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I will knowin your in london while I ride

I thought I'd check up on what it says in the highway code for roundabouts. I was genuinely interested in whether I was wrong. The Highway Code says keep left lane for 1st exit, right lane for last exit, and the 'appropriate' lane for intermediate exits. There are two lanes on the exit so either lane is more than fine for going straight on. Which highway code are you using?

I have a round about that the left lane goes only left, while the right lane can be used to go either right or straight....Do you know how many people will crowd out a scooter, to cut him off, in the left lane to go straight? Plenty, and most don't care! Only when I have my big pickup, I will hold my lane.....happens almost every time I go through there with traffic.....and the round about is not new, been there for 5 years now!

First to the jct goes first after stop
If two arrive at same time, car on right has right away.
Car going straight ahead has right of way over car turning left.

You are absolutely correct. It has been the same in the highway code since I learnt to drive in 1982. Roundabouts with two approach and two exit lanes should be used thus: left lane approach for first exit signalling left. Any exit after 12 o'clock should use the right lane and indicate right, merging over to the left and indicating left just before your exit. On a dual carriage way with a roundabout, both lane one and lane two are fair game for going straight ahead, maintaining whichever lane you decide to use. Advanced training teaches something else (straightlining - more straight lining than you have previously mentioned); if the road is clear approach in left, straight line into lane two of the roundabout and exit in lane one of the exit (if you are going straight on and there is no other traffic). Rationale for this, is that it is safer then negotiating the roundabout in a lean, especially when wet or when there is a risk of diesel spills.

i was chatting with a lass i know yesterday that teaches cbts and the way i use them n the way she told me she teaches are the same ......
plus she told me to invest in a camera for my safety n easy dealing with road knobs .... n its time i bought a real bike ... her words not mine

so if i do it how i do n you like you do does that mean fastest exits first n tothers on his arse?

Sadly I can only understand parts of what you write.
If it was me, and I'd insulted someone and was then shown to be completely in the wrong, then I'd of just gone for a simple apology.
YMMV

sadly ive found this to show how i was taught n how my friend teaches ...... simples

the voice is annoyin

ere mi china plate I can wait for an apology aw day but ya 're makin' yourself butchers rite fore n aft

I could try explaining again but something tells me I'd just be wasting my time.
Perhaps it might be worth going further than compulsory basic training?

In a lighter mood....

This is how most Americans imagine themselves in a Roundabout in Britan.

Ill have another go... my .. freind .... teaches .... c ... b ... t .... she sends people out doing the same as the vid . . think you need more trainin kid

robinm and bitza ... put the handbags away please or you're both going to the naughty step

with a slapped arse ?



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Traffic-circles/roundabouts appear to be a good deal more popular in New Jersey than in my native New York: as a cyclist, I've almost always liked, and as a scooterist I've come to like them even more, although the ones I've recently encountered in my neck of NJ are of the smaller variety (which seems to be the norm in the States). One advantage of smaller roundabouts, IMO, is that I can assess traffic flow in a narrower visual "sweep" than I might in a more Euro-sized circle. Also, most motorists I've observed tend to enter roundabouts in a fairly sober and predictable manner. (And, this in a state whose drivers, let's just say, don't have a rep for either courtesy or patience.)

On the other hand: there are five four-way intersections in town that are downright treacherous, equipped either with semi-obscure Stop signs or, just about as bad, a single, flashing signal (red or yellow, depending on direction), and, just to add that extra frisson of excitement, these run parallel to a pair of very active railroad tracks, with crossings every few blocks. On top of all this, no two intersections are alike in terms of controls - the first has Stop signs, the next has the single flashing signal, the one after this has a standard traffic light...it's downright amazing we haven't had any more fender-benders than we do.

Actually every thing robinm has said about roundabouts is correct and just because someone teaches something doesn't mean that it is correct. Here is a sensible approach to roundabouts:

http://www.motorcyclenews.com/news/2011/august/aug0411-mcn-iam-better-riding-guide-tackling-roundabouts/