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It's around the same price as the other Pinasco cases isn't it?
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How useful would it be though? If you're building from scratch and looking for lots of power wouldn't you opt for a 200-based setup rather than one that only goes to 172 (think that's the size of Malossi cylinder for T5)?
In the article they mention motorcycle cylinder conversions... this at first glance looks like the only advantage.
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Trying my hand at a cylinder design for the MotoBi. Mostly to figure out the CAD organization than to get a working cylinder at this point.

Goal would be to have a modern-ish 5 port layout with fins that look just like the original.
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Trying my hand at a cylinder design for the MotoBi. Mostly to figure out the CAD organization than to get a working cylinder at this point.

Goal would be to have a modern-ish 5 port layout with fins that look just like the original.
I guess you've seen this? The amount of work going into it is incredible.

http://www.alloyavenue.com/vb/showthread.php?11802-Air-cooled-2-cycle-motorcycle-racing-cylinder
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Trying my hand at a cylinder design for the MotoBi. Mostly to figure out the CAD organization than to get a working cylinder at this point.

Goal would be to have a modern-ish 5 port layout with fins that look just like the original.
I guess you've seen this? The amount of work going into it is incredible.

http://www.alloyavenue.com/vb/showthread.php?11802-Air-cooled-2-cycle-motorcycle-racing-cylinder
Oh yes! Everything Jeff touches is a work of art.

there is also some great stuff being done here:
http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php/162399-The-Bucket-Foundry

My intent is to print a positive in wax and investment cast it. I'm trying to setup the ports so I can go in and change the size and angle in the cad file and have the change propagate through the rest of the design.
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Sign me up for one! A modern cylinder with "tea cup handles" for transfers would be amazing!
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today I scooted to work for the first time. 25 miles one way and had to find my way from my new pad.....

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GPS'd 71 mph on the Yellow Super! Not sure I want to go faster without better brakes.

modkuo: FYI, there's a shortcut (actually a bike path) that runs under the freeway and connects Friars Rd to Murphy Canyon Rd. Saves about 1/2 an hour. Or take Friars to Linda Vista to Genesee.
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@ SD... will need to find that....it took me over an hour. **YELLOW!** whoa nelly..!
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Ya, all broken in.. u need to give it a spin
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thanks MJ ! still need to meet up with you sometime soon!
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Dropped off my P200 cylinder at a shop I found in Escondido for milling and honing. Guy seemed nice, hopefully I can recommend them when it comes back. Little shop doing motorcycle and ATV work, seems like a match. He said he could cut me an o-ring groove in a cylinder head too if I need it (I brought a HRS head as an example). Hoping this works out as Al stopped doing work.
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Nice find john! Especially local. Interested to see the outcome.
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GPS'd 71 mph on the Yellow Super! Not sure I want to go faster without better brakes.
Woohoo!

Btw... brakes are overrated. They only slow you down. Razz emoticon
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Dropped off my P200 cylinder at a shop I found in Escondido for milling and honing. Guy seemed nice, hopefully I can recommend them when it comes back. Little shop doing motorcycle and ATV work, seems like a match. He said he could cut me an o-ring groove in a cylinder head too if I need it (I brought a HRS head as an example). Hoping this works out as Al stopped doing work.
Hopeful news! If he has an adjustable boring head and a good vertical mill, he should be able to accurately remachine rotary pad faces after welding if he's interested. Should be a fairly quick job after he makes a good holding fixture. Got any ace aluminum welders local?

Meanwhile, some vacation pics from a week plus on my wife's beautiful Ionian island, Kefalonia:

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We were greeted by two and a half days of heavy rain, then cloudy, foggy and windy some days and glorious sunshine some days too. A few days were even hot at midday.

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The red one is my nephew's and the brown 50S was recently brought back to life w/ a Primmy crank & top end, some port work( Cannot recommend... , the 2nd motor that was split ), 90/100 primaries, 19 carb on a Polini reed intake and a Simonini kidney noisemaker.

