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We were finally hit by COVID a couple of weeks ago, so I spent some time living in the basement.

I found a show that dates back a little over a decade called "Warehouse-13". Is it good? Not particularly. Could you drive a truck through the plot holes? Very likely. Am I on season 4? You bet!

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Paul Verhoeven, the director, grew up in the Netherlands during the Nazi occupation. He purposely made the movie as a satire/parody of Nazi propaganda films. From what I've read, his intentions weren't initially clear when it first came out, but now are much more apparent.
Verhoeven directed an interesting motorcycle themed movie called Spetters. I'm not sure why, but forty years later, I still remember it quite well.
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The Rookie on netflix, Young man goes to work for the CIA, has no idea what he is getting into. Dragged Across Concrete with Mel Gibson on Netflix
Two cops on unpaid leave get "creative ideas" to get some instant cash
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Winnie the Pooh: Blood and Honey

I'll let IMDB describe it:

After Christopher Robin abandons them for college, Pooh and Piglet embark on a bloody rampage as they search for a new source of food.

"Pooh, you've got to help me. Something's wrong with Piglet, he killed my wife!"
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As I share a name with Pooh's original author, I tend to casually keep tabs on what happens with the silly ol' bear.

I... I don't really know what to make of this. I did wonder when things would get interesting, given the recent copyright expiration. Guess I have my answer there!
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movie : Trial of the Chicago 7.

History lesson for my teen.

O.S.
Great movie, and a band mate's son is on screen for roughly 7 seconds with a fiddle on stage at the rally in the park scene. He was at a party playing music with friends, someone said "want to be in a movie in a music scene", he thought it was for some college project but the next morning the guy who asked called and said "the producer, Aaron Sorkin, wants to meet you over breakfast". They even paid for his screen actor guild membership since he was performing in the movie.

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Just finished Daisy Jones and the Six on Amazon Prime (great...being in a band may influence my review, though) and I am currently watching Master of None on Netflix, which took an episode to get into but man is it funny.

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Extrapolations, on Apple TV, deals with the effects of climate change and is a very interesting take on the future.
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The 2022 Christmas Special was excellent...!

The Dectorists is superb! Great show.
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I just started watching Guilt on BBC iplayer. I love the actor Mark Bonnar, he was in the series called Shetland.
There are if I am not mistaken 2 seasons. I just started season 1. Should be good for the next 2-3 weeks. since there are 8 episodes per season.
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Naked, Alone and Racing to Get Home on Channel 4. I thought it was going to be a spoof series on Naked and Afraid, Alone and Amazing Race, but it's two pairs of brits running naked through the forest for a cash prize that works out to about $2000 each.
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We just finished watching Cunk on Earth.

It was fun seeing how the various interviewees responded to her. Some got with the spirit of the questions, some made earnest attempts to continue providing serious answers, and some were just nonplussed.
This was a hoot. Wish more of Cunk was available in the US. Truly enjoyed this.

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I'd heard good things about The Night Agent, so we started watching it Tuesday evening. Ended up binging the entire series (both seasons), and didn't get to bed until 3:30 am (which made getting to work at 7 am fun).

Next up was The Recruit. We were smarter about watching this one and went to bed at reasonable times Wednesday & Thursday. There was only one season of this, but will have a second season soon.

Both are on Netflix.

The Night Agent had good action, and was more realistic than most action series/movies we've seen (they'd run out of ammo, for example). It seems to be a good setup for a continuing series of either shows or movies.

The Recruit took longer for us to get into. It is more irreverent than most action/spy shows. but still held our interest.

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A house in our neighborhood has this sign in their front yard, walked by it many, many times times. It's a funny idea, riffing on those signs you see, but are they serious about this movie? Is it really good or are they just kidding? We are going to watch it tonight.
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Pretty good German show but the cheap Netflix voice dubbing is letting it down.
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We've been watching police body cam videos on YouTube for the past week. It's like watching raw video for Cops. The main channel we've been watching is Code Blue Cam. The vast majority of their videos are from the La Crosse, WI area. They do have a few videos from other states, and other areas of Wisconsin, though.

