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Could I suggest that the Burgman rider couldn't actually ride ?

I believe he blamed the "wind" for his accident.

49 Other riders went around that corner, many of them lighter than the Suzuki in question ?

Discuss.

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Randy is more than capable of riding, sir. He completed a SS1000 en-route to the starting line as a warm-up. He's resurrecting that bike and makes due with a Burgie 400 in the interim.

It's a bit gauche to diss him on a public forum over a bout of crap luck.
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If you are considering the CBR there is one thing to consider. To quote Jess "Your scooter is disposable"
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It wasn't really a diss a such, just an observation.

I met the guy and he's a really nice fella and I don't doubt his riding ability in straight line but if you overcooked the corner you've overcooked the corner.

It wasn't windy enough to blow a big bike that that off course. I know because I was there on the same corner within an hour of his accident riding something smaller and lighter.

We all make mistakes, including me.

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It wasn't really a diss a such, just an observation.

I met the guy and he's a really nice fella and I don't doubt his riding ability in straight line but if you overcooked the corner you've overcooked the corner.

It wasn't windy enough to blow a big bike that that off course. I know because I was there on the same corner within an hour of his accident riding something smaller and lighter.

We all make mistakes, including me.

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I don't know about no wind, but bears....now that can be a real problem in the turns.
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I hope we can keep this thread from getting locked. He went down...I wasn't there...I don't have a clue what happened so I'll take his word for it.

In 2012 I seized my motor at about 60 mph, asploded a clutch, and I can remember hitting one curve in Joshua Tree too hot. I stayed upright...but not by a lot!

The only point I was trying to make is that the CBR requires scooters, and riders to do things they weren't designed for. And on a long ride...sometimes shit just happens!
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Day 1 & 2 were released and then nothing. Oh the suspense. Scooter emoticon Scooter emoticon
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You see, I'm not getting a good feeling about this.

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It is going to be fine.
I believe the delays are in finalizing the route and finding hotels.
It shouldn't take much longer.
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Sure hope to make this one. A lot of planning needs to be done. A cross country trip has been on my mind and preparation will make the winter pass a lot faster. Ride the CB out and play tourist on the way home.
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Those Scarabeo 150's are fast Mr Driller.
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Those Scarabeo 150's are fast Mr Driller.
Mr. Driller called me yesterday to talk Cannonball.

When he told me about the handicap and speed of the Scarabeo 150, I told him that he had a winner on his hands.

Good maintenance and GPS skills, along with a drive to ride as fast as reasonable all day should leave him with a high finishing position.

102 vs 113 handicap for Razzo gives him an extra 35 to 40 minutes to finish each day. Wow!
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There goes the market on 150 Scarabeo's. LOL
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There goes the market on 150 Scarabeo's. LOL
Maybe but given a choice I'd be looking at a Scarabeo 200. Damn those are fast with the same engine as the Vespa GT 200 but bigger wheels which should make it handle well on those adventure sections of the cannonball.
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The Beo 200 is only a 180cc motor and I don't think it's related to the GT other than being made by Piaggio. The Piaggio BV200 is more like the twin to the GT. Either scoot would be awesome. How is a person to decide?
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I ran the dirt sections on my stock GT, running Michelin street tires, Power Pure rear and City Grip front, with no problems. GT's are great for the Cannonball. No need to have bigger wheels or off road tires.
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Mr. Driller called me yesterday to talk Cannonball.

When he told me about the handicap and speed of the Scarabeo 150, I told him that he had a winner on his hands.

Good maintenance and GPS skills, along with a drive to ride as fast as reasonable all day should leave him with a high finishing position.

102 vs 113 handicap for Razzo gives him an extra 35 to 40 minutes to finish each day. Wow!
Did you and Mr. Driller discuss what would happen if he needs a starter or stator or clutch or voltage regulator or throttle cable or tire or just about any part during the Cannonball?
The Rotax motor is very well engineered and makes a lot more power than anything of similar displacement made by Piaggio. But it's still made in Italy, and there are a lot of very basic and simple parts that could fail and leave the rider stranded.
And again, not to belabor a point, but the scooters that finished 2 and 3 in 2014 both had fairly high handicaps, compared to a lot of bikes they beat. There's a lot more to placing high in the event than having a low handicap.
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I am certain the forecast will be for HOT. The last time I passed through Lebanon, Tn on the way home from a rally in St. Louis, the thermometer on the Majesty indicated 104. Wha? emoticon Wicked hot! That was mid June.
Our opening day through Georgia and South Carolina can be a test as well.
I hope the motels we stay in have pools. Swim trunks will definitely be in my bag.
Besides the usual strategies to survive the heat, has anyone had luck with the so called "cooling" vests and other clothing designed to keep you from being sauteed in your riding gear?
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A 'Beo 150 would be a great choice. You can likely find one at a good price, and then hit up AF1 for a bunch of spares.

I'll be sidelined again due to work and finances, but can't wait to live vicariously via postings and blogs.

