FlandersWasp wrote:
Let's look at this from another - legal - angle. The fact that those non-AdBlue diesels were poluting much more than legally allowed is a VW design problem. They could not fix that, so they exploited the silly tests, implemented by the various government agencies, apparently all over the world (over 11,000,000 VW diesels by now!). What they did was illegal. No question! Suits and big fines are due.
Now, the reason why those diesels were actually approved for the californian roads and in other countries, is, IMHO, the full resposibility of the authorities that implemented the flawed tests. Those cars should neither pass our Euro 6 tests, but did. They should test whether a car's emissions is within legal limits. We can safely assume we're talking about emissions when a car drives (that's the purpose of a car, driving). Obviously, the EPA, and many other countries' agencies do not measure how much a driving car pollutes. It's not that hard: stick the sensors on the exhaust, take along the equipment, drive and measure, say at various speeds and temps on a test track. Alas, they had to be informed by a third party, CARB, and even they by coincidence, that those cars are big polluters. They did not do their job. We can safely assume that many cars of many brands will not meet the standards if tested properly, all over the world.
Now, if I want clean air in my city, I presume my gov does proper tests before approving cars. I always found it pretty silly not to test such an imortant issue on a car while actually driving. Don't misunderstand, I condemn VW but it's like printing false money and the bank putting it into circulation without checking the notes properly. VW has cheated for years, but the agencies have failed for decades. God knows how much pollution they accepted in the past. Since the competitors of VW are shrouded in silence and refrain from comments (how weird) I believe all agencies should urgently re-think their car emissions test. If they don't, I'd find that pretty suspicous...
look, all previously written from your side sound like you are somehow supprting VW in what they did
sorry, everybody else invested billions in development of next gen engines, only VW/Audi though that they could play with the design of LED lights endlessly and sell it as new technology
well, now they will eat the mud they dug themselfs into!
the only problem I see is that all these people who bought their products were betrayed, all those workers in VW which will loose the job are not guilty for decisions that their managers make and all the people in supporting industry will suffer as well
but there is no forgetting to VW as brand what they have done! was not mistake, was intentional!
and they should pay for it dearly!