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Interesting review on the range of synthetic oils

OP Rank Bajin UTC details Hooked MP3 - 500 Joined: UTC Posts: 427 Location: Alabama, USA
OP Rank Bajin Hooked MP3 - 500 Joined: UTC Posts: 427 Location: Alabama, USA	UTC quote Found this review on another forum: https://www.pca.org/news/2015-11-02/synthetic-word-relates-motor-oil Must confess to it making my head spin, so if our oil gurus don't mind, does it give any clarity on what oil grade would be the best for our application?? Thanks

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Benelli Boy Ossessionato X10 350 Joined: UTC Posts: 2959 Location: London	UTC quote The one in the manual. It's a scooter, not a space rocket Positive

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Fritz Hooked 2009 MP3 400 Joined: UTC Posts: 472 Location: Loveland, Colorado	UTC quote Pretty interesting, but this is like counter steering, you can think too much. As long as the oil you use meets the requirements set by the manufacturer you'll be ok. Also NONE of these will work at all if they are not changed through regular maintenance. That's the key........ regular TLC

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OP Rank Bajin Hooked MP3 - 500 Joined: UTC Posts: 427 Location: Alabama, USA	UTC quote Benelli Boy wrote: The one in the manual. It's a scooter, not a space rocket HahaH...........Now that's funny

Madison Sully UTC details Veni, Vidi, Posti MP3 500, GTS 250 (both 2008 MY), 2013 Piaggio BV 350, 2014 Can Am Spyder RT Joined: UTC Posts: 7695 Location: Madison, Wisconsin
Madison Sully Veni, Vidi, Posti MP3 500, GTS 250 (both 2008 MY), 2013 Piaggio BV 350, 2014 Can Am Spyder RT Joined: UTC Posts: 7695 Location: Madison, Wisconsin	UTC quote Benelli Boy wrote: The one in the manual. It's a scooter, not a space rocket Don't space rockets also come with a manual?

Benelli Boy UTC details Ossessionato X10 350 Joined: UTC Posts: 2959 Location: London
Benelli Boy Ossessionato X10 350 Joined: UTC Posts: 2959 Location: London	UTC quote Madison Sully wrote: Benelli Boy wrote: The one in the manual. It's a scooter, not a space rocket Don't space rockets also come with a manual? You got me there. I'm busted

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old as dirt Veni, Vidi, Posti 2007 GTS Joined: UTC Posts: 23179 Location: Harriman, Tennessee, Tn	UTC quote Madison Sully wrote: Benelli Boy wrote: The one in the manual. It's a scooter, not a space rocket Don't space rockets also come with a manual? nope

WEB-Tech UTC details Veni, Vidi, Posti 2008 MP3 500, 2013 BV350, 2020 Vespa Sei Giorni, 2008 Vespa S150 Joined: UTC Posts: 8956 Location: Ashburn, Va. Home to the Internet
WEB-Tech Veni, Vidi, Posti 2008 MP3 500, 2013 BV350, 2020 Vespa Sei Giorni, 2008 Vespa S150 Joined: UTC Posts: 8956 Location: Ashburn, Va. Home to the Internet	UTC quote The best is class 4, that is real synthetic oil, this would be your Mobil 1, Amsoil, Royal Purple, Agip. Class 3 is Hydrocracked from Petroleum, this is Rotella, Castrol.

Madison Sully UTC details Veni, Vidi, Posti MP3 500, GTS 250 (both 2008 MY), 2013 Piaggio BV 350, 2014 Can Am Spyder RT Joined: UTC Posts: 7695 Location: Madison, Wisconsin
Madison Sully Veni, Vidi, Posti MP3 500, GTS 250 (both 2008 MY), 2013 Piaggio BV 350, 2014 Can Am Spyder RT Joined: UTC Posts: 7695 Location: Madison, Wisconsin	UTC quote WEB-Tech wrote: The best is class 4, that is real synthetic oil, this would be your Mobil 1, Amsoil, Royal Purple, Agip. Class 3 is Hydrocracked from Petroleum, this is Rotella, Castrol. I don't think Mobil 1 is class 4.....

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Diver3284 Hooked Gilera Fuoco, 1973 Norton Commando 850 Joined: UTC Posts: 105 Location: Australia	UTC quote New oil is better than old oil, any oil is better than no oil

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Benelli Boy Ossessionato X10 350 Joined: UTC Posts: 2959 Location: London	UTC quote Diver3284 wrote: New oil is better than old oil, any oil is better than no oil Olive oil tastes better than Popeye

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norCal Randy Ossessionato Scarabeo 500GT(hers), `07 250 MP3, `09 400 MP3 Joined: UTC Posts: 2592 Location: Kingman, Az.	UTC quote Benelli Boy wrote: Diver3284 wrote: New oil is better than old oil, any oil is better than no oil Olive oil tastes better than Popeye We switched from virgin olive oil to coconut oil. It's supposed to keep your arteries cleaner. I recently had my arteries checked with a sonogram (Lifeline) and they are flowing just fine.

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Madison Sully wrote:

WEB-Tech wrote:

The best is class 4, that is real synthetic oil, this would be your Mobil 1, Amsoil, Royal Purple, Agip. Class 3 is Hydrocracked from Petroleum, this is Rotella, Castrol.

I don't think Mobil 1 is class 4.....

Mobil 1 is the company the took Castor Oil to court because they were Hydrocracking and calling it synthetic oil. You do understand Mobil 1 invented synthetic oil, right?

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WEB-Tech wrote:

Madison Sully wrote:

WEB-Tech wrote:

The best is class 4, that is real synthetic oil, this would be your Mobil 1, Amsoil, Royal Purple, Agip. Class 3 is Hydrocracked from Petroleum, this is Rotella, Castrol.

I don't think Mobil 1 is class 4.....

Mobil 1 is the company the took Castor Oil to court because they were Hydrocracking and calling it synthetic oil. You do understand Mobil 1 invented synthetic oil, right?

Yup, and my understanding is that, due to their losing that court battle, they are also taking advantage of the hydrocrack as synthetic loophole.

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WEB-Tech wrote:

The best is class 4, that is real synthetic oil, this would be your Mobil 1, Amsoil, Royal Purple, Agip. Class 3 is Hydrocracked from Petroleum, this is Rotella, Castrol.

nope, the best is class 5/V - ester oils.
redline, mpt, some motul oils.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Synthetic_oil#Synthetic_Oil

class 4 is a grade below - pao

class 3 is not really synthetic but the courts said it was.

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