We know how people are, but it still astounds us that people will try to run to avoid a speeding ticket, and end up with multiple felony charges instead.
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An Australian show called "Mr. In-between". Super tight writing and acting, and lots of things I've never seen before. So many opportunities for the same old cliches and plots and they just NEVER go there. It's wonderful.And possibly that greatest final scene of all time!
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A couple months ago my wife and I had finished "Warehouse 13" and were looking for something else to waste our time. I found a show called "Haven" (2010-2015) on Freevee. It's based on a Stephen King book called "The Colorado Kid".

I watched the first episode and it showed some promise. Typical male lead / female lead trope, but the banter was pretty good, so we started watching it.

The first season was a little slow and left us with a whole bucket of questions. Then it picked up and got really interesting. But like any series / movie based on a short story (and I found out later VERY LOOSELY based) there were times that it would drag a little, but I continually found myself saying, "Wow. I didn't expect that."

CONS :

The male lead, Lucas Bryant, does a great job of impersonating a signed photo of Kent McCord from Adam 12. He displays a wide variety of emotions from "just awoke from a coma" to "standing with legs akimbo". The female lead, Emily Rose, is girl next door pretty and matches Bryant's acting with her impeccable impersonation of an Old Navy mannequin.

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To be fair, this is a small town in Maine, and their acting definitely reflects their characters more than their acting abilities. Later in the series Audrey (Emily) plays several characters with different personalities and pulls it off very well. Bryant mostly looks like Kent McCord.

The dialogue is a little too "explainy" for me, where they make unnecessary references to plot points in case the audience forgot about them.

PROS :

The show has kept me guessing, and the story line has taken a lot of turns that I did not see coming. At least one of the characters, Duke (played by Eric Balfour) is actually likeable and entertaining. He's definitely the Han Solo of the show and gets all the best lines.


So, we are in the fifth and final season. Everything is coming to a head, lots of questions have been answered. The whole story line revolves around the lost Roanoke colony and the word "CROATOAN" that was left at the site is actually the name of an interdimensional mad scientist / killer who had not to this point been revealed.

Last night we were watching one of the last four episodes. The town is in great peril, Croatoan has traveled across the dimensional portal into our world. The door opens and we see his silhouette outlined in the doorway. He steps through and it's ...

William. Freaking. Shatner.

Now, I love Bill Shatner. He's one of my favorite famous people ever. I can't tell you how much I enjoy watching him on screen. One of the pros I didn't mention was this show - aside from the cameo by Jason Priestly, which was actually pretty good - contains a lot of unknowns. It was easy to focus on the characters and not the actors. But when TJ Hooker stepped through the door I looked right at my wife and said, "I can no longer take this show seriously." Unfortunately now I am watching for people with red shirts and waiting for the scene when Croatoan is carried through town clinging to the hood of a car.

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I'll watch the last couple of episodes just for the resolution of the story, but it's lost a little cred at this point.
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The door opens and we see his silhouette outlined in the doorway. He steps through and it's ...

William. Freaking. Shatner.

Now, I love Bill Shatner. He's one of my favorite famous people ever. I can't tell you how much I enjoy watching him on screen. But when TJ Hooker stepped through the door I looked right at my wife and said, "I can no longer take this show seriously." Unfortunately, now I am watching for people with red shirts and waiting for the scene when Croatoan is carried through town clinging to the hood of a car.
I watched Haven years ago and had to struggle to remember what happened. That said, I think you hit the nail on the head with your very entertaining review.
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I have sort of burned out on both CNN and Fox News. Constant Bipolar Bickering over left vs right. On public broadcasting, I have been watching the BBC World News and DNN German world news out of Berlin. Even though they have a leaning left agenda, they really report well on world events that are missed or skipped over by US News outlets.

The only bummer, these two media outlets show first hand the crap condition much of the undeveloped third world is in. It is depressing seeing refugee camps and kids in Africa with flies crawling across their faces. What is uplifting is realizing actually how good we have it.

I am a baby boomer, so I watch a bunch of war movies on cable.

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Deadloch, released by Amazon.
It's a very funny cop show by the two Kates of Australian TV.. If you like snark and sarcasm, this is a show to watch.

Rush, on AU Channel 9, asks the question, what would happen if Channel 9 tried to copy the Amazing Race. It's like they decided to make the Amazing Race, then one of the lawyers said, "this is what you have to do if you don't want to be sued," and gave them some suggestions they got from watching other team reality series. Some of the changes are good, most of them were probably eliminated in meetings early on when they were planning The Amazing Race. There are teams of strangers competing, and the losing team has to eliminate one member after the checkpoint. The host, who won Australian survivor, seems like he got the job because he was willing to work for less than anyone with actual reality show hosting experience, and doesn't really connect with the audience or the contestants.
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Deadloch, released by Amazon.
It's a very funny cop show by the two Kates of Australian TV..
These Kates!
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCCGc8JKl5EvE8IjZ_qprNcQ

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I have sort of burned out on both CNN and Fox News. Constant Bipolar Bickering over left vs right. On public broadcasting, I have been watching the BBC World News and DNN German world news out of Berlin. Even though they have a leaning left agenda, they really report well on world events that are missed or skipped over by US News outlets.

I am a baby boomer, so I watch a bunch of war movies on cable.

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I take in a lot of news, both from US and international sources. There are a number of good news disseminating organizations in the United States, where the political leanings of the man or the dog in a man bites dog story don't really matter to the story, or the dog.
It seems like you are looking for a news organization that focuses on news stories that someone who is politically right of center would want to follow. Bloomberg is excellent for market reports and politics. Forbes and Business Insider are both good for deep dive sort of long form, magazine style reporting on things that interest someone with a right of center perspective. CNN and MSNBC are both excellent at getting out the story first, though sometimes CNN errs on the side of speed over accuracy. Then there's the NYT, WP, and ABC, CBS and NBC. All of them have legitimate news divisions that try to get out the news as accurately as possible, the traditional, "this happened, here's where it happened, how it happened, why it happened, who it happened to and when it happened." And they label their editorials as opinion pieces. The ability to tell what the difference between news and opinion means can seem like a lost art sometimes. Companies like The Babylon Bee, Fox News and The Onion are commonly referred to as parody news organizations, and their programing is designed to entertain and retain their viewers, and not to accurately inform them as to the day's events.

Have you seen "Apocalypse, The Second World War", from France? Excellent World War Two documentary in color.
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War Of The Worlds, the series. I'm always down for sci-fi, and we're digging its multinational vibe.

Berlin Station is deep spy intrigue and backstabbing. Being face-blind makes it hard for me to follow some of the characters, but I do my best.

The Tower is a cop show from the land of the Brits. We just finished Series 1 which was all about the thin blue line and when it should be crossed.

From, is a creepy, where the hell are we, and how do we get home alive show.

Other entertainments: Good Omens, The Rig, Jack Ryan, Outer Range, Baptiste, The Bay, The Devil's Hour, The Marvelous Mrs. Maisel, Hunters, Carnival Row, Night Sky, The Expanse, Reacher, Manifest, Detete, The Witcher, The Wheel of Time, Black Mirror...
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Except for the occasional streaming movie, we binge-watch the British Baking Show and it's spinoffs (An Extra Slice).

I sometimes end my TV watching evening with various YouTube videos.
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Thanks for the in depth analysis. Appreciate it. Total disclosure: I would be described as a conservative. I believe there is bias in all news outlets. Almost impossible to avoid with the nation being so polarized. Journalism seems to have become less balanced depending upon your world view. Note: I did not say depending on your politics.

Even the news outlets you describe as just reporting the what, where, and when facts can slant by what they don't report. When I am listening to reporting, I keep anticipating the reporter to offer. "By the way there is another side to this story". I really do not very often see this professional level of journalism occurring. The more important aspect is when the news outlet fails to report at all on a current event or subject of interest. It simply dies on editorial floor of the agency.

Hey, I am a big advocate of the free market place of ideas - good, bad, inaccurate, hateful, bring it on. I think we all wear big boy/girl pants and can filter out the incorrect or absurd.

