring and a Honda SH 125 scooter and a 1973 Yamaha RD350. [img][/img]
That's a real thumber, with a big T! Nice looking bike and good collection.
RRider
What is a "Thumber"?
Colt.45
It's a misspelled Thumper

A single cylinder four-stroke engine.

I have a fatal combination of a touch screen, auto-correction and an overloaded = slow pad...and being not patient enough to read my texts through, the result is "thumbers".
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We never get the cool bikes the rest of the world gets. Crying or Very sad emoticon Crying or Very sad emoticon Crying or Very sad emoticon
My Suzuki was a Japanese home market import, never officially imported into the UK, I've only ever seen 3 other ones in the flesh, and a couple on Fleabay, I suspect that there are only around 10 to 15 in this country, I've had loads of offers for mine.
We lust over these on www.suzukisavage.com
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Der Blechfahrer wrote:
heise Autos has a gallery of 125cc motorcycles currently on the market in Germany. Some of these would be great with a 250cc engine.

Comments are in German, of course.
https://www.heise.de/autos/artikel/25-interessante-125er-in-Deutschland-3965307.html
Fantic Caballero is available as a 250...and 500

"Return" of Zundapp is interesting...
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rrider,

there's a dealer listed in finland.

we'll be expecting a full review!!
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ritchey wrote:
rrider,

there's a dealer listed in finland.

we'll be expecting a full review!!


There's a logic behind why Finland is among the firsts to promote the Caballero.
There was a strong Trial bike scene in Finland, peaking from late 70's to early 90's. Fantic was one of the key brands, among such like Bultaco, Beta and SWM.

I've paid attention to Caballeros....the 125cc version has a Yamaha/Minarelli engine, but 250/500 models a Chinese one....Fantic claims to have a strong involvement in the engine design + it uses also Italian components, but let's see....

Pricing should be very interesting, the 500cc version is closest to my heart - well under 50hp, but also well under 150kg weight!
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