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Hello

I need your help with some issues with my turn signals and running lights. I bought these from SIP (http://www.sip-scootershop.com/main/base/Details.aspx?ProductNumber=mv000475&_language=en) for my 2016 GTS 300 and had my local Vespa dealer install them. They are not working correctly and I took my bike back 3 times and they still can't correct the problems. The issues I am having with the turn signals are, they work initially but after riding for an hour or more they stop flashing and stay on, then I turn them off and back on again they work again and sometimes the flashing is at longer intervals than normal. The running lights are on but sometime the right one is out and sometimes it's on depending on it's mood I suppose. The parts I received from SIP were all OEM Piaggio products. Any advice on where to start or what the issues might be? There aren't any other Vespa dealers near by in my area for a second opinion...

Thanks in advance
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Do you have the instructions that came with the kit? Have you taken out the left lamp to check the wiring?
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yes I do have the instructions and will check the wiring again
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Curious about this as well, since switching to this setup at some point has crossed my mind as well
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I switched to this setup a couple weeks after I got my bike, but have had zero issues with them.
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It sounds like this may be an issue with the various connections.

From the SIP website....This conversion requires the connectors on the new indicator units to be swapped. To make use of the running-lights a wire needs to be laid underneath the horncover and speedometer surround between the indicators and the running-light circuit section of the wiring-loom. For this conversion use our indicator kit part. no. MV000475. All necessary plugs, connectors, both front indicators and bulbs are included in this kit. An illustrated mounting instruction is also included in the delivery.

If you still have the installation docs, it might serve you well to go through it all yourself. Taking your scooter apart can be daunting, but there are plenty of great youtube vids out there that offer great guidance. The toughest part will be taking the headset apart, but it's not that tough. Remove your windscreen 1st (if you have one), then your mirrors. After that it's 3 screws, the toughest one is under the headlight. Look for youtube video to help you.

Good luck and let us know how you end up.
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yes, I have the original instructions and will take a crack at it...

Thanks
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Had a similar issue with an aftermarket light kit. Found a wire that worked itself loose from the modulator block. All good now.

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Hey Budz.
Just as there are BV's that never have hose clamp issues. There are plenty of splice connectors that never have issues. And then somebody has a BV overheating or a splice connector that fails.
IMHO I've never liked splice connectors. I prefer heat shrink butt connectors. Sure splice connectors are easy and cheap. Now it's time to enjoy the show Popcorn emoticon
I hate these things and never use them.
I hate these things and never use them.
This is how I do my wiring.
This is how I do my wiring.
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Thanks for the help, turns out when the dealer installed the wiring the soldering ran down the connection which interfered with the connection, cut out that connection and installed a bullet connection and everything works, sort of, when the fan turns on and the turn signals are on they stay on and don't flash. This I may need the help of the local Vespa scooter specialist shop, not my local dealer obviously...
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Glad the dealer figured out what happened.
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ddaarr wrote:
Glad the dealer figured out what happened.
Thanks but it wasn't fixed by the local Vespa dealer...
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Took the bike to an indy shop that specializes in Vespas, turns out the wiring was done incorrectly by the local dealer and the flasher was bad.
Question is; a bad flasher should be a warranty item but since I took it to an indy shop will Piaggio reimburse me given that the local dealer was unable to repair it after several tries?
I am thinking no but curious about other's experiences...
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Without an authorized dealer diagnosing and fixing the bike, I don't think you're going to be reimbursed. If there's a recall on the flasher down the road you can probably get reimbursed, but not this time around.
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taurussvt wrote:
Without an authorized dealer diagnosing and fixing the bike, I don't think you're going to be reimbursed. If there's a recall on the flasher down the road you can probably get reimbursed, but not this time around.
Thanks taurussvt, suspected that was the case...

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