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I've got my money waiting on the Honda Bulldog. The latest article I've found states that it's getting closer to production. Maybe we will see it here in 2016. Hope so, I want one.


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It's impossible not to love Honda for the weird stuff they do. I'l just hope there is storage space between the seat and bars, not a huge Paris-Dakar gas tank. And this bike better be a CVT Scooter emoticon
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It's impossible not to love Honda for the weird stuff they do. I'l just hope there is storage space between the seat and bars, not a huge Paris-Dakar gas tank. And this bike better be a CVT Scooter emoticon
It has been said that there is storage space in the tank area, but they don't say how much space. Notice the two cargo racks also- one in the rear and one surrounding the headlights. The concept shown is not a CVT as evidenced by the clutch lever, but IDK why they couldn't put the DCT auto trans in it, especially that despite the knobby tires, everyone is calling it a city bike.
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In 1969 I had a Greeves 250 MX dirt bike. Always had issues. Difficult to ride with the reversed shifter and brake. I always liked their old sportsman, but could never afford one. Oh, the memories...
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Yamaha's resonator 125 concept. The attention to detail, wow.
Claude, where do you keep finding this stuff?

Here's a youtube video of it. Small motorcycle porn, for sure.
That's an interesting way to mount a license plate. It looks like there's a GoPro mounted on the headlight and the clocks appear to be a small tablet or iPad. Modern Retro, indeed.
Holy sh*t that's gorgeous! I think I saw that on Jalopnik but I was worked up after seeing it I'm not sure. "Motorcycle porn" as you said. It is a concept bike and looking like that it would cost as much as a Sr 400 or more so the chance that bike going into production looking like that and being sold in America is nil. How on earth would you sell a 125cc bike to a North American for $5000 dollars? The local SYM dealer has had a SYM Wolf on the floor for two years. He just can't move it because of the displacement.
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If you're gonna go retro...
Go retro! I just added a new stablemate to my beloved '06 Vespa GT 200-a 1974 BMW R75/6.

Always wanted an airhead, and after patiently scouring Craigslist for nearly a decade, found "the one."

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I can't adequately describe the beauty of beholding her, the fun of tinkering, and the joy of riding her...right down to the characteristic left carb gas-dribble on your shifter toe.

After the necessary TLC (new rubber, stainless steel brake lines, fluid changes and some carb-tuning), she runs and handles breathtakingly well.

Plus there's just something about riding a machine with similar patina to your own. Reminds you of who you are, when you came from, and how far you've come.

And they look like siblings...

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I've got my money waiting on the Honda Bulldog. The latest article I've found states that it's getting closer to production. Maybe we will see it here in 2016. Hope so, I want one.


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Looks like the love child of a Helix and CBR.
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In 1969 I had a Greeves 250 MX dirt bike. Always had issues. Difficult to ride with the reversed shifter and brake. I always liked their old sportsman, but could never afford one. Oh, the memories...
...Now Nortons and Indians and Greeveses won't do. They don't have a soul like a Vincent 52...
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Holy sh*t that's gorgeous! I think I saw that on Jalopnik but I was worked up after seeing it I'm not sure. "Motorcycle porn" as you said. It is a concept bike and looking like that it would cost as much as a Sr 400 or more so the chance that bike going into production looking like that and being sold in America is nil. How on earth would you sell a 125cc bike to a North American for $5000 dollars? The local SYM dealer has had a SYM Wolf on the floor for two years. He just can't move it because of the displacement.
Mrs. Scotter walked in on me the other day while I was watching some youtube videos of the Moto Guzzi V7 on the PS3. She said, "I knew it; You're binge-watching Motorcycle Porn!" Apparently she couldn't look away from the screen either and decided to participate in said activity. I'm lucky that way...
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Go retro! I just added a new stablemate to my beloved '06 Vespa GT 200-a 1974 BMW R75/6.

Always wanted an airhead, and after patiently scouring Craigslist for nearly a decade, found "the one."

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I can't adequately describe the beauty of beholding her, the fun of tinkering, and the joy of riding her...right down to the characteristic left carb gas-dribble on your shifter toe.

After the necessary TLC (new rubber, stainless steel brake lines, fluid changes and some carb-tuning), she runs and handles breathtakingly well.

Plus there's just something about riding a machine with similar patina to your own. Reminds you of who you are, when you came from, and how far you've come.
Congrats! That bike is gorgeous! I'm officially envious. Did you get a set of panniers for it yet?

