Sat Jul 16, 2016 2:34 am

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Sat Jul 16, 2016 2:34 am linkquote
Hi all, I just bought Piaggio Mp3 400 2009 from second hand and I still have problem with thermometer.

On LCD it says LO instead temterature.

Could you help me with this?

Can you tell me, where is situated the Thermometer on scooter? It helps me.

I just add photo of it.


Thanks a lot for help guys.


LO on LCD display.

Sat Jul 16, 2016 3:30 am

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Sat Jul 16, 2016 3:30 am linkquote
your low on coolant.
Sat Jul 16, 2016 3:55 am

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Sat Jul 16, 2016 3:55 am linkquote
old as dirt wrote:
your low on coolant.

I had no idea this warning existed!
Cool....
Sat Jul 16, 2016 4:50 am

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Sat Jul 16, 2016 4:50 am linkquote
old as dirt wrote:
your low on coolant.
Not sure, yesterday I tried to full it, did not help :/ but thanks for help
Sat Jul 16, 2016 5:18 am

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Sat Jul 16, 2016 5:18 am linkquote
paN wrote:
old as dirt wrote:
your low on coolant.
Not sure, yesterday I tried to full it, did not help :/ but thanks for help
Be careful with that, not having adequate coolant can cost you a engine.
There is a process to follow to get the Air out, do your research.

If its been two years, you need to flush and re-fill with the Red/Pink AGIP Coolant.

Keith,
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Sat Jul 16, 2016 5:53 am

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Sat Jul 16, 2016 5:53 am linkquote
I might be mistaken on the coolant it could be the outside temp is below or close to freezing.
Sat Jul 16, 2016 6:07 am

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Sat Jul 16, 2016 6:07 am linkquote
old as dirt wrote:
I might be mistaken on the coolant it could be the outside temp is below or close to freezing.
Could be, but for some reason I recall it saying "ICE" when it is cold out.
Sat Jul 16, 2016 6:08 am

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Sat Jul 16, 2016 6:08 am linkquote
That, and the weather in Slovakia right now is nowhere near freezing, so if that's a pic of a freshly purchased scooter, probably not an ice warning.
Sat Jul 16, 2016 7:41 am

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Sat Jul 16, 2016 7:41 am linkquote
I thought the scooter was being polite and greeting you. L O (hello) Don't worry I'll get my coat on the way out
Sat Jul 16, 2016 8:35 am

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Sat Jul 16, 2016 8:35 am linkquote
old as dirt wrote:
I might be mistaken on the coolant it could be the outside temp is below or close to freezing.
That's not happening here in Atlanta...
Time to read the Manual.
I have never seen LO before, that was a knew one on me.

I just searched for LO in the User Shop Manuals. Nothing...
Sat Jul 16, 2016 12:45 pm

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Sat Jul 16, 2016 12:45 pm linkquote
it is 07 degrees. it is just upside down.

i did a google search really quickly and came back with nothing other than another post on here from 2009 or 10.
Sat Jul 16, 2016 2:10 pm

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Sat Jul 16, 2016 2:10 pm linkquote
new200guy wrote:
it is 07 degrees. it is just upside down.

i did a google search really quickly and came back with nothing other than another post on here from 2009 or 10.
Ok, I can accept that being upside down, but what about the other digits on the same LCD Panel, they aren't upside down. I spent an hour or so on this, it had me so curious I gave up looking.

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Sat Jul 16, 2016 10:06 pm

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Sat Jul 16, 2016 10:06 pm linkquote
old as dirt wrote:
I might be mistaken on the coolant it could be the outside temp is below or close to freezing.
There was 35 degree and it said LO


I just did not try to take the air out of engine and intercooler system, but as far as I know, it is done by itselft (automatically)

Or if not helps, try to change all watter there.
Sat Jul 16, 2016 10:10 pm

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Sat Jul 16, 2016 10:10 pm linkquote
sixpence wrote:
I thought the scooter was being polite and greeting you. L O (hello) Don't worry I'll get my coat on the way out
Ehmm, OK hope so then I go to the garage and appologize and ask for temperature info you know it says all the time when it is running

Thanks for idea
Sat Jul 16, 2016 10:11 pm

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Sat Jul 16, 2016 10:11 pm linkquote
klaborde wrote:
old as dirt wrote:
I might be mistaken on the coolant it could be the outside temp is below or close to freezing.
That's not happening here in Atlanta...
Time to read the Manual.
I have never seen LO before, that was a knew one on me.

I just searched for LO in the User Shop Manuals. Nothing...
Thanks for time, I tried to search it in manuals, nothing
Mon Jul 18, 2016 6:49 am

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Mon Jul 18, 2016 6:49 am linkquote
paN wrote:
I just did not try to take the air out of engine and intercooler system, but as far as I know, it is done by itselft (automatically)
You do need to burp it manually. It's covered in the service manual (available via link in the wiki) and quite easy.

