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For those who want more off-the-line acceleration this is now available. Several MP3isti on the Italian forum have installed it with good results.

http://www.malossi.com/catalogo/Cata_Main.asp?Marca=250&Modello=MO/PIMP3250&Famiglia=0&CodArt=5111885
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What is that thing and what does it do?
I have never heard of such a thing. The link you gave was all in Italian. Maybe I should start learning Italian. Then I could understand the guy on the official MP3 website talking sooooo eloquently about the MP3.
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Re: What is that thing and what does it do?
tkarlmann wrote:
The link you gave was all in Italian. Maybe I should start learning Italian.
You can also click on the little EN in the right upper corner of the page and you will be directed to the site in english
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Malossi is the premier company for scooter modifications.
Malossi is to scooters what Edlebrock is to chevy small blocks.
I have been crusing their site every month or so looking for a stroker kit.
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My local dealer indicated that the Malossi provided good performance enhancement but that the weights develop flat spots at 1200 miles and need to be changed. Not a problem for me as I would do this as part of regular maintenance.

Is there any mention of the short life of the weights from the Malossi Variator???
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I will try to get that question translated and posted. But I doubt any have put 1200 miles on their Malossi's yet.

Right now the buzz is about how much the variator affects petrol consumption. One reporter says his fuel consumption went from 25 km per liter to 22 km/L. with the installation of 15 gram rollers.
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I look forward to the information. Mileage is something I don't care about. For me, any boost in performance is worth it.

Thanks,
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I look forward to the information. Mileage is something I don't care about. For me, any boost in performance is worth it.

Thanks,
You're a tough neighbor to have!

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Well, there is at least one mechanic in Rome that agrees with your dealer. Here is a translation of mariobro's post.

Ragazzi, I had considered the Malossi multivar but my mechanic, a experienced person, has advised against this operation. In his opinion the shifters of this type do not last more than a year. Is the extra speed worth the pain? Moreover, does this not void the guarantee?

Sounds like a "no pain, no gain" situation.
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On the Italian forum Stramino has a report of his experience with the Malossi Variator.

After approximately 2000 Km with the Malossi, yesterday I had it removed, and replaced with the stock shifter. I decided to remove it because on the freeway I have noticed that if before I caught up easy to 130 kph and less easy to 140 kph, with the Malossi the 130 was difficult and the 140 a mirage (with such high rpm that the motor seemed to explode).

Moreover, when it was taken apart, the mechanic said to me that the Malossi seams were already consumed very much and needed to be replaced...

I recommend the Malossi for who has time, wants and money in order to make continuous maintenances, and for who uses it mostly in the city, therefore has need of quick departures. I recommend the normal Variator to who wants reliability and performance over a long time span.


http://www.piaggiomp3isti.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=103&whichpage=10
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It lowers the gearing. Quicker acceleration, lower top speed. And in true Italian, higher performance fashion doesn't last very long.
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Many thanks, JMD!
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Rolf Soltau (used to train all the Piaggio certified mechanics, and still consults for Piaggio) says that Malossi stuff is crap. Me, I don't know, but I tend to trust Rolf's judgement on these things.
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With the exception of exhaust systems, intake systems, air cleaners, tweaking the black boxes e.g. PowerCommanders and suspension upgrades; the machine is going to run better and longer with stock components.

On the other hand if you're a racer and do major engine work and tuning between races, the speed parts and aftermarket is the way to extract every single bit of horsepower and torque out of your machine and CVT.

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My GTS 250 is my toy, I have no interest on preserving the longevity of my engine, fuel consumption or any other old age pensioner type consideration. I want to ride it as if I stole it!

If I wanted to be sensible I'd ride a Honda, I have just had a Malossi Multivar 2000 Variator Kit fitted and I am thrashing the tits off her and lubbin it lubbin it lubbin it!

The response is awesome, it pulls my big fat body weight up hill like a train and the grin factor is superb.

As far as any one saying that Malossi is shat? What's that all about? I have used both 210 and 225 cylinder kits on P200E Vespas with no problems what so ever? Yup you are gonna wear piston rings quicker and yup the barrel is not going to last as long but so what? Tuning is about increasing performance and having fun.

The traffic light grand prix is ace with a GTS 250, take every one by surprise as the eat my wake!

That's me just about to destroy a TS1 225, I'm on the white lambretta GP 235
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As far as any one saying that Malossi is shat? What's that all about? I have used both 210 and 225 cylinder kits on P200E Vespas with no problems what so ever?
It's not so much the wear on the engine he was referring to, but the fact that when they fail they destroy anything around them, spewing shrapnel everywhere or munging all the splines off the crank. With regular inspection (as in a race motor) it's probably fine, and that's what their stuff is made for. In a bike that isn't taken apart after every other run, it could be a serious liability.

If you use Malossi stuff in the engine (and the transmission in particular), just make sure and inspect it regularly.
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My GTS 250 is my toy, I have no interest on preserving the longevity of my engine, fuel consumption or any other old age pensioner type consideration. I want to ride it as if I stole it!

If I wanted to be sensible I'd ride a Honda, I have just had a Malossi Multivar 2000 Variator Kit fitted and I am thrashing the tits off her and lubbin it lubbin it lubbin it!

The response is awesome, it pulls my big fat body weight up hill like a train and the grin factor is superb.

As far as any one saying that Malossi is shat? What's that all about? I have used both 210 and 225 cylinder kits on P200E Vespas with no problems what so ever? Yup you are gonna wear piston rings quicker and yup the barrel is not going to last as long but so what? Tuning is about increasing performance and having fun.

The traffic light grand prix is ace with a GTS 250, take every one by surprise as the eat my wake!

That's me just about to destroy a TS1 225, I'm on the white lambretta GP 235
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