Even though I've never ridden one, I've always loved the looks of an old airhead boxer and have lusted over the R65, R75/5, R80, and R100 over the years. Mala Mujer and I have been discussing taking a course or two in small engine maintenance or motorcycle mechanics to feel confidant enough to work on something like an old airhead. So, it's possible that we could "go retro" yet.

Definitely not a resto or a cafe racer but the most recent episode of Racer TV on youtube features what might be the BMW of my dreams.

WARNING!!! WARNING!!! WARNING!!! WARNING!!! WARNING!!! WARNING!!! WARNING!!! WARNING!!! WARNING!!! WARNING!!! WARNING!!! WARNING!!! WARNING!!! WARNING!!! WARNING!!! WARNING!!! WARNING!!! WARNING!!! WARNING!!! WARNING!!! WARNING!!! WARNING!!! WARNING!!! WARNING!!! WARNING!!! WARNING!!! WARNING!!! WARNING!!! WARNING!!! WARNING!!! WARNING!!! WARNING!!! WARNING!!! WARNING!!! WARNING!!!

THE FOLLOWING VIDEO IS RIFE WITH EXPLICIT MOTORCYCLE PORN.
THE FOLLOWING VIDEO IS RIFE WITH EXPLICIT MOTORCYCLE PORN.
THE FOLLOWING VIDEO IS RIFE WITH EXPLICIT MOTORCYCLE PORN.

WARNING!!! WARNING!!! WARNING!!! WARNING!!! WARNING!!! WARNING!!! WARNING!!! WARNING!!! WARNING!!! WARNING!!! WARNING!!! WARNING!!! WARNING!!! WARNING!!! WARNING!!! WARNING!!! WARNING!!! WARNING!!! WARNING!!! WARNING!!! WARNING!!! WARNING!!! WARNING!!! WARNING!!! WARNING!!! WARNING!!! WARNING!!! WARNING!!! WARNING!!! WARNING!!! WARNING!!! WARNING!!! WARNING!!! WARNING!!! WARNING!!!

Can't say I didn't warn you...
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Re: If you're gonna go retro...
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Go retro! I just added a new stablemate to my beloved '06 Vespa GT 200-a 1974 BMW R75/6.

Always wanted an airhead, and after patiently scouring Craigslist for nearly a decade, found "the one."

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Well that brought back a flood of nostalgia. My Dad had that very bike from 76-84. Got my first rides on the back of it. Funny thing is that when I bought my first scooter he told me that had wanted to buy a Vespa in the early 70's but the lack of any local dealers drove him to buy a small Honda instead.
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Honda Bulldog: I really like that design! The idea of 93mpg, storage and a design that means it doesn't matter too much if it falls over is great for me. I assume it would have pretty long service intervals as well. I'm just a bit worried that I might be too big for it at 6'3".

BMW R75: I've always wanted an R60 with a single seat (with springs).
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Its kinda like a motorcycle version of the Big Ruckus... Boy do I ever wish they would produce something like that again!

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I've got my money waiting on the Honda Bulldog. The latest article I've found states that it's getting closer to production. Maybe we will see it here in 2016. Hope so, I want one.


Article > http://www.motorbiketimes.com/news/bike-types/concept-bikes/honda-bulldog-readying-for-production-$21385865.htm
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Its kinda like a motorcycle version of the Big Ruckus... Boy do I ever wish they would produce something like that again!

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It looks like the Bulldog is going into production >> http://www.visordown.com/motorcycle-news-new-bikes/hondas-bulldog-concept-headed-for-production/28291.html
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cabbell, the BMW airheads are great bikes. I had a 750/5, 750/6 and a 750/ 7. The ultimate touring bike back in the day, although the Gold wing was right up there too. The perfect scoot for someone who did NOT want to tinker. Reliable as a rock bridge and smooth as silk on the high way. Good times.
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cabbell, the BMW airheads are great bikes. I had a 750/5, 750/6 and a 750/ 7. The ultimate touring bike back in the day, although the Gold wing was right up there too. The perfect scoot for someone who did NOT want to tinker. Reliable as a rock bridge and smooth as silk on the high way. Good times.
I really can't believe how sweetly it rides for a 40 year old bike with 39,000 miles. The boxer motor at speed is spectacular; it pulls hard and sounds oh so delicious. There's something simultaneously funny, delightful and threatening about having the cylinder heads sticking out-and searingly hot-just inches in front of your feet and shins. "Cylinder heads! Get yer pipin' hot cylinder heads here!"