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Putzed w/ timing and tried bigger jets while waiting for weather to improve. Motor was not making & maintaining good power.

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Weather better so goat tail test run, 98 jet works better but still too ragged at WOT. Go bigger.

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103 main jet seems to be the sweet spot, pulls well down low and winds out clean when it finally 'gets on the pipe'.

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The roads here are amazing on a scooter, many w/fairly new pavement. Lots of up and down with sweeping curves and some hairpins too. Like the steep road down to Myrtos beach. That's a long ways down there, you can see some of the road.

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Sunny just warm w/ a breeze, beach is empty. No problem hauling both wifey & myself back up from the beach, with 2nd gear in the hairpins, 3rd gear most of the way and even a little 4th.

Better pics here, find your way back up to the village but careful of those hairpins - https://goo.gl/maps/PEno1PvEJyR2
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Nice post Voodoo! Looks like you're having a great time.
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I wouldn't come back
Wow Voodoo. The way the weather has been here in Seattle, I would stay there!!
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Yeah, I heard PNW got storm hammered pretty hard, too bad I missed all the action

Thanks Ginchy, but being gone & offline I missed your post on the 1000 K run. I think I might have logged 100 K all together, maybe a bit more but definitely much slower. I do like your classy spare tank w/ gauge, nice work!

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Great pics Voods... say hi to Thalia for me! You missed all the fun in the Pac NW for sure....they got pounded by that storm. All 3 waves of it....

Nice family scoots too!
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Fall day in Maine... About 60°
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joshzingzing wrote:
It is a nice find e


Do you ever get up to near the mentawies ? I have family there.. Too scared to go there though
sorry for late respons, i am located nowhere near the sea aka deep in the forest no surf but lots of cozy trees but today i will be head back to jakarta while i have 3 days off so i will try to work on my barnbike and do some rounion with the vespa folks, will post the pics for you, until then have a nice day and cheer
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Got my P200 cylinder back. 0.030" taken off the top and a fresh hone job.

Installed it with fresh rings. Squish is still a bit more than I'd like at 1.9mm but the compression is at 165, so I'd say we're maxed out. I was trying to guess conservative on the squish so I wouldn't screw up the compression too much. We'll see how it does this week sometime.
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Went to the Lambretta Club of Australia HQ. Copped a bit of shit for parking the Vespa next to their Lammies. Razz emoticon They were selling a bunch of nos parts that belong to a bloke in his eighties. He worked at the importers years ago and took home all the inventory when they shut up shop. My mate spotted his old scoot in the corner that he sold in 1987! He bought it back.
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Spend my last day off of the monrh by taking my wife on a sunday ride Razz emoticon
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That's the idea! I'mma be Punkin' Head!

Now i just need to figure out how to set fire to the whole head!
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... that's a serious pumpkin!


... today, err tonight I put on my "English Bobby" costume and handed out a few pounds (not pun intended) of candy to about 50 really cute costumed children... Good times!!!

I flash 'em all w/ my Maglite and do my best "nothing to see here.. move along.. move along... impression" Razz emoticon
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Is your wife wearing her Hijab over her helmet?
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Is your wife wearing her Hijab over her helmet?
nope, normally she use the helmet that i wear in the pic while i use the fullface oldie helmet.. but that day the sun is high so she didnt wanna use helmet and its not in a highway so i guess that can do, besides most of the traffic give me ways when they hear my pipe roars
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Claude wrote:
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Spend my last day off of the monrh by taking my wife on a sunday ride Razz emoticon
Is your wife wearing her Hijab over her helmet?
nope, normally she use the helmet that i wear in the pic while i use the fullface oldie helmet.. but that day the sun is high so she didnt wanna use helmet and its not in a highway so i guess that can do, besides most of the traffic give me ways when they hear my pipe roars
I rode without a helmet when I rented a bike in Thailand. It's Reckless, but I was suffocating in the heat with a helmet. Life on the edge. Take care, dude.

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