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I tried to take the Oi! Mobile to the liquor store and got a block from my house before the left side cowl fell off.
N/M guess those came later.
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chandlerman wrote: I tried to take the Oi! Mobile to the liquor store and got a block from my house before the left side cowl fell off. N/M guess those came later. |
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chandlerman wrote: I tried to take the Oi! Mobile to the liquor store and got a block from my house before the left side cowl fell off. Put it back on, kept going. Went another block and it died. Had gas, but wouldn't fire. Pushed it home, took the BooBadge to the liquor store Came back and Oi! had pissed varnish smelling gas all over the workshop floor. It'll get some proper attention this weekend, but jeez... |
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WestHamKam wrote: Guess that takes care of me wondering if the clip on panels stay on. ![]() the fundamental design seems okay, though. |
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chandlerman wrote: They do except when they don't. ![]() the fundamental design seems okay, though. |
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Tanks perfectly in position to drip over the hot cylinder! Might want to leave that one outside your garage
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chandlerman wrote: Today, I finally went to the Dark Side... Li150 Series 3. All stock. Started second kick after we unloaded it off the van. Other than new tires and some cable greasing, I'm riding it as-is for a bit to get the feel, then J.J. and I are going to Do Things to the motor. ![]()
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Whodat, that's the direction I'll eventually end up, I suspect, because...well...reasons.
For the moment, I just want to sort out the float and needle so it doesn't piss all over the workshop floor and get some safe tires on it. Once I get a little time with it, I'll figure out where I want to go next.
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chandlerman wrote: Whodat, that's the direction I'll eventually end up, I suspect, because...well...reasons. For the moment, I just want to sort out the float and needle so it doesn't piss all over the workshop floor and get some safe tires on it. Once I get a little time with it, I'll figure out where I want to go next. |
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whodatschrome wrote: Definitely take your time figuring out what and how you want it. I kept my 150 engine stock (well expect for an inexpensive 12v conversion) for at least a couple years before i made it go any faster. In fact i did body, paint, suspension, and brakes before i did any engine tuning. Seems like new performance kits are always being released, so it's not like you're loosing out on anything by jumping the gun in the moment. I got back out in the workshop last night and looked at everything, then came back and watched some basic maintenance videos. Simple stuff like removing and cleaning the carb, removing the front wheel. I'm amazed at how few options there are for things in the Lammy world. And they aren't kidding about spares costing twice as much, either. I think a big part of that is that it seems to be a low-volume business compared to Vespas, so they need more margin on each part to keep the lights on. I still find it strange that what I would have thought were pretty basic things, like an SH1/20 carb rebuild kit, are all backordered, so basically don't exist. Oh, well. How's that saying go..."We do this not because it is easy..." ![]()
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Many many people ditch the stock carbs because they are finicky. A basic modern carb might be right up your alley.
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sdjohn wrote: Many many people ditch the stock carbs because they are finicky. A basic modern carb might be right up your alley. |
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chandlerman wrote: For sure. I just don't want to buy a 20mm PWK only to turn around and ditch it in a few weeks if I start tuning this sucker. |
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sdjohn wrote: I am imagining a stockpile of modern carbs on your shelf already, my bad ![]() The smallest one I have is a PWK 28, and would be a bit much for a stock 150. It'd be literally impossible (physics!) to tune from off-idle to 1/4 throttle. |
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chandlerman wrote: There is, but none of them are little tiny modern carbs! ![]() The smallest one I have is a PWK 28, and would be a bit much for a stock 150. It'd be literally impossible (physics!) to tune from off-idle to 1/4 throttle. |
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I'm amazed at how few options there are for things in the Lammy world. And they aren't kidding about spares costing twice as much, either. I think a big part of that is that it seems to be a low-volume business compared to Vespas, so they need more margin on each part to keep the lights on.