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Tue Jul 19, 2016 8:56 pm

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Tue Jul 19, 2016 8:56 pm linkquote
When I was riding my 400 MP3 in high temp conditions the temp gauge went from reading 123F to HI when the temp I assume hit 124F. So at least on the high side the temp gauge only reads accurately to a certain point. If it was really cold in Slovakia maybe that's why it read LO.
Wed Sep 09, 2020 1:03 pm

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Wed Sep 09, 2020 1:03 pm linkquote
"LO"?????
my 2009 mp3 500 shows "LO" where it usually reads the outside ambient temp. any idea why? i never saw an answer to the original post...



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Thu Sep 10, 2020 7:07 am linkquote
For 2009, you only have 6900 miles, it means that your mileage is LO, you need to get out and ride more.

I suspect it's a problem with the temperature sensor or its connections. The sensor is located under the leg shield, and it can get covered with road debris and dirt and water, and the connections can go bad. Find it, clean it off and grease the connections with some dielectric grease, and it will probably start working again.
Thu Sep 10, 2020 12:47 pm

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Thu Sep 10, 2020 12:47 pm linkquote
coollant or air in the system or temp sensor kaputt
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Thu Sep 10, 2020 6:56 pm linkquote
This temp is read not from head temp sensor, but from riders' right knee. So no coolant there (unless spilled on their pants).
Fri Sep 11, 2020 2:37 am

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Fri Sep 11, 2020 2:37 am linkquote
Re: "LO"?????
jromeo350420 wrote:
my 2009 mp3 500 shows "LO" where it usually reads the outside ambient temp. any idea why? i never saw an answer to the original post...
Don't look for logic in Piaggio's actions
For example, how would you like to sound 5 beeps when there is a pressure problem in the tilt lock system? It doesn't make any sense, but it exists ...

Based on my complete lack of experience with Italian technique, I agree with Squeazel's idea, and I assume that the wire to the ambient temperature sensor is open or short in this line.
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Fri Sep 11, 2020 8:46 am linkquote
If you ever had a will to read manual, 5 beeps would make sense for you
Fri Sep 11, 2020 8:49 am

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Fri Sep 11, 2020 8:49 am linkquote
In the manual can describe any crazy thing to cover ass...
Fri Sep 11, 2020 9:15 am

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Fri Sep 11, 2020 9:15 am linkquote
Those 5 beeps are totally fine for anyone around the world, what's wrong with them for you?
Fri Sep 11, 2020 2:48 pm

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Fri Sep 11, 2020 2:48 pm linkquote
Mine does that when the outside temp is below freezing. It is letting you know it is cold enough for water on the road to freeze.
Fri Sep 11, 2020 10:31 pm

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Fri Sep 11, 2020 10:31 pm linkquote
WEB-Tech wrote:
Mine does that when the outside temp is below freezing. It is letting you know it is cold enough for water on the road to freeze.
This is more believable, than coolant volume...
Thu Sep 17, 2020 2:56 pm

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Thu Sep 17, 2020 2:56 pm linkquote
Well I filled up the coolant and the reading did not go away also the outside temperature is around 80 degrees Fahrenheit so it's not an outside temperature warning from the temperature being too low so this is really got my head spinning I called dealerships and even they can't give me an answer. This is really weird and if anyone could give me an answer on why it's reading "LO" I would really appreciate it because at this point I'm scared to keep riding it without knowing what the issue is
Thu Sep 17, 2020 3:21 pm

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Thu Sep 17, 2020 3:21 pm linkquote
Don't be scared of riding it. It can only be a faulty sensor, or more likely the connection to it. This is only the ambient temperature reading after all! That's of big consequence to the engine, thought it might take it into account to in its air-mass calculations.
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Thu Sep 17, 2020 8:31 pm linkquote
I guess ECU takes into account the other sensor, which is located in throttle body. Simply because it is more accurate to real temp of intake air.
Fri Sep 18, 2020 8:32 am

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Fri Sep 18, 2020 8:32 am linkquote
Thanks for all the suggestions everyone I guess I'm going to try to start with the temperature sensor and see if anything's loose or dirty and go from there..
Fri Sep 18, 2020 8:38 am

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Fri Sep 18, 2020 8:38 am linkquote
Is this the sensor? Sorry for being naive!



Fri Sep 18, 2020 11:12 am

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Fri Sep 18, 2020 11:12 am linkquote
Yep!
Sat Sep 19, 2020 3:34 am

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Sat Sep 19, 2020 3:34 am linkquote
That won't cause the Lo on the dash the green plugon the head
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Sat Sep 19, 2020 8:31 am linkquote
Maksor wrote:
That won't cause the Lo on the dash the green plugon the head
Are you sure? The engine temperature gauge and ambient temperature gauge readouts on the dash are separate. This 'LO' is for the ambient temp. surely, or have I got that completely wrong?
Sat Sep 19, 2020 10:36 am

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Sat Sep 19, 2020 10:36 am linkquote
im sure
Thu May 20, 2021 11:48 am

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Thu May 20, 2021 11:48 am linkquote
correct, where the outside temp usually reads
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