Someday...someday
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A Word of Caution...
Don't invest to much into the Scooter Cannonball until your entry has been accepted. Not everyone gets in.
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Not to worry. I too believe in "plan B".
Since the biggest hurdle of comitting a month to riding cross country has been cleared, riding the big ride is pretty certain; be it in the CB or on my own.
Certainly the field will be limited due to logistics and some will have preference. If I don't make the cut so be it. There is a lot I want to see from the saddle of my scoot regardless.
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I heard it was because you found the golden ticket in a Wonka Bar.
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Besides the usual strategies to survive the heat, has anyone had luck with the so called "cooling" vests and other clothing designed to keep you from being sauteed in your riding gear?
I have a Joe Rocket Evaporative Vest and my experience has been that they work very well under a mesh jacket. If it's really hot, it's a good idea to take off your long sleeve tee shirt, soak it in water, soak the evaporative vest in water, get dressed fast, and hit the road. Ideally, there is a lot of water streaming off you because you didn't wring them out before putting them on. It's good for about a tank of gas if you're riding as fast as you possibly can. If it's really hot, stick the teeshirt and vest in a plastic bag, go to the coke machine at the gas station and put in enough ice so you get dirty looks but not thrown out, add water, and let it soak while you fill up the bike and take care of business. You will find putting them back on to be a bit invigorating.
In extremely hot riding conditions, gatorade is your friend, and you should chug down a liter or two, and do everything else you need to before you put on the teeshirt and vest at every gas stop.
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So, some people won the Wonka Bar? Motovista has the fast vest. I think Motovista will win! You people who ate the Wonka Bars will be peeing out of yer, butts? Motovista will be flying past in his Rocket Ship Vest! (?*:・゚✧



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And day six. More than halfway there!
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And maybe big scooters are allowed? Laughing emoticon
I was getting all doubtful, but if I can take my MP3 500 it becomes much more likely I can join.... Interesting discussion about the handicap system, too.
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I should be right at 100% handicap under the old system. An extra 5% for vintage? Awwww I had to try!
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I should be right at 100% handicap under the old system. An extra 5% for vintage? Awwww I had to try!
Which scooter will you be riding?
The handicap system is based on only two items, scooter age and displacement. If you are on true vintage, the bonus handicap is already built in.

We need more vintage scooters participating. I would be tempted to take my Lambretta, but at 42 mph max and no reliability, the days would be long until it broke, if it made it one day.
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I should be right at 100% handicap under the old system. An extra 5% for vintage? Awwww I had to try!
Which scooter will you be riding?
The handicap system is based on only two items, scooter age and displacement. If you are on true vintage, the bonus handicap is already built in.

We need more vintage scooters participating. I would be tempted to take my Lambretta, but at 42 mph max and no reliability, the days would be long until it broke, if it made it one day.
Oh I know...but doesn't everyone try to come up with an excuse for a better handicap!

Usually the vintage idiots get their own little side competitions going!

Unless I can get the 64 GL put back together it will be the same frame as 2012 67 GT (Amerivespa 2015 Best Rat Bike!). New motor. 79 P200 stroked to 225 cc. I built it as a touring motor with a ton of torque for climbing and geared for cruising.

Right now I need to put the fork and fully hydraulic disc that I have for the GL into the GT. Probably change out the headset as I have a MC mount already welded to a trap headset.

If I could get my 65 TV175 in shape I would love to rock that! I'm also tempted to ride the 64 GS...but it's just too nice a scooter to tear up on the CBR.
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Day 2 looks like great fun! Tail of the Dragon - Just hope there aren't any other large groups there that day.

Day 3 with a ride through Land between the Lakes region - be prepared for great wild life viewing, eagles and numerous other birds of prey and even some elk and bison.
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A 'Beo 150 would be a great choice. You can likely find one at a good price, and then hit up AF1 for a bunch of spares.

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You can have every Aprilia dealer in the US on speeddial and you're not going to get a lot of very simple things if they break. Break a Honda, Suzuki or Yamaha, and because of the way many of their dealers link parts inventories on lightspeed, you can make a few calls and someone at one dealership will tell you who to call at another dealership to get it. As far as a Piaggio powered unit, there are at least three of us in this forum who could ship you a complete engine overnight if that's what was needed. And as far as "a bunch of spares," you might want to price out Aprilia Rotax parts, especially things like variators, clutches, clutch bells, and just about everything electrical or electronic. If you knew the bike was going to run the entire trip with no mechanical issues, a rotax scarabeo would be an excellent choice, because they are fast, small and handle beautifully. If that's the style of bike you are determined to ride, the Honda SH150 is widely regarded as an extremely reliable bike and the odds are better that it will be running at the end of the event. In the Cannonball, a lot of very unpredictable things break. There is a lot more to picking a Cannonball bike than a low handicap and high top speed.
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You would also have to find 3700 miles to travel....

That would be what, London to Moscow and back?

Maybe London to Palermo Italy and back?
If you make it from London to Moscow, it doesn't guarantee that you can make it back. It's Moscow after all 8)
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