Modern Vespa

Everyone,

I picked up a non-runner 1980 Vespa P200E.
The bike has battery, Kick stater and no-start button.

So I looked over the bike as was able to test the Stator.

Kicking it over I got the following volt meter:
White with Positive/Green with Negative: 4.0 volts.
White with Positve/Red with Negative: 0.0volts
Red with Negative/Green with Positive: 5.0 volts.

Do I need to test the stator cover too? It's just metal and I'm guessing that's not a problem.

I'm guessing this stator is bad???
Can anyone suggest where to buy a 7 wire stator for cheap?
I found this stator on Ebay for $100 shipped from the UK? good enough?
should I stay away?



http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vespa-P-200-E-1977-1982-Stator-/401129857007?hash=item5d6533dfef:g:6X4AAOSwgtJXTsTS&vxp=mtr

I'd stay away from eBay electronics.

Check out this post I put together. Instead of checking voltage check the resistance of each stator coil to ground with the scoot turned off.

Stator Values Wiki

1979 US P200 7 wire stator
G- 495 ohms
Red to CDI-128
W-00.2
Black- 00.5
Yellow - No continuity
Red to harness- No continuity
Purple- 00.5 ohms

stray from guy-will-do-it-for-$40 unless they specialize in that electrical task.

scooterwest will rewire your stator the first time properly.

This. Or send it to Scooter Mercato. But no e-bay electrics from random sources.

I think that you need a double yellow wire stator. The one that you are posting on the link would not work directly on your P200E with battery.

I went through a similar issue. Scooterwest sells them but they are pricy, I think they offer repairs. It has been a while since I had to replace and repair my stator.

If you PM me I might still have a spare stator but I dont think is the double yellow wire but is from an older P 200

Awesome I'll try to check this weekend and thank you so much for pointing me another direction. I appreciate all the help and knowledge of this forum group.

Kingley,

I sent you a huge PM with some ideas. If you can wait until Saturday I will walk you through some T-shooting steeps from my garage using my own Vespa P200E.

first thing i would do is unplug the second green wire from the CDI and check for spark- there may be a hidden kill switch or a short in the frame. unplugging that wire isolates the engine from the rest of the wiring.

Stators are checked with an ohm meter. unplug the CDI and measure between red and white and red and green, one should be 480, the other 110, +/- about 10%

if you are within these ranges, your CDI is most likely bad, and those are a higher failure rate item than the stator.

You can get a compatible stator for those US market bikes;

however you will most likely need to swap the headlight out to use it a they went fro ma 35w to a 55w headlight on the later models that that stator is sourced from. easiest way to do this is to get a halogen headlight kit.

I sell the stators, they run about $85, if you must get one. but i'd run thru that diagnostic i listed first.

http://www.hodgespeed.com/19918800/dp/18168

Thanks everyone who help me get my 1980 Vespa P200E running.

Much appreciation to the following people:
Scootermercato.com Matt and David.
They were able to troubleshoot via photos and videos to the stator.
Got a great replacement shipped and new.

Christan from Bar Italia.... Owner
Also was able to get small parts like rubber trip, inner tube and sight glass.

Carlos Garcia who's a big fan of Vespa and reached out to help me via email and a few calls.

I won't mention the a-hole on this forum who's a drunk lazy-ass.
I'm glad I didn't bring my Vespa to "him" because I heard horror stories from the local LA community this guy isn't reliable.

So enough bashing and praise on to the follow up.

The Vespa is starting and running good.
Oil changed with 75-90 Gear oil because we don't have 30 SAE weight in California w/o detergent.
The issue was broken old stator and it ran for couple days and stopped. Second was the green kill wire grounding. I had to run a new wire so she's all good.
3rd problem shifting issue needed to adjust and oil the clutch cables.
4th The 2 stroke oil seems to not flow into engine. I have little air bubble in the line and it hasn't moved after 5 miles of riding.
Of course I put the 40/1 gas mix in the gasoline tank until the 2 stroke oil works properly. Anyone have a clue to get her going? I did do a Carburetor but didn't break down the stroke mount by the carb. Should I open her and see if it doesn't have any clogs.

So under the speedo I noticed the green wire isn't connected to anything and missing wire to plug in number 6. Doesn't anyone know where the green wire goes, I'm guessing ground to the body?
Also number six???

Ok I found a wiring diagram...

So the green wire to ignition is going to CDI for kill switch ground again???
And no wires to section 6. Right??

that's correct, it's a redundant system so that you can shut off the bike via the kill switch or the key switch. you can jump it in at the handlebar or down at the wiring block. or just leave it detached, and kill the bike with the switch instead of the key.

hth
-g