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^^ thanks amateriat.

I'm not sure where this drawing is leading. It felt good to draw something quickly and not get hung up too much on the accuracy of the lines.
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rather than mock others (Bitza). Here you are....a PX.
hang on im lost ...... you sayin im mockin others
No, he's saying he was mocking you.
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^^ thanks amateriat.

I'm not sure where this drawing is leading. It felt good to draw something quickly and not get hung up too much on the accuracy of the lines.
I think you should put the second drawing on a shirt. Same thing. Dead center but no writing on the shirt besides a small logo marking the art.
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Ok, I think I might be ready to have another go at this. I've imported the previous raster sketch back into Illustrator. So I'm working in vectors again now. I've stripped the colour out and plan to use what's left as a foundation for a new image.

I'd like to see if I can work it through to a final graphic, all neatened up and smoothed out. Kind of like brushed ink work. It will be a long job cleaning up all these rough lines.

I'll keep the original sketch as a separate file so I can come back to it and use it for something if need be.

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T5bitza69 wrote:
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rather than mock others (Bitza). Here you are....a PX.
hang on im lost ...... you sayin im mockin others
No, he's saying he was mocking you.
Thanks! Yes...I was mocking Bitza for his floaty wheels..hehe. I contributed my drawing to subject myself to mockery. Let it fly!
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Here's one I did some years back. If this thread continues, I hope to find the time to do another.

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Control points. I've put the Wacom pen aside and am using the mouse and keyboard now. Mostly working directly on the control points, nudging them around one at a time.



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So many control points (little blue dots in this image - they might not show too well on small screens), but they're getting fewer all the time as I eliminate the lumps and bumps and refine the linework. It's time consuming.

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Refining and simplifying the line work. Legshield, horncast and mudguard are looking better now. Still lots to do.

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Ironfoot wrote:
^^ thanks amateriat.

I'm not sure where this drawing is leading. It felt good to draw something quickly and not get hung up too much on the accuracy of the lines.
I think you should put the second drawing on a shirt. Same thing. Dead center but no writing on the shirt besides a small logo marking the art.
I would buy one. *hint-hint*
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Still no offers to purchase the rights to my incredible original artwork. I wonder if Strick is feeling the same pain...
No purchase offers yet, but my art has been modified. It's like allowing Bob Ross (may he rest in happy trees peace) to touch up the Mona Lisa. Razz emoticon
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Here's one I did some years back. If this thread continues, I hope to find the time to do another.

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Damn, Bob! You got skillz! What's the medium? Pastels?
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Refining and simplifying the line work. Legshield, horncast and mudguard are looking better now. Still lots to do.
So far, so good. I like the idea of it being neat, but not too neat. And I like Froggieposition's notion of keeping it simple, just a logo underneath. (Goodness...with your talent, who needs a sales pitch?)
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Okay, I'm waiting. Sounds crazy-cool.
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My fun version in ink and watercolor-
That's just wonderful.
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Well...had a long conference call so I thought I would contribute one rather than mock others (Bitza). Here you are....a PX.
Also good. This is almost too much to take from y'all...
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People often ask me where my inspiration comes from.
I draw from life... from life...
I'm still giggling from your picture.
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Here's one I did some years back. If this thread continues, I hope to find the time to do another.

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Damn, Bob! You got skillz! What's the medium? Pastels?
Thanks, Etchkid, the medium is actually old fashioned airbrush! Still waiting to see yours.

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Control points. I've put the Wacom pen aside and am using the mouse and keyboard now. Mostly working directly on the control points, nudging them around one at a time.



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So many control points (little blue dots in this image - they might not show too well on small screens), but they're getting fewer all the time as I eliminate the lumps and bumps and refine the linework. It's time consuming.
Ah, bezier curves, Luv them!

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So far, so good. I like the idea of it being neat, but not too neat. And I like Froggieposition's notion of keeping it simple
Yes, I totally get the appeal of the earlier sketch. Hand-drawn work has a certain charm. There's character in the marks of a pen or brush, like in Froggie's Marmite painting and Bernadette's ink wash, both on the first page.

