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Where can I buy a px 306cc engine? Who makes them? Is there an even bigger one out there?

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JB Tuning in UK so far is first dealer.
http://www.jbtuning.co.uk/JBTuning.html
You better take out a second mortgage. Pricing for the Vespa and Lambretta BSG Bullet units will be similar to a Targa twin. Around $10k USD or more. All built to order.
Better just go grab one today !
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They are made by BSG corse in Italy. The Vespa large frame and Lambretta cases share the same 305cc top end. GP One tuning in Austriamakes machined Vespa cases too that accept a variety of top ends for big power.
Why would you want bigger? The 305 is at 51hp and that's not tuning or porting! If you want big crazy two stroke single go get a Honda cr500 or ATK 700

https://www.facebook.com/bsgcorse.it/

http://www.bsgcorse.it/

http://www.gp-one.at/
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Call me old fashioned, but if you need a bike faster than a 225cc vespa, you should be buying a motorcycle.
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I like scooters because its a step thru seat. I also like the shifting done as a grip shift. So for me I like scooters.
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OK, Large Ben is Old Fashioned. Having raced big bore 2 strokes in GNCC and Hare Scrambles, riding a bigger bore bike doesn't necessarily mean one is going to ride it like a 125. Larger bore bikes have more torque which enables the rider to maintain speed without over riding the bike. I'd consider giving up my left nut for a P that sounds like that and accelerates like a banshee. I inquired about the BSG motors when I built my 221. The $$ is what prohibited me from going that route, plus the $$ needed to be spent to make the bike stable and allow it to stop safely.
That yellow bike is totally badass
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The $$ is what prohibited me from going that route, plus the $$ needed to be spent to make the bike stable and allow it to stop safely.
I guess you're pretty safe with a complete motor... but so many scooter parts need modification to get them to fit, even from some of the biggest name manufacturers. So I suppose you would add that to the budget.
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Ginch wrote:
Willie B wrote:
The $$ is what prohibited me from going that route, plus the $$ needed to be spent to make the bike stable and allow it to stop safely.
I guess you're pretty safe with a complete motor... but so many scooter parts need modification to get them to fit, even from some of the biggest name manufacturers. So I suppose you would add that to the budget.
And to think I considered checking myself into rehab after the 221 build? I was told the hot BSG builds were north of $10K for the motor alone.
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Willie B wrote:
Ginch wrote:
Willie B wrote:
The $$ is what prohibited me from going that route, plus the $$ needed to be spent to make the bike stable and allow it to stop safely.
I guess you're pretty safe with a complete motor... but so many scooter parts need modification to get them to fit, even from some of the biggest name manufacturers. So I suppose you would add that to the budget.
And to think I considered checking myself into rehab after the 221 build? I was told the hot BSG builds were north of $10K for the motor alone.
I got a price from the seller (JB Tuning?) of £9000 for what they said was ready to install & hook up (the details are in that other thread). I think that adds up to $13000US.
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with this amount amount of power I would probably want front and rear disc brakes. I know sip sells front disc conversion kits, but is there a rear disc brake conversion kit? If so how easy to install?
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SIP does a rear as well.
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ok that's the answer I needed
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