I still find it strange that what I would have thought were pretty basic things, like an SH1/20 carb rebuild kit, are all backordered, so basically don't exist. Oh, well. How's that saying go..."We do this not because it is easy..." ![]() [/quote] Seems the wideframes have something in common with the Lammy set. Expensive, hard to get, backordered or unobtainable. My wife told me to never sell the GS. I do have a special relationship with this scoot and she's not even finished yet. Yep, for the love of it! |
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BajaRob wrote: Seems the wideframes have something in common with the Lammy set. Expensive, hard to get, backordered or unobtainable. My wife told me to never sell the GS. I do have a special relationship with this scoot and she's not even finished yet. Yep, for the love of it! |
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chandlerman wrote: I tried to take the Oi! Mobile to the liquor store and got a block from my house before the left side cowl fell off. Put it back on, kept going. Went another block and it died. Had gas, but wouldn't fire. Pushed it home, took the BooBadge to the liquor store Came back and Oi! had pissed varnish smelling gas all over the workshop floor. It'll get some proper attention this weekend, but jeez... all kidding aside, a well sorted lammy is every bit as reliable as a vespa. it's just getting it to that point takes longer, more steps and more parts. vespas are more forgiving in the "letting things slide" department where as a lammy will just straight up nope on out of there. it's like having a chevy 350 vs. a mopar 340-- you could piss in the gas tank and take a dump in the carb and that old chevy will still light off and run, where as that thermoquad carb on the 340 requires attention if you look at it sideways. but boy howdy, when she runs! that'll flat git! |
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greasy125 wrote: Lambretta ownership summed up in three sentences. ![]() I think I'm speed-running Lammy ownership so far. Carb rebuild kit is in the mail along with new tires. Assuming no need to visit the Shipping News thread, I should be in a reasonable place in a few days. greasy125 wrote: all kidding aside, a well sorted lammy is every bit as reliable as a vespa. it's just getting it to that point takes longer, more steps and more parts. vespas are more forgiving in the "letting things slide" department where as a lammy will just straight up nope on out of there. I'm looking forward to getting into the motor at some point, but I still have plenty of Vespa tasks in the backlog, so no hurry there. |
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the ride is more like a small frame. much more centered and balanced.
it's like the difference in ride between P and small frame is similar to the difference between small frame Lambretta. they all push about the same though.
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Finally found this stupid thing.
Been hunting for a better crank pin bearing, but it's an odd size: 28mm x36mm x13.8mm Noticed when cleaning it that there was a weird good pattern on the crank shoulder without the oiling hole and nothing on the side with the oiling hole. Wonder if it was pressed together wrong. EDIT: Finally cracked the code on this. Uses the same big end bearing as a Honda PCX/SH150i. EDIT #2: Honda part 91101-KB4-671 will work too. Bearing is for late ATC125 and early TRX125. ![]() 2013 Stella 4T crank. Only 167 miles on it. Its absence has stalled a rebuild for many years.
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![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Yesterday, I replaced the float needle and polished the needle seat. That fixed the incontinence issue. Still need to get a new fuel tap, but it's not the priority it was. Today, I helped a friend put a Mugello 198 on his Special. Test riding made a pretty good case for some go-fast parts. Just sayin'.
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look at you all high line!
the Oi Special is just begging for some low rent zoom-zoom to match the aesthetic. Suzuki 190, 28/30 D slide, electronic with a lighter wheel, up the front sprocket and a shitty Indian big bore. without the pipe it won't rev enough to kill itself, and with that set up it won't make enough power to self destruct. jet it fat and wind it tight, shift just as it starts to nose over. if you build another motor on the side as the replacement when you finally break that one, it pretty much guarantees that it'll never go bang. |
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greasy125 wrote: look at you all high line! the Oi Special is just begging for some low rent zoom-zoom to match the aesthetic. Suzuki 190, 28/30 D slide, electronic with a lighter wheel, up the front sprocket and a shitty Indian big bore. without the pipe it won't rev enough to kill itself, and with that set up it won't make enough power to self destruct. jet it fat and wind it tight, shift just as it starts to nose over. if you build another motor on the side as the replacement when you finally break that one, it pretty much guarantees that it'll never go bang. Now if something *were* to break, my eventual thinking is the Mugello, along with a PWK 28/30/34 (since those are what I have on the shelf right now), long stroke GP200 crank, Vape ignition, and a good sport box. Suitable clutch and cog to match. So funny thing happened...Eley came over this afternoon and after a little bit of dicking around with bikes, we went for a ride and I took the Lammy. Great weather and a fun ride. When we stopped off so I could take an obligatory Last Chance Liquors picture, though, I was burning crankcase oil like you wouldn't believe. We rode past a bus stop and Eley said that, "Even the crackheads and hobos at the bus stop were waving their hands at the stink." So I guess Terms and Conditions have changed at least a little... ![]() Oi! No smoking 'round here!