The direction I'm taking this will certainly alter that hand-made nature, but I aim to transfer that craft into the weight and the tapers of the outlines, and bring out the contours of the scooter.

It'll be interesting to see whether this ongoing image can win over the folk who favour the sketch.
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Ah, bezier curves, Luv them!
Yeah, beziers are more my normal working medium. They are so fine-tuneable I can get lost in them for days.
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Really getting somewhere now. Finished inking the rear cowls, that means all the body panels are now tidy and complete. Plus I've added in a few little details that weren't in the original sketch. What is that little valve/clip/thing where the bottom of the cowl meets the floorboard?

Almost all the rough hatching from the original sketch is now gone. I'll need to tackle the undercarriage and front wheel suspension next. Need to get that drawn economically without too many fiddly marks.

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Looks great!
Simply as a minor art critique, maybe round that front tire a bit more.
Digging the image though!
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And I see that you did decide to add the left side cover.

I do agree that it looks cleaner, but it seems to lose some of the character of the rough sketch when it's cleaned up. (I think "sanitized" is the word I'm looking for...) I guess it's like the difference between a museum/showroom bike and a gritty, sweaty working ride. Each has their place, and it's a matter of preference as to which someone likes better...
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maybe round that front tire a bit more.
Definitely. I'll come to that area next.
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I like it even more now. The left cowl adds more dimension to the scooter.

This is fascinating (to me) to see the process of art work from concept to rough sketches to the finished design. Keep the updates coming Ironfoot!
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I was bothered by the missing left cowel too. Now it looks like it might be a little too big. I have that exact model of scooter. I can take a picture from the same angle and see how much of it is visible.
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That's interesting Matthew. Maybe you could just eyeball it and give me a general idea.

I'm happy for it to be mostly in the right place, without getting too exact. On the other hand, I don't want it to be outright wrong.

I found another reference photo online, taken from a similar three-quarter profile, and fair amount of the further cowl was visible. That's what I used to position the line in the latest image I posted.
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Really getting somewhere now. Finished inking the rear cowls, that means all the body panels are now tidy and complete. Plus I've added in a few little details that weren't in the original sketch. What is that little valve/clip/thing where the bottom of the cowl meets the floorboard?

Almost all the rough hatching from the original sketch is now gone. I'll need to tackle the undercarriage and front wheel suspension next. Need to get that drawn economically without too many fiddly marks.
Wow...really liking it now, more than I thought I would post-"refinement." Play on, sir.
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Ok, tidied up underneath the scooter, done the front wheel and suspension. The center stand had to go.

I've nudged the line for the far side cowl over to the left a little bit. I'll make an animated gif later that will highlight how some of these lines have moved around as the drawing has progressed.

I think that's all the outline work complete. It's looking good, I'm happy. It's come a long way from the rough sketch.

I'll think about adding some colour next.

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The artwork is way cleaner now. This is a wireframe view before and after the big clean up job. The beauty of smooth vector linework like this is it can be enlarged to infinity and still look good.

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Yes, yes, yes...this is so good.
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I got as close as I could to the same angle. My camera was on the ground. I think the picture was taken from a slightly lower angle and a longer focal length. The scooter seems to be on a small hill. I think the angle is close enough to to the original picture to say that I think your location of the left cowel is about right. If you follow the curve of the exhaust up it continues into the curve of the cowel. Looks good to me.
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I got as close as I could to the same angle. My camera was on the ground. I think the picture was taken from a slightly lower angle and a longer focal length. The scooter seems to be on a small hill. I think the angle is close enough to to the original picture to say that I think your location of the left cowel is about right. If you follow the curve of the exhaust up it continues into the curve of the cowel. Looks good to me.
Beautiful scooter. I really appreciate you recreating that angle for the photo. Very helpful, and great to have the approval of an actual owner! Thanks for the feedback.
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