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I tried to take the Oi! Mobile to the liquor store and got a block from my house before the left side cowl fell off.
Guess that takes care of me wondering if the clip on panels stay on.

N/M guess those came later.
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I tried to take the Oi! Mobile to the liquor store and got a block from my house before the left side cowl fell off.

Put it back on, kept going. Went another block and it died. Had gas, but wouldn't fire. Pushed it home, took the BooBadge to the liquor store

Came back and Oi! had pissed varnish smelling gas all over the workshop floor. It'll get some proper attention this weekend, but jeez...
this is pure Lammy essence, delivered in record time. The panel fell off my old Serveta during ROM before the first fuel stop - it's one of the details the new owner shared with me.
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Guess that takes care of me wondering if the clip on panels stay on.
They do except when they don't. Razz emoticon

the fundamental design seems okay, though.
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They do except when they don't. Razz emoticon

the fundamental design seems okay, though.
ahem ^^^
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Tanks perfectly in position to drip over the hot cylinder! Might want to leave that one outside your garage Razz emoticon
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Today, I finally went to the Dark Side...

Li150 Series 3. All stock. Started second kick after we unloaded it off the van. Other than new tires and some cable greasing, I'm riding it as-is for a bit to get the feel, then J.J. and I are going to Do Things to the motor. Razz emoticon
Congrats on the Lammy! The Vespa people bag on the Lammy, but once you get the engine 100% dialed in (along with the rest of the scooter), then they are just as reliable as any Vespa. It definitely takes more time and money to get them dialed in though. My Serveta 150 when all stock was such a gutless turd. I used to tell people that if you wanted an all stock catalyzed PX 150 to go faster, ride a stock Serveta 150. My gutless PX would blow the panels off my serveta on acceleration! Eventually i swapped in a 200 block and installed a BGM 225. It's currently under the knife with a reeded Mugello 225 5 speed...
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Whodat, that's the direction I'll eventually end up, I suspect, because...well...reasons.

For the moment, I just want to sort out the float and needle so it doesn't piss all over the workshop floor and get some safe tires on it. Once I get a little time with it, I'll figure out where I want to go next.
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Whodat, that's the direction I'll eventually end up, I suspect, because...well...reasons.

For the moment, I just want to sort out the float and needle so it doesn't piss all over the workshop floor and get some safe tires on it. Once I get a little time with it, I'll figure out where I want to go next.
Definitely take your time figuring out what and how you want it. I kept my 150 engine stock (well expect for an inexpensive 12v conversion) for at least a couple years before i made it go any faster. In fact i did body, paint, suspension, and brakes before i did any engine tuning. Seems like new performance kits are always being released, so it's not like you're loosing out on anything by jumping the gun in the moment.
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Definitely take your time figuring out what and how you want it. I kept my 150 engine stock (well expect for an inexpensive 12v conversion) for at least a couple years before i made it go any faster. In fact i did body, paint, suspension, and brakes before i did any engine tuning. Seems like new performance kits are always being released, so it's not like you're loosing out on anything by jumping the gun in the moment.
Truth.

I got back out in the workshop last night and looked at everything, then came back and watched some basic maintenance videos. Simple stuff like removing and cleaning the carb, removing the front wheel.

I'm amazed at how few options there are for things in the Lammy world. And they aren't kidding about spares costing twice as much, either. I think a big part of that is that it seems to be a low-volume business compared to Vespas, so they need more margin on each part to keep the lights on.

I still find it strange that what I would have thought were pretty basic things, like an SH1/20 carb rebuild kit, are all backordered, so basically don't exist.

Oh, well. How's that saying go..."We do this not because it is easy..." Razz emoticon
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Many many people ditch the stock carbs because they are finicky. A basic modern carb might be right up your alley.
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Many many people ditch the stock carbs because they are finicky. A basic modern carb might be right up your alley.
For sure. I just don't want to buy a 20mm PWK only to turn around and ditch it in a few weeks if I start tuning this sucker.
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For sure. I just don't want to buy a 20mm PWK only to turn around and ditch it in a few weeks if I start tuning this sucker.
I am imagining a stockpile of modern carbs on your shelf already, my bad
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I am imagining a stockpile of modern carbs on your shelf already, my bad
There is, but none of them are little tiny modern carbs! Laughing emoticon

The smallest one I have is a PWK 28, and would be a bit much for a stock 150. It'd be literally impossible (physics!) to tune from off-idle to 1/4 throttle.
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There is, but none of them are little tiny modern carbs! Laughing emoticon

The smallest one I have is a PWK 28, and would be a bit much for a stock 150. It'd be literally impossible (physics!) to tune from off-idle to 1/4 throttle.
Yeah, too big!
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I'm amazed at how few options there are for things in the Lammy world. And they aren't kidding about spares costing twice as much, either. I think a big part of that is that it seems to be a low-volume business compared to Vespas, so they need more margin on each part to keep the lights on.

I still find it strange that what I would have thought were pretty basic things, like an SH1/20 carb rebuild kit, are all backordered, so basically don't exist.