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The whole thing makes me smile.

If you want vintage joy, hard to go wrong with an airhead. I mean, will you look at that?
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Re: If you're gonna go retro...
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Go retro! I just added a new stablemate to my beloved '06 Vespa GT 200-a 1974 BMW R75/6.

Always wanted an airhead, and after patiently scouring Craigslist for nearly a decade, found "the one."

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I can't adequately describe the beauty of beholding her, the fun of tinkering, and the joy of riding her...right down to the characteristic left carb gas-dribble on your shifter toe.

After the necessary TLC (new rubber, stainless steel brake lines, fluid changes and some carb-tuning), she runs and handles breathtakingly well.

Horribly jealous here. That is an absolute beauty.
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SWM motorcycles of Italy.
It's all so confusing. Correct me if I'm wrong on this stuff but let me see if I've got this right. Husqvarna gets bought by BMW who sells it to KTM. KTM still owns it? But the SWM name was bought by the Chinese who now make them out of the old Husqvarna plant in Italy? From Chinese parts? Like I said, it's all so confusing...
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Its kinda like a motorcycle version of the Big Ruckus... Boy do I ever wish they would produce something like that again!

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D'oh! What I meant to say is that it looks like the love child of a Ruckus and a CBR...
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I thought I read that there's a big announcement from Triumph on Wednesday this week? I don't see why they'd want to go with water cooling and ruin the vintage looks with a big radiator. I don't think the RnineT has water cooling.
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Re: If you're gonna go retro...
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Go retro! I just added a new stablemate to my beloved '06 Vespa GT 200-a 1974 BMW R75/6.

Always wanted an airhead, and after patiently scouring Craigslist for nearly a decade, found "the one."

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I can't adequately describe the beauty of beholding her, the fun of tinkering, and the joy of riding her...right down to the characteristic left carb gas-dribble on your shifter toe.

After the necessary TLC (new rubber, stainless steel brake lines, fluid changes and some carb-tuning), she runs and handles breathtakingly well.

Plus there's just something about riding a machine with similar patina to your own. Reminds you of who you are, when you came from, and how far you've come.

And they look like siblings...

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You have a beautiful 'air-head!' Looks very original and will provide years of riding enjoyment.

The carb dribble is the float sticking. I owned two air-heads for about 250k miles. Fun to work on and plenty of info out there, especially from the BMWOA, IBMWR's, and The Air-Heads group.

You have a motorcycle you can keep and ride forever!
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Upcoming announcements:

28 October: Triumph's updated Bonneville.

16 November: Ducati's probable announcement of a 400cc version of its Scrambler along with announcements of a number of other new bikes.

Motto Guzzi is rumoured to be working on a more powerful version of the V7 II series, perhaps for announcement at the Milan Motorcycle Show starting 19 November.

Triumph teaser video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=phAsCh9l2Tg

I'd like to see Triumph announce a bike that will compete directly with the Ducati Scrambler and Motto Guzzi V7 II, but the rumour is that it will in fact announce a more powerful Bonneville. Anyway, we'll know day after tomorrow.
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Upcoming announcements:

28 October: Triumph's updated Bonneville.

16 November: Ducati's probable announcement of a 400cc version of its Scrambler along with announcements of a number of other new bikes.

Motto Guzzi is rumoured to be working on a more powerful version of the V7 II series, perhaps for announcement at the Milan Motorcycle Show starting 19 November.

Triumph teaser video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=phAsCh9l2Tg

I'd like to see Triumph announce a bike that will compete directly with the Ducati Scrambler and Motto Guzzi V7 II, but the rumour is that it will in fact announce a more powerful Bonneville. Anyway, we'll know day after tomorrow.
The 400cc Ducati scrambler is pretty exiting. Supposedly it'll be priced comparatively to the smaller water cooled Harley Davidsons produced in India. Unveiling is Nov 16.
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The 400cc Ducati scrambler is pretty exiting. Supposedly it'll be priced comparatively to the smaller water cooled Harley Davidsons produced in India. Unveiling is Nov 16.
I agree. It will make the bike available to young riders who are subject to graduated licensing, and may be interesting to urban riders generally if the bike is a bit less temperamental at low speeds.

