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Time for Piaggio to up their game.
http://www.scooterfile.com/oems/quadro/meet-quadro/
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power/weight
All that hardware and only 350cc!!!

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Hello

to choose, I prefer a Quad " in the category, any land or any road "
the Quad, seems much more effective than this thing.
Laughing emoticon just for tires, I laugh ! after for the rest , the motor , the dampers , The engine choice I laugh much more ROFL emoticon
but it is true it is very nice to the look
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The wheels stay parallel to the centre plane of the vehicle so it is conceptually the same as the MP3. More rear end grip would certainly be good if there was enough power to take advantage of it. But two rear wheels either mean a differential is required or some other compromise such as a freewheel on each.
Scooters are all about sacrificing ultimate handling and performance for every day practicality and I reckon the MP3 adds some more usability but pushes the boundary of design complexity just to the edge of what is realistic and affordable.
Designs such as the Quadro are fine as toys for the wealthy but I can't see them succeeding in the mass market.
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But two rear wheels either mean a differential is required or some other compromise such as a freewheel on each.
Their rear drive look this.
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to choose, I prefer a Quad " in the category, any land or any road "
the Quad, seems much more effective than this thing.
Can your Quad or MP3 do this?
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maybe if that were to come in a 5 or 600 with a decent HP rating, it could potentially be fun to ride? the video is kind of cool showing how stable it is. I have seen that in person and if i am not mistaken, the 350 only has about 28HP or so. and carrying around 567lbs, that 28hp or so is not going very far. cool concept, but they need to step up the engine game.
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loulouclub wrote:
to choose, I prefer a Quad " in the category, any land or any road "
the Quad, seems much more effective than this thing.
Can your Quad or MP3 do this?
Hi Maynard Schweigert

yes I know this video and I agree with you on the asphalt road there seems good, but I think in version 4/4. in clear, to ride in the fields, in forests sincerely I believe that he must be inefficient.
I'm not saying it's a bad machine, I said she should remain in its field, "the road ".
and I find it still very nice for the look .

loulou. =)
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But two rear wheels either mean a differential is required or some other compromise such as a freewheel on each.
Their rear drive look this.
Its when you start to look at the impractical detail that you realize its just a toy.
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Well Quadro did testdrive with the 4wheel version in Afrika also thru the dessert but that one was a 450cc pre-production model

there are some vids around on Youtube of it seen them
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Well Quadro did testdrive with the 4wheel version in Afrika also thru the dessert but that one was a 450cc pre-production model

there are some vids around on Youtube of it seen them
Its ability for holding a lean in a static position (1:55) as well as a dual belt drive.
Still looking for the Africa video. Did find the one for Norway.
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Should we be concerned that the drive belts are so close to the muffler?
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Should we be concerned that the drive belts are so close to the muffler?
No. There's enough air gap to keep the heat away from the belts. Also, look at dirt bikes, with their mufflers tucked up under the rear plastics, even more closely than this is.
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Quadro has presented a new concept bike (based on the Quadro4) at Salon Milan - BigQ. What is really interesting with BigQ is the 630cc engine it is equipped with. If this engine finds the way into the "regular" Quadro4 (currently sold in Europe with a 350cc engine only) this may become a very interesting bike indeed!

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kind of sucks they only stuck with the 350cc motor. looks like it has a lot of potential, but the 28hp and all that weight really hold it back. the build quality of those are not that great though. my local dealer has a few different quadro models, and they aren't really anything special IMHO. the build quality of the MP3 is nothing to write home about, but the quadro is even worse.
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Now that is a 4-season scooter I can live with.
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kind of sucks they only stuck with the 350cc motor. looks like it has a lot of potential, but the 28hp and all that weight really hold it back. the build quality of those are not that great though. my local dealer has a few different quadro models, and they aren't really anything special IMHO. the build quality of the MP3 is nothing to write home about, but the quadro is even worse.
That is why the 630cc engine in the Big Q concept is so interesting - I hope it will find way into the rest of the Quadro scoots.

I agree about the production quality, I've tested the 350S and the Peugeot Metropolis and I still find that the MP3 has the best experienced build quality. Furthermore, the fourwheeler (Quadro4 with 350cc engine) is 30% more expensive than MP3 500 LT at my market and has half the service intervall (5000 km compared to 10000 km for MP3) - but there is still something with that bike that attracts me. I will at least have to take a test ride when spring arrives...
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it has the engine of the myroad 700i
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I suppose if you don't mind higher maintenance(more tires, belts, etc.), lower mpg due to more drag on the motor, drive train than without all the added parts vs. a MP3....................
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I suppose if you don't mind higher maintenance(more tires, belts, etc.), lower mpg due to more drag on the motor, drive train than without all the added parts vs. a MP3....................
To each their own! 8)
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it has the engine of the myroad 700i
Hmmm, 630 cc was mentioned in the text I read - but it gave no more details. But continuing use of the Kymco engines (the 350cc in other Quadro scoots is also Kymco IIRC) would not surprise me.

Do you have any more info on the bike, Maksor? Or on the 700cc Kymco engine? Google says 59hp at 7250rpm... And according to a couple of articles on the web the engine seems to cope well with the 275kg/610 pounds Myroad 700i. Quadro4 with 350cc engine weights 245kg/540 pounds.
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> higher maintenance ... lower mpg due to more drag ... added parts

Except for the drivetrain, all of that describes the drawbacks of an MP3 compared to a 2-wheeler.
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Now that is a 4-season scooter I can live with.
HI Maynard Schweigert

thank you for the video in french , I laughed a lot!
because the 4/4 all the way. has been nicknamed the "BIG Q" .
and can be translated into French as the "fat ass" . ROFL emoticon
" of course, I'm not making fun of you. it's just that the video is funny for me . "
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The 350 engine is nice since my 250 barely makes it for me. If it won't take me weeks just to get a simple part, then it's a good contender!
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thank you for the video in french , I laughed a lot!
because the 4/4 all the way. has been nicknamed the "BIG Q" .
and can be translated into French as the "fat ass" . ROFL emoticon
" of course, I'm not making fun of you. it's just that the video is funny for me . "
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I can identify with that. Laughing emoticon Laughing emoticon
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Maynard Schweigert wrote:
loulouclub wrote:
thank you for the video in french , I laughed a lot!
because the 4/4 all the way. has been nicknamed the "BIG Q" .
and can be translated into French as the "fat ass" . ROFL emoticon
" of course, I'm not making fun of you. it's just that the video is funny for me . "
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I can identify with that. Laughing emoticon Laughing emoticon
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