Oh, well. How's that saying go..."We do this not because it is easy..." Razz emoticon
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Seems the wideframes have something in common with the Lammy set. Expensive, hard to get, backordered or unobtainable. My wife told me to never sell the GS. I do have a special relationship with this scoot and she's not even finished yet. Yep, for the love of it!
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Seems the wideframes have something in common with the Lammy set. Expensive, hard to get, backordered or unobtainable. My wife told me to never sell the GS. I do have a special relationship with this scoot and she's not even finished yet. Yep, for the love of it!
Wideframes are a different breed even within the Vespa fraternity many parts are unique and not compatible like so many other Vespa models. To a seasoned Vespa guy dealing with a wide body would be as foreign to them as a Lambretta. This is why having one and keeping it running requires deep commitment. It's also one of the best sensations riding it.
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I tried to take the Oi! Mobile to the liquor store and got a block from my house before the left side cowl fell off.

Put it back on, kept going. Went another block and it died. Had gas, but wouldn't fire. Pushed it home, took the BooBadge to the liquor store

Came back and Oi! had pissed varnish smelling gas all over the workshop floor. It'll get some proper attention this weekend, but jeez...
Lambretta ownership summed up in three sentences.

all kidding aside, a well sorted lammy is every bit as reliable as a vespa. it's just getting it to that point takes longer, more steps and more parts.

vespas are more forgiving in the "letting things slide" department where as a lammy will just straight up nope on out of there.

it's like having a chevy 350 vs. a mopar 340-- you could piss in the gas tank and take a dump in the carb and that old chevy will still light off and run, where as that thermoquad carb on the 340 requires attention if you look at it sideways. but boy howdy, when she runs! that'll flat git!
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Lambretta ownership summed up in three sentences.
ROFL emoticon

I think I'm speed-running Lammy ownership so far.

Carb rebuild kit is in the mail along with new tires. Assuming no need to visit the Shipping News thread, I should be in a reasonable place in a few days.
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all kidding aside, a well sorted lammy is every bit as reliable as a vespa. it's just getting it to that point takes longer, more steps and more parts.

vespas are more forgiving in the "letting things slide" department where as a lammy will just straight up nope on out of there.
From what little I've seen thus far, this all sounds about right. Most of it seems pretty straightforward, with some things being easier/better-designed and others worse. I want to get a better feel for the difference in how it rides--because it definitely has a different feel, and not just that it's slooooooow compared to all my other bikes.

I'm looking forward to getting into the motor at some point, but I still have plenty of Vespa tasks in the backlog, so no hurry there.
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the ride is more like a small frame. much more centered and balanced.

it's like the difference in ride between P and small frame is similar to the difference between small frame Lambretta.

they all push about the same though.
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they all push about the same though.
Lammies push about like P's. Smallie's push a lot more easily. Stella's are the hardest push of all.
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Finally found this stupid thing.

Been hunting for a better crank pin bearing, but it's an odd size: 28mm x36mm x13.8mm

Noticed when cleaning it that there was a weird good pattern on the crank shoulder without the oiling hole and nothing on the side with the oiling hole. Wonder if it was pressed together wrong.

EDIT: Finally cracked the code on this. Uses the same big end bearing as a Honda PCX/SH150i.

EDIT #2: Honda part 91101-KB4-671 will work too. Bearing is for late ATC125 and early TRX125.
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Li150 Series 3. All stock.
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Yesterday, I replaced the float needle and polished the needle seat. That fixed the incontinence issue. Still need to get a new fuel tap, but it's not the priority it was.

Today, I helped a friend put a Mugello 198 on his Special. Test riding made a pretty good case for some go-fast parts. Just sayin'.
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look at you all high line!

the Oi Special is just begging for some low rent zoom-zoom to match the aesthetic. Suzuki 190, 28/30 D slide, electronic with a lighter wheel, up the front sprocket and a shitty Indian big bore.

without the pipe it won't rev enough to kill itself, and with that set up it won't make enough power to self destruct. jet it fat and wind it tight, shift just as it starts to nose over.

if you build another motor on the side as the replacement when you finally break that one, it pretty much guarantees that it'll never go bang.
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look at you all high line!

the Oi Special is just begging for some low rent zoom-zoom to match the aesthetic. Suzuki 190, 28/30 D slide, electronic with a lighter wheel, up the front sprocket and a shitty Indian big bore.

without the pipe it won't rev enough to kill itself, and with that set up it won't make enough power to self destruct. jet it fat and wind it tight, shift just as it starts to nose over.

if you build another motor on the side as the replacement when you finally break that one, it pretty much guarantees that it'll never go bang.
My current build plan is Do Nothing Until Something Breaks.(Terms and conditions subject to change).

Now if something *were* to break, my eventual thinking is the Mugello, along with a PWK 28/30/34 (since those are what I have on the shelf right now), long stroke GP200 crank, Vape ignition, and a good sport box. Suitable clutch and cog to match.