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ifin' it ain't blue, it ain't bueno.
maybe it's just a fly side and you can get away with a running repair. lol. you sure you didn't just press the "smoke screen" button? |
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greasy125 wrote: ifin' it ain't blue, it ain't bueno. maybe it's just a fly side and you can get away with a running repair. lol. you sure you didn't just press the "smoke screen" button? |
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sdjohn wrote: If it were fly side wouldn't it be an air leak and not an oil burner?? I'm batting 1000% today man. it's been one of those! |
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greasy125 wrote: ifin' it ain't blue, it ain't bueno. greasy125 wrote: maybe it's just a fly side and you can get away with a running repair. lol. you sure you didn't just press the "smoke screen" button?
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chandlerman wrote: Exactly. That's called the "kickstart lever" on a Lammy. ![]() ![]() ![]() The Mugello kit sounds like a sensible upgrade path. fcv Ok mate. I don't know who you are but how did you hack into Chandlerman's account??!! The Chandlerman that I know would go for something with a little more... zing. ![]() |
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Yesterday I had a great run on brown smallie down to the beach & back, just as I had hoped, and reported same on Scooters Left the House thread. What I didn't mention is that as I crossed the road at the top, the dang thing just up and died on me.
![]() Pushed into one of my nephew's nearby driveway, got a few tool and found no spark even w/ another plug. Our place is another long haul uphill, so I got the VW, tossed it in back and got it back home before dark. This morning I was ready to pull the flywheel when I remembered that on these older smallies the blue wire from stator must find a ground thru brake switch or brake light bulb somehow, or no ignition circuit, the usual early Vespa electrical hocus pocus. ![]() I cheated, didn't track down where the brake light circuit was messed up, I just tied that white wire to the blue wire connection and grounded it to the motor.
No brake light temporarily, but the little sweetheart started right up!
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greasy125 wrote: ifin' it ain't blue, it ain't bueno. maybe it's just a fly side and you can get away with a running repair. lol. you sure you didn't just press the "smoke screen" button? It must remain that way for purely esthetic reasons. |
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sdjohn wrote: I am imagining a stockpile of modern carbs on your shelf already, my bad Was tidying up and taking stock count… ![]()
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^^^ That PHBL25 upper left, looks kinda puny in that crowd.
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Ginch wrote: Ok mate. I don't know who you are but how did you hack into Chandlerman's account??!! The Chandlerman that I know would go for something with a little more... zing. ![]() I'm going for a more "gentlemanly" build, as befits a classy-looking bike like the Oi(L). Looking at the spec's, the Quattrini really doesn't put out more power or torque than the Mugella and pretty much demands a tuned pipe rather than a box. I'll keep an eye on what Max is up to, though, and if he does a re-worked version (an "M-210-TVS"), I'm sure it'll be INSANE and then I'll probably be all over that. Also, the Quattrini is almost twice the price of the Mugella (ditto an exhaust), so if I make any newb mistakes, I'm out a lot less coin on the first outing. 108 wrote: Someone say carb?? Was tidying up and taking stock count… If I wind up wanting something I don't have on the shelf for the Oi, maybe we can work one of those carbs as a trade-in for the Boobadge's spare front disc setup. |
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V oodoo wrote: ^^^ That PHBL25 upper left, looks kinda puny in that crowd. Do you really need that thing? ![]() It's good to have as a reference… uses the same 5mm and 6mm jets… which is convenient. |
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chandlerman wrote: LOL! If I wind up wanting something I don't have on the shelf for the Oi, maybe we can work one of those carbs as a trade-in for the Boobadge's spare front disc setup. You haven't seen the jets that come with these… lol |
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Sooo....look what followed me home today...
A P200e popped up on Facebook marketplace in the East Nashville For Sale group this afternoon. $600 later, it's mine. (not a typo: Six Hundred Smackaroos) No title (but clean VIN), no spark, seriously bad gas in the tank, but the gearbox is good and it kicks over freely. Two worries are that while it's been indoors and/or covered, the plug was out of the cylinder and there's no oil in the autolube tank. The blue is rattle can, but the frame is OG as they come and in amazing condition. Zero rust anywhere. PO said it ran when he got it, but he's not a mechanic and has given up on it, so wants to get the space back in his garage. He had a couple of pretty nice motorcycles in an air conditioned garage, so I'm optimistic about the cylinder. So how was your day? ![]() It just jumped in the car. What was I supposed to do???
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