If Moto Guzzi comes out with a ~60-65 bhp bike as part of the V7 II series, it would dramatically expand the market for those bikes.

Not sure I understand where Triumph is going if it comes out with a more powerful Bonneville, and in the process ignores the competition from Ducati and Moto Guzzi. That said, it isn't clear what are the implications of Wednesday's Bonneville announcement for the Thruxton and Scrambler.
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While the official announcement is tomorrow, the cat is out of the bag on Triumph's new bikes. See this advrider thread and the links: http://advrider.com/index.php?threads/2016-thruxton.1102246/
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This post doesn't seem to be showing up, so at the risk of a repost:

While the official announcement is tomorrow, the cat is out of the bag on Triumph's new bikes. See this advrider thread and the links: http://advrider.com/index.php?threads/2016-thruxton.1102246/
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New Triumph Bonneville range launched today, pics and details on their website.

Does not really give much to a retro fan, but I can see their attraction to "normal bikers" - more power, more modern bikes. Personally, if I leaned a bit towards Bonnie earlier, now Guzzi's V7 wins, if I'll decide to swings back to bigwheelers.
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Are you talking about the Street 500? Personally, I'd prefer they bring back The Sprint/Aermacchi 250. Seriously.
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New Triumph Bonneville range launched today, pics and details on their website.

Does not really give much to a retro fan, but I can see their attraction to "normal bikers" - more power, more modern bikes. Personally, if I leaned a bit towards Bonnie earlier, now Guzzi's V7 wins, if I'll decide to swings back to bigwheelers.
Me too! The V7II (or even a 2014/15 V7) tops my list of smaller displacement retro motorcycles currently but that could be toppled by the rumored Ducati Scrambler 400cc.
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While the official announcement is tomorrow, the cat is out of the bag on Triumph's new bikes. See this advrider thread and the links:
http://advrider.com/index.php?threads/2016-thruxton.1102246/

I bet the OP is glad that he started this thread since it's obvious that Triumph has been monitoring it to coincide with the release of a new retro motorcycle.

BTW, I recently reconnected with an old scooter pal locally who said he was hoping to get a Scomadi. What happened to those?
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I bet the OP is glad that he started this thread since it's obvious that Triumph has been monitoring it to coincide with the release of a new retro motorcycle.
Retro? it's all new technology with ABS and fly by wire throttle. I liked old Triumph Bonneville Black as it did everything I need and looked quite cool while doing it. These new models have more power than I'll ever need and not having a fairing means that no-one would be able to use that power. Sadly the cost will go up to. They seem to have built the bikes to compete with the RnineT but haven't really looked at what their customer base want. Just my 2c.
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Retro? it's all new technology with ABS and fly by wire throttle. I liked old Triumph Bonneville Black as it did everything I need and looked quite cool while doing it.
Retro, indeed. I mean, it's not like they are announcing a new version of the Speed Triple. I think this article posted today from Cycle world says it best:

The Meriden Cooperative went bankrupt in 1983, and successful real estate entrepreneur John Bloor bought the rights to the Triumph name from the courts.

But he and his team wanted almost nothing to do with the old Triumph, which represented to them all that was wrong with British industry: antiquated technology, under­investment, mismanagement, and perpetual labor wars. The new motorcycles that Bloor's Triumph was to develop were very Japanese in design (some of the first products were 1,000 and 1,200cc DOHC fours) and included gearboxes and other components sourced directly from Japanese suppliers. The new Triumph Motorcycles made little attempt to secure historic bikes from the old Triumph: They were so much rubbish, better to be forgotten as quickly as possible.

But a funny thing happened over the years. New Triumph succeeded when it built machines that were more like those of the Old Triumph. The big fours went out of production, but the Triple grew into the Speed Triple and the Daytona, harking back to the 1970 Triumph Trident. The Japanese-clone 600cc four faded almost before it was released, but the 675 triple has sold well. And the 790cc and 865cc "heritage" twins, the Bonneville and Thruxton and others, have been extremely well received, so well that they're approaching 50 percent of the Triumphs sold in the United States.

http://www.cycleworld.com/2015/10/27/2016-triumph-bonneville-thruxton-and-thruxton-r-motorcycle-review-first-look-photos/
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These new models have more power than I'll ever need and not having a fairing means that no-one would be able to use that power. Sadly the cost will go up to. They seem to have built the bikes to compete with the RnineT but haven't really looked at what their customer base want. Just my 2c.
But I agree with just about everything else you said. Interestingly, I recently read that BMW has been playing close attention to the customization that folks have been doing with the RnineT. It's looking like they want a piece of the kind of in-house customization that is offered by other retro brands like Mini, Triumph, Moto Guzzi, Vespa, etc in that they are considering offering a budget version of the RnineT along with various BMW made kits and bits. Yamaha is rumored to be gearing up to do the same with the SR400.