My final thought: Left of center news outlets, in my opinion, do not view their world view bias reporting as political. They think it is fact or science.
When you offer a counter opinion, they think you are political or extreme and occasionally maintain you are spreading misinformation. It would be extremely difficult to graduate with a degree in Journalism in the last 30 years and not have a progressive bent. I just look for those few who remark, "you know there is possibly another side of this issue".

My Dad always told me to listen to both sides of a story. He said there is always some substantive stuff from both sides you could use. This level of common sense seems to be eroding in our polarized world.

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Star Trek:SNW captures the feel of the original series.
Silo was good, if a little divergent from the first book.
Reservation Dogs is entertaining.
I thought Ted Lasso's (probable) finale was well done.
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My final thought: Left of center news outlets, in my opinion, do not view their world view bias reporting as political. They think it is fact or science.
When you offer a counter opinion, they think you are political or extreme and occasionally maintain you are spreading misinformation. It would be extremely difficult to graduate with a degree in Journalism in the last 30 years and not have a progressive bent. I just look for those few who remark, "you know there is possibly another side of this issue".

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Okay, let's go back to the Man Bites Dog story.

If someone bites a dog, that's a fact. There might be witnesses, evidence, photos of the man taking a big bite of Labradoodle, etc. If you want to discuss the thoughts the dog might have had prior to the incident, that would be an opinion, and not a fact, and certainly not news, because, as you hopefully have figured out by now, people can't read dog minds.
If someone were to tell you the man bit the dog because he thought the dog didn't like Mondays, that would be what is commonly referred to as speculation, and not news. If the man says he bit the dog because the dog doesn't like Mondays, him saying that is a fact, but there is no way of knowing if the statement is true, because only the dog knows if he truly doesn't like Mondays. What you call the other side of the story is often speculation by someone who tells you what you want to hear. For example, if someone claiming to present the news tells you the man acquired the taste for Labradoodle because an entirely fictional former host of a reality tv show sold a line of frozen steaks that were 93% Labradoodle, that would also be an opinion, no matter how likely it seems that this is probably true. If a scientist, who went to Scientist School and got a degree in Labradoodle DNA testing, did a DNA test of those same frozen steaks and found they were indeed Labradoodle, then it becomes news.

And unfortunately, it probably isn't impossible today to graduate with a degree in Geography if you hold the view that the world is flat. That is what happens when you ignore the scientific method, which has taken us a long way since the Edwin Smith papyrus described how to diagnose illness in 1600 BC, give or take a few days, weeks, months, years, decades, centuries, etc. I wasn't there at the time, and if the calendar then was indeed dated 1600 BC, that would not have been scientific or a fact.

What you are describing has nothing to do with news, but with finding someone who will tell you how to feel about what happened.
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I swear you must have been a philosophy major - because, Man Bites Dog is a "thought experiment". A good way to examine and discuss things logically. I applaud you for it. I am not suggesting facts and the scientific method are not historically and world changing important. I am suggesting news reporting is not science and many times not factual.

Here is a thought experiment: If you studied the percentage of articles selected by an editor of a news agency by subject content, and found that 80% of them contained references to racism. And, in fact each article did factually relate a racist incident (Scientific Fact). Would this factually prove the USA is 80% racist or just reveal the bias in article selection by the news agencies editorial staff?

In a university philosophy class, this would result in arguments from different perspectives to be presented - not just because it makes you feel better as
you suggested in my waiting for news anchors to consider another point of view.

I truly appreciate your confidence in facts and the scientific method. I just suggest, it has very little to do with major news networks. So what can we believe, just listen to alternate ideas and make your own mind up. Be skeptical, reach out for alternatives. Now that is science.

That old fart Socrates introduced a method that did just that. Consider and argue the alternative - we have benefitted from that ever since.

Thanks for your thoughts.

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Bob Copeland wrote:
Here is a thought experiment: If you studied the percentage of articles selected by an editor of a news agency by subject content, and found that 80% of them contained references to racism. And, in fact each article did factually relate a racist incident (Scientific Fact). Would this factually prove the USA is 80% racist or just reveal the bias in article selection by the news agencies editorial staff?
There could also be a third proven fact: two out of ten journalists in that scenario might not have thought that the racism is newsworthy.
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