So funny thing happened...Eley came over this afternoon and after a little bit of dicking around with bikes, we went for a ride and I took the Lammy. Great weather and a fun ride. When we stopped off so I could take an obligatory Last Chance Liquors picture, though, I was burning crankcase oil like you wouldn't believe.

We rode past a bus stop and Eley said that, "Even the crackheads and hobos at the bus stop were waving their hands at the stink."

So I guess Terms and Conditions have changed at least a little...
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ifin' it ain't blue, it ain't bueno.

maybe it's just a fly side and you can get away with a running repair. lol.

you sure you didn't just press the "smoke screen" button?

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ifin' it ain't blue, it ain't bueno.

maybe it's just a fly side and you can get away with a running repair. lol.

you sure you didn't just press the "smoke screen" button?

If it were fly side wouldn't it be an air leak and not an oil burner??
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If it were fly side wouldn't it be an air leak and not an oil burner??
oh derp. you right.

I'm batting 1000% today man. it's been one of those!
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ifin' it ain't blue, it ain't bueno.
Exactly.
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maybe it's just a fly side and you can get away with a running repair. lol.

you sure you didn't just press the "smoke screen" button?
That's called the "kickstart lever" on a Lammy.
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Exactly.

That's called the "kickstart lever" on a Lammy.
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The Mugello kit sounds like a sensible upgrade path.




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Yesterday I had a great run on brown smallie down to the beach & back, just as I had hoped, and reported same on Scooters Left the House thread. What I didn't mention is that as I crossed the road at the top, the dang thing just up and died on me. Crying or Very sad emoticon

Pushed into one of my nephew's nearby driveway, got a few tool and found no spark even w/ another plug. Our place is another long haul uphill, so I got the VW, tossed it in back and got it back home before dark.

This morning I was ready to pull the flywheel when I remembered that on these older smallies the blue wire from stator must find a ground thru brake switch or brake light bulb somehow, or no ignition circuit, the usual early Vespa electrical hocus pocus.
I cheated, didn't track down where the brake light circuit was messed up, I just tied that white wire to the blue wire connection and grounded it to the motor.

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I cheated, didn't track down where the brake light circuit was messed up, I just tied that white wire to the blue wire connection and grounded it to the motor. No brake light temporarily, but the little sweetheart started right up!
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ifin' it ain't blue, it ain't bueno.

maybe it's just a fly side and you can get away with a running repair. lol.

you sure you didn't just press the "smoke screen" button?

He pressed the "Mood Effects" button. Set for Urban Dystopia.

It must remain that way for purely esthetic reasons.
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I am imagining a stockpile of modern carbs on your shelf already, my bad
Someone say carb??

Was tidying up and taking stock count…
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^^^ That PHBL25 upper left, looks kinda puny in that crowd.
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Ok mate. I don't know who you are but how did you hack into Chandlerman's account??!!
The Chandlerman that I know would go for something with a little more... zing.
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I'm going for a more "gentlemanly" build, as befits a classy-looking bike like the Oi(L).

Looking at the spec's, the Quattrini really doesn't put out more power or torque than the Mugella and pretty much demands a tuned pipe rather than a box. I'll keep an eye on what Max is up to, though, and if he does a re-worked version (an "M-210-TVS"), I'm sure it'll be INSANE and then I'll probably be all over that.

Also, the Quattrini is almost twice the price of the Mugella (ditto an exhaust), so if I make any newb mistakes, I'm out a lot less coin on the first outing.
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Someone say carb??

Was tidying up and taking stock count…
LOL!

If I wind up wanting something I don't have on the shelf for the Oi, maybe we can work one of those carbs as a trade-in for the Boobadge's spare front disc setup.
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^^^ That PHBL25 upper left, looks kinda puny in that crowd.
Do you really need that thing? Eyelashes emoticon
It is tiny, but you never know when you'll need a small carb for a small cylinder… lol…

It's good to have as a reference… uses the same 5mm and 6mm jets… which is convenient.
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LOL!

If I wind up wanting something I don't have on the shelf for the Oi, maybe we can work one of those carbs as a trade-in for the Boobadge's spare front disc setup.
Definitely can! I'm good to do some trading!

You haven't seen the jets that come with these… lol
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Sooo....look what followed me home today...

A P200e popped up on Facebook marketplace in the East Nashville For Sale group this afternoon.

$600 later, it's mine. (not a typo: Six Hundred Smackaroos)

No title (but clean VIN), no spark, seriously bad gas in the tank, but the gearbox is good and it kicks over freely. Two worries are that while it's been indoors and/or covered, the plug was out of the cylinder and there's no oil in the autolube tank.

The blue is rattle can, but the frame is OG as they come and in amazing condition. Zero rust anywhere.

PO said it ran when he got it, but he's not a mechanic and has given up on it, so wants to get the space back in his garage. He had a couple of pretty nice motorcycles in an air conditioned garage, so I'm optimistic about the cylinder.

So how was your day?
It just jumped in the car.  What was I supposed to do???
It just jumped in the car. What was I supposed to do???
mmm...DoTD...
mmm...DoTD...
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