The increasingly restrictive licensing laws in other countries also appears to be pushing the market towards smaller displacement offerings beyond scooters. While Triumph appears to have shelved their sub 500 cc project, BMW is rumored to still be working on theirs. It may not be retro yet but if Ducati really does have success with a rumored 400cc Scrambler then things could change in the direction that we both seem to favor. Just my dos Centavos...
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I agree. Their method of designing bikes in a modular way was quite new at the time. I rode one of the first 1200's (a Trophy I think it was) but found it quite characterless even though it was a good bike. The bikes they have been recently also matched pretty much what customers wanted and could afford. These new models seem to be aiming at something else entirely. I just worry that higher prices and moving away from what made them popular (just being real world bikes) is a bad move. I used to own a large capacity naked bike and, in all honesty, it was a pretty pointless bike - it drank fuel and it weighed a tonne but I'll admit it was quite eye catching. I guess I'd of just preferred it if they made the current version more economical and made it so it just shrugged off grime. I guess my current favourite bike is that Honda Bulldog if they make one in my size but a 2nd hand Bonneville Black would be nice.
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I agree. Their method of designing bikes in a modular way was quite new at the time.
Yeah, Moto Guzzi, BMW, and Yamaha are now doing the same thing.
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I rode one of the first 1200's (a Trophy I think it was) but found it quite characterless even though it was a good bike. The bikes they have been recently also matched pretty much what customers wanted and could afford. These new models seem to be aiming at something else entirely. I just worry that higher prices and moving away from what made them popular (just being real world bikes) is a bad move.
It is interesting that they shelved the smaller displacement project. There's a brand new Norton sitting on the showroom floor of our local GP Motorcycles. It's got a sticker price of over $20,000.00. Maybe Triumph wants to compete with that market and maybe the RnineT crowd.
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I used to own a large capacity naked bike and, in all honesty, it was a pretty pointless bike - it drank fuel and it weighed a tonne but I'll admit it was quite eye catching. I guess I'd of just preferred it if they made the current version more economical and made it so it just shrugged off grime. I guess my current favourite bike is that Honda Bulldog if they make one in my size but a 2nd hand Bonneville Black would be nice.
I'm coming around to the Bulldog but I'd be happy with a used Bonnie Black as well.

My pal who loves his little Yamaha TW200 just sent me this. I guess he's more of an enabler than a pal...
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The TW200 is a great bike even in standard trim, shame it only comes up to my knee caps plus they don't sell it here in the UK. I was working out in Geneva for a while and saw a lot of them about and was actually quite tempted at the time.
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Very enjoyable thread, thanks for posting it. I too share the sentiments of those who don't need or want a big motor. Long ago I started on small 2T dirt bikes working my way up to Yamaha's TY250 Trials and their beast called the SC500 - a 2 stroke 500cc single cylinder 234lb ankle breaker if you didn't kick ALL the way through hard enough when starting.

So I have a soft spot for old small motor street bikes and wanted to share pics of this beauty, which I don't know much about, but consider it right up there as personal cycle porn

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Please tell me more about it if you have any info. Haggerty shows the '69 Benelli El Diablo 5 speed 250 is valued at $4000 in this condition(concours), but that somehow seems low to me. I guess I am biased though.

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Sorry I have nothing to contribute re any new 'retro' offerings and this is a bit OT, but I wonder how this one would fare if available new today w/ a few modern upgrades? Are you listening, Piaggio?
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I just added this to my stable.
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^^^ Congrats, that's a classic beauty in apparently excellent shape.

I cannot tell a lie, If I was gonna go BIG, that's just what I'd want. I'd lose the plastic saddle bags though, but that's only personal preference
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^^^ Congrats, that's a classic beauty in apparently excellent shape.

I cannot tell a lie, If I was gonna go BIG, that's just what I'd want. I'd lose the plastic saddle bags though, but that's only personal preference
The bags come off quickly for a